Friday, August 21, 2015

San Pasqual Band Allan Lawson, YOUR IRONY IS SHOWING in this PSA

Here's a 2010 PSA with current chairman of the San Pasqual Band of Imposters Indians.   Listen to what he says at the start.

"We have always been undercounted"  and "We've never been able to receive the benefits we should receive as Native Americans"

THIS from a man who undercounts  his OWN tribe.  And from a man who keeps RIGHTFUL SAN PASQUAL natives from their own deserved benefits.



95 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is that guy the fake guy?

Anonymous said...

He is too busy stealing what IS for the true San Pasqual!
Yes, that is the fake guy!

Anonymous said...

Things you don't understand.
1. San Pasqual is part of the Kumeyaay Tribe
2. San Pasqual is one of many villages of the Kumeyaay tribe including Viejas, Sycuan, Borona, Campo and other villages extending into Mexico.
3.These Kumeyaay villages intermarried extensively, especially at fiestas, that is why you will find the same last name at numerous reservations.
4. Chairman Allen Lawson is being attacked for Original Pechangas gain of media attention.
5. San Pasquals reputation is being tarnished by non tribal members who seek membership and are upset because their own parents won't enroll them.
6. If San Pasqual lowered the blood quantum many applicants would get membership.
7. Applicants are fighting to change blood of a descendant from 1850.
8. BIA will not change the blood of someone before 1910. It is at the BIA's discretion and they will not change blood prior to any government agreements with the USA.
9. Original Pechanga has half assed facts and only seek to cause disruption of San Pasqual Government and has no solution besides gaining media attention to self serve his main focus of disenrollment when enrollment nor disenrollment occurred to the applicants.
10. The BIA did not enroll applicants.
11. San Pasqual has given the authority of enrollment to the BIA.
11. Good luck

Anonymous said...

Original Pechanga has half assed facts and only seek to cause disruption of San Pasqual Government (really)?

Anonymous said...

I haven't read one thing that shows the Lawson or Tolers stance on issues. All I see is Original Pechanga portraying Alexandra McIntosh's views. She must be paying Original Pechanga to write Shit because we have seen zero facts of the enrollment within the 15 plus articles that Original Pechanga has posted.

Anonymous said...

It's funny how Original Pechanga thinks the LaChappa/Trasks just fell out of the sky. La Chappas have been in San Pasqual valley for hundreds and hundreds of years. Check out the Spanish Mission archives. Shows 1837 LaChappas living in the San Pasqual Valley. CMON Original Pechanga, why don't you try to research the bullshit you put up. Probably too lazy.

Anonymous said...

I have heard of the La Chappas at borona (been around east county forever)...I will say that.

Anonymous said...

Lawson is not Lachappa fill me in ? I am an outsider?

Anonymous said...

HOW DARE OP impugn the HONOR of the Lawson family and disparage the history of the Trasks...

Anonymous said...

I am not OP ,are you guys saying you are Lachappa's ?

Anonymous said...

The LAchappa's are Indians and have members at sycuan,borona and I think Viejas.

Anonymous said...

LaChappas are on many Kumeyaay villages of the Kumeyaay Nation. Including San Pasqual, Mesa Grande, Santa Ysabel, Sycuan, Viejas and Borona. And yes the Lawsons are La Chappas, related through our Grandmother side.

Anonymous said...

Oh, If you guy's are picking a bone with the Lachappa's good luck!!!

I think there's a Lachappa on the council at Borona?

Anonymous said...

2 members on Barona Lachappa council Head chairman Clifford Lachappa.

Anonymous said...

Reztalk says LaChappas aren't indians. That guy must have lived his whole life under a rock. Original Pechanga goes along with it. Pretty ignorant people.

Anonymous said...

No matter what they say, the Trask family is not blood of San Pasqual Kumeyaay Band.

Anonymous said...

Reztalk ? are they the BIA? Go tell the Lachappa's on the Barona council their not Indian?

In the spirit of Toypurina said...

True. La Chappa's are in historical records, Mesa Grande, Capitan, Etc. But La Chappa (Trasks) are NOT La Chappa's. They are Yanke's. Jose Antonio La Chappa's mother was NOT Angela La Chappa from Mesa Grande. And the only reason Jose Antonio La Chappa was recorded as a full blood was because of the 1928 census that was recorded in the 1928 blanket application NO. 10645. In fact, his parents are unknown. Feliciana La Chappa (Yanke) was a "Mexican Indian" from Baja California and Mesa Grande records will show that. So no, the Trasks are not Mesa Grande or San Pasqual.

Anonymous said...

We hereby formally challenge and debate the enrollment of all descendants of Frank Trask and Lenora Lachappa Trask, Helen Ella Trask, and Florence Wolfe Trask, that they do not possess at least one eight blood of the band of the San Pasqual Indian Tribe, and therefore do not meet the requirements for enrollment with the San Pasqual Band of Mission Indians. The historical documents provided include erroneous evidence within the June 7, 1965 enrollment of the Trask family that was consider eligible and determined to be members of the band by the area director of the bureau Indian affairs. The area director in 1965 determined that the applicants filed by the Trask family descendants were determined to be eligible for Enrollment with the San pasqual band of Mission Indians against the recommendations of the enrollment committee is because the Area director acknowledged that since the Trask family were not of the blood of the band of san pasqual and that they could not qualify for enrollment under subsections A, B or C of 25 CFR 48.5, the Area director would have to place a construction on the language of the regulations governing the preparation of the membership roll of the San Pasqual Band, because the Trask family did not qualify for enrollment under 48.5, Furthermore the area director accepted respective amounts of other Indian blood of tribes other than San Pasqual so that the Indian blood they possessed by such persons as of 1910 may be included in the computation of the total amount of their Indian blood as if it is that of blood of the band of San Pasqual Indian blood.. With this interpretation the children of Miss Ward and miss Wolf could qualify for enrollment with the San Pasqual band because they only deprive other Indian blood from another tribe from their mother Leanora Lachappa who was a fullblooded Diegenuo Mesa Grande Indian Woman. The evidence was also not reviewed or evaluated by the bureau of Indian affairs, but it demonstrates, unequivocally, that they original inclusion of these individuals on the tribes 1966 base roll over the objections of the tribe was clearly erroneous, and that the solicitor acting on behalf of the assistant secretary of Interior exceeded the scope of his authority by incorrectly interpreting and applying the provisions of section 48 and that the tribes Constitution as adopted and approved in doing so the solicitors opinionated and violated tribal law when he determined that anyone whether from San Pasqual or not, as long as they possessed Native American blood regardless from what tribe it was deprived that it was sufficient to satisfy the requirements... This interpretation was erroneous then as it is now because it violates federal statutes and the bands Constitution.. If the ancestors do not qualify for inclusion with the band the descendants cannot qualify for enrollment and their names must be stricken from the roll.

Anonymous said...

Good job Anonymous 2:00. Can you now give us the breakdown of the Martinez family or you too scared to talk about that?

O Pechanga said...

Why doesn't Anonymous 2:06 give the breakdown...

Anonymous said...

Trasks are related to the LaChappas and the Guachenas. If you dont know someones history and you keep guessing you should probably go back to high school. If you dont know your own family how do you know others so well. You don't. Wait till all the stuff with the Martinez family comes out. Alexandra McIntosh will probably drop you when she finds out the truth. Tell her. Stop lying to her.

Anonymous said...

The lachappas are Indian, but they are not San Pasqual Indians.

Anonymous said...

I will tell the barona council that the Lachappas Are not San Pasqual Indians.

Anonymous said...

The Martinez Family is Sueing the chairman of San Pasqual. Its going to be interesting to see a chairman sued and can't hide or be protected by the sovereignty of the band because he acted out of the scope of his authority...

Anonymous said...

The tolers trask's and Lawson's don't come from the guachenas, and I know the Trask history very well. High school don't teach you about The traditions of San Pasqual nor does it teach you about the history of my people.... White man school doesn't teach me anything about my people, Your elders teach you what the ancestors taught them and it's pasted from generation to generation.. Yes just wait until federal court and yes all the stuff will come out about what the chairman did to the Martinez family. Alexandra will always be apart of the fight because she knows the truth and will continue to fight as long as there is the truth is told. She has 100,000 documents that prove that I ain't lying to her and there is 100,000 documents online at Reztalk the truth because their isn't anyone out their that can debate my truth with lies.

Anonymous said...

Mr.Lawson don't look like no yankee or white man?

Look at the pechanga council jajajaaja.

Anonymous said...

"Passed not pasted." And you don't have 100,000 documents online, that's a blatant lie. Trying to tell the truth with a lie doesn't help your cause. La Chappas were in San Pasqual valley all throughout the 1800's. Guachenas are also San Pasqual Indians. It's all documented. So do not say they are not from San Pasqual. Maybe you need to research prior to 1978. Good luck in Federal court.

Anonymous said...

You are ass backwards with your information

Anonymous said...

I meant the breakdown of what the dispute is about?

Anonymous said...

High School teaches you how to use the right word in a sentence.

Anonymous said...

Didn't judge irma gonzalez settle this matter?

In the spirit of Toypurina said...

You will see the truth in just a couple days.

Anonymous said...

What will happen ? Court hearing ?

Anonymous said...

The Trasks and LaChappas were carried on the rolls of Mesa Grande. When the Original San Pasqual refused to move away from their homeland the BIA offered allotments to these families even though they were not members of the San Pasqual Band. Many of the San Pasqual people didn't even know they had an alternate reservation due to the misfiling of the BIA. They stayed in the Escondido and San Pasqual Valley region until the BIA finally let the San Pasqual people know that they did in fact have Reservation. Check out the census rolls from 1900 to 1950 and see the ups and downs in the population count. How do you go from 100 plus people to just 3 people as the population count for a reservation? The real problem is that the BIA allotted/gave away the best land to the Trasks and the LaChappas. Show me a Trask grave or a LaChappa grave at the old San Pasqual cemetery and I will shut my mouth. I have no stake in this matter but I do know what I know.

Anonymous said...

Someone from the Lawson family answer why you have no family buried at the gravesite?

Anonymous said...

Their is only 1 truth to all that live. Their can be many beliefs but only 1 truth. A liar believes his lies and a honest man knows the truth. Which are you?

Anonymous said...

The LaChappas were West of the actual San Pasqual village and there are Maps from 1870's to prove were they resided. They LaChappas are also related to the Lachusas and I'm sorry to tell you but there are ancestors buried on the west of Mule Hill. We are not in court and don't planning on being anytime in the future. You can say what you must but we are enrolled and you are not. Good luck with your court proceedings and enrollment. You saying that Lachappas are not Indians is just plain stupid.

Native Diamond said...

Save the Drama for your Mama~ the "TRASKS ARE NOT BLOOD OF THE BAND AS OUR CONSTITUTION STATES~ "PERIOD".. So Yall.. Lawson "TRASKS" LA CHAPPA" ~ SYMPATHIZERS'..., Quit Trying to Milk a bull, THEY ARE NOT BLOOD OF THE BAND...."Your justifying LIES and Corrupted folks. The world knows they are not blood of the BAND...and My granddaddy SANTIAGO MARTINEZ was FULL SAN PASQUAL. And so was His Wife ISABEL DURO. Then they had children who were full royal bloods". Those who ARE "blood of the Band knows Who these full bloods are, and what The GOV gave them...If your not Blood of the band you wouldn't know..'Unless!~ your up onthe san pasqual Game on thee 'Reztalk form"...and keeping watch on the Royal Genealogy of Modesta Martinez blood line. So yall.. Drama seekers suck The diamond nuts.

Anonymous said...

There are La Chappa's from Barona and other reservations. Dave Toler and Allen Lawson descendant from primarily white Ohio farmers who came to the San Pasqual valley, burned the San Pasqual our of their village and stole their land - Washburn and Trask. Their native blood is less than 1/16th Mesa Grande. Allen, from his mother, is also Pit River and Miwok. Dave Toler and Allen Lawson and their disgraceful spawn do not belong enrolled in San Pasqual. Allen Lawson's brother, when given the change to be enrolled in San Pasqual, properly refused and is enrolled in Mesa Grande tribe.

Jose Juan Martinez, however, was a full blood San Pasqual. Allen Lawson and Dave Toler have made up lies and actively worked to keep out the true San Pasqual from their tribe, because if the true San Pasqual descendants were enrolled, then they would lose their corrupt power and be disenrolled because they do not qualify for enrollment under 25 CFR 48.5. . . . right along with their drinking buddies, the Alto's. Those are the facts. Allen Lawson, Dave Toler and their families have wrongfully perpetuated a myth that Jose Juan was a Sonora Indian. The documents they assert show this fact are a joke. There is absolute proof that Jose Juan was a little boy in the San Pasqual village and the Mexican by the same name they point to was a 40 year old man living in Northern California. They also claim that they have documents to show that Santiago, Jose Juan's father, was born at the San Pasqual village, but his mother was from another tribe (yes, an Indian) and his father was Mexican. Wow, that is amazing Toler, except for one thing, Santiago was not born in the 1830's AND under your scenario, that Jose Juan Martinez descendants possess a higher blood quantum than the 1/16th you label them with.

At the end of the day, the Trask family, from whom Dave Toler and Allen Lawson descend were white from Ohio. Mattiana Martha Trask Washburn Frank Trask's mother was a Mexican. Feliciana LaChappa, Lenora LaChappa's mother was a Mexican, not a Mesa Grande Indian. None of your blood line is San Pasqual. Frank Trask and Lenora LaChappa were hired to be caretakers of the San Pasqual land and from the beginning were diligent in keeping the San Pasqual from their land from the start. There is correspondence as early as 1916 that the San Pasqual wanted on their land. Your family prevented them from 1910 and to this very day. In 1955, when it was brought to light that your family, primarily Florence Trask Fisher, Stewart Wolfe was actively keeping the San Pasqual from their land, Leonard Hill of the BIA testified they agency knew that the San Pasqual were being kept off of the land by your family. You all, Trask descendants, seemed to have been brought up with the 1870 white man's mentality that you can steal from the Indians and keep them subjugated to you. You can't any longer because Indian Country has learned and continues to learn about you and the horrible people that you are. The history you spew is a lie.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous August 22, 2015 at 7:38 AM said...a white man by the name of Dave Toler . . . . .There are things that the Natives you don't understand. . . .

1. San Pasqual is part of the Kumeyaay Tribe THEN WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE NAME TO DIEGUENO? BECAUSE YOU ARE MESA GRANDE DIEGUENO AND NOT SAN PASQUAL KUMEYAAY.

2. San Pasqual is one of many villages of the Kumeyaay tribe including Viejas, Sycuan, Borona, Campo and other villages extending into Mexico. YEAH, AND ??? DOESN'T MAKE MESA GRANDE KUMEYAAY DOES IT!

3.These Kumeyaay villages intermarried extensively, especially at fiestas, that is why you will find the same last name at numerous reservations. NOT AT SAN PASQUAL. BY THE WAY TOLER, WHAT WERE THE SAN PASQUAL KNOWN FOR DURING THE 1800'S? WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THE SAN PASQUAL FIESTA? WHAT DID THE SAN PASQUAL DO AT THEIR FIESTAS?

4. Chairman Allen Lawson is being attacked for Original Pechangas gain of media attention. HAHAHAHAHA! FIRST OF ALL ALLEN LAWSON IS NOT BEING ATTACKED, AS A TRASK, HE IS BEING EXPOSED. SECOND, ORIGINAL PECHANGA BLOG HAS BEEN EXPOSING CORRUPTION IN INDIAN COUNTRY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND ALLEN LAWSON IS JUST ANOTHER CORRUPT SPOKESMAN, SO DON'T FLATTER YOURSELF.

5. San Pasquals reputation is being tarnished by non tribal members who seek membership and are upset because their own parents won't enroll them. NOW, THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE. THE TRASK FAMILY HAS ALWAYS HAD A BAD REPUTATION, THEIR ARE LIARS, THEY LIE ABOUT THEIR BLOOD LINE AND THE BLOOD LINE OF OTHERS, THEY ARE THIEVES, FROM DAY ONE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO STEAL THE SAN PASQUAL LAND FROM THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, FROM DAY ONE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PREVENT THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS FROM FLOURISHING AND LIVING IN PEACE, FROM DAY ONE, THEY HAVE BEEN STEALING $ FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE TO INDIANS, AND TODAY THEY STEAL MONEY FROM THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBAL GOVERNMENT. NOW IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS, THEY WERE ENROLLED IN 2005. THEIR PARENTS WON'T ENROLL THEM, YOU ARE SMOKING CRACK, TOLER.

6. If San Pasqual lowered the blood quantum many applicants would get membership. YES, THIS IS TRUE, BUT YOU STILL WOULD NOT BE IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T POSSESS SAN PASQUAL BLOOD.

7. Applicants are fighting to change blood of a descendant from 1850.
WELL, AT LEAST YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH HERE, A SAN PASQUAL INDIAN FROM THE 1850'S.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous August 22, 2015 at 7:38 AM said...a white man by the name of Dave Toler . . . . .There are things that the Natives you don't understand. . CONTINUED

8. BIA will not change the blood of someone before 1910. It is at the BIA's discretion and they will not change blood prior to any government agreements with the USA. WELL, GUESS WHAT WASHESHU, CALIFORNIA BECAME A STATE ON SEPTMBER 9, 1850 . . . . JOSE JUAN WAS BORN AUGUST 1853.

9. Original Pechanga has half assed facts and only seek to cause disruption of San Pasqual Government and has no solution besides gaining media attention to self serve his main focus of disenrollment when enrollment nor disenrollment occurred to the applicants. HAHAHA!
WHAT A JOKE WASHESHU. THERE IS A SOLUTION AND THAT IS WHAT THE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS ARE WORKING TOWARD THEIR TRIBAL RECOGNITION. REALLY, NO ENROLLMENT. THAT IS A LIE. THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS HAVE THEIR LETTERS OF ENROLLMENT.

10. The BIA did not enroll applicants. THE BIA IS NOT FINISHED WITH THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCEDANTS. THE BIA DID NOT FOLLOW THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE WITH RESPECT TO THE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS.

11. San Pasqual has given the authority of enrollment to the BIA. YES, AND THE LAW GIVES THE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS THE RIGHT TO SUE THE BIA.

11. Good luck THAT YOU, YOU WILL NEED IT.

SO THAT NO ONE IN INDIAN COUNTRY FORGETS, ALLEN LAWSON, CHERYL CALAC, DAVE TOLDER AND EACH AND EVERY TRASK DESCENDANT ARE PRIMARILY WHITE PEOPLE WITH VERY LITTLE MESA GRANDE BLOOD. SINCE 1910 THEY HAVE TRIED TO STEAL THE LAND, THE HERITAGE AND RESOURCES, ETC FROM THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. THEY DO NOT BELONG. THEY ARE CORRUPT. THEY ARE THIVES AND THEY ARE LIARS. HEY, DID INDIAN COUNTRY HEAR ABOUT THE $ AUDIT GOING ON AT SAN PASQUAL? SHOWS THEFT AND CORRUPTION. HEY, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT RICHARD MECKES? IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. WE HAVE WAITED THIS LONG, WE CAN STAND BACK AND WATCH JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER. JUSTICE WILL BE DONE.

Anonymous said...

August 22, 2015 at 10:24 AM

It's funny how Original Pechanga thinks the LaChappa/Trasks just fell out of the sky. La Chappas have been in San Pasqual valley for hundreds and hundreds of years. Check out the Spanish Mission archives. Shows 1837 LaChappas living in the San Pasqual Valley. CMON Original Pechanga, why don't you try to research the bullshit you put up. WELL HERE ARE THE FACTS YOU TRASK, ROSEWELL TRASK, AS WHITE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW, CAME FROM STRONGSVILLE OHIO. HE WAS NOT AN INDIAN. HE DIDN'T FALL OUT OF THE SKY, HE CAME ACROSS COUNTRY TO STEAL FROM THE INDIANS. MATTIANA MARTHA WARNER TRASK WASHBURN, HIS FIRST WIFE, WAS A MEXICAN. NOW AS FAR AS LENORA LACHAPPA, FRNAK TRASK'S WIFE, SHE WAS ONE HALF MESA GRANDE. HER MOTHER, FELICIANA WAS A MEXICAN. YES, THERE ARE LA CHAPPA'S THAT ARE MISSION INDIANS, BUT THERE ARE NO LACHAPPA'S THAT WERE OR ARE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AUGUST 22, AT 10:24 A.M.?


Anonymous said...

To August 22 at 12:01 PM

"HOW DARE OP impugn the HONOR of the Lawson family and disparage the history of the Trasks..."

HOW DARE YOU WRITE SUCH A G^@ D&$! THING. HOW DARE WE IMPUGN THE HONOR OF THE LAWSON'S? HOW DARE YOU WRITE SUCH A THING. THE TRASK FAMILY WERE AND ARE THIEVES. THEY DISHONOR INDIAN COUNTRY BY THEIR PRESENCE. THEY DISHONOR EVERY TRUE SAN PASQUAL BY THEIR PRESENCE. THEY DISHONOR THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL BY THEIR THEFT. THEY DISHONOR THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS BY THEIR LIES. THE LAWSON FAMILY, THAT DESCEND FROM A WHITE OHIO FARMER . .. AND IT WAS THAT WHITE FARMERS SON, BY A MEXICAN WOMAN, THAT TRIED TO FOLLOW IN HIS FATHER AND STEP FATHER'S WAYS BY STEALING FROM THE INDIANS. MAY THE GOD'S OF THE INTERNET BE SURE THEIR TRUE STORY GETS OUT FOR ALL ETERNITY! IMPUGN THEIR HONOR, WHAT A JOKE. THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO HONOR . . . WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALLEN'S BROTHER WHO PROPERLY ENROLLED IN MESA GRANDE! NOW, HE SHOULD BE HONORED.

Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 12:57 PM

"LaChappas are on many Kumeyaay villages of the Kumeyaay Nation. Including San Pasqual, Mesa Grande, Santa Ysabel, Sycuan, Viejas and Borona. And yes the Lawsons are La Chappas, related through our Grandmother side."

THERE YOU GO AGAIN, PERPETUATING LIES. THERE WERE NO LACHAPPA'S AT SAN PASQUAL PRIOR TO 1910. SO GLAD YOU ADMIT TO BEING LACHAPPA THROUGH GRANDMOTHER, GREAT GRANDMOTHER FELICIANA WAS A MEXICAN. LENORA LACHAPPA, WHO MARRIED FRANK TRASK, A WHITE MAN WHOSE FATHER CAME FROM OHIO, WAS ONLY 1/2 MESA GRANDE DIEGUENO, NOT KUMEYAAY. DAVE TOLER, ALLEN LAWSON, CHERYL CALAC, AND EACH AND EVERY TRASK DESCENDANTS ARE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, AND WHAT LITTLE MESA GRANDE BLOOD THEY HAVE, IS NOT ENOUGH TO BE ENROLLED.





Anonymous said...

TO AUGUST 22 AT 1:29 P.M.

"Reztalk says LaChappas aren't indians. That guy must have lived his whole life under a rock. Original Pechanga goes along with it. Pretty ignorant people."

LIES MORE LIES! TO BE CLEAR, REZTALK NEVER SAID THAT LACHAPPAS WERE NOT INDIANS. REZTALK HAS PROPERLY STATED AND SHOWN THAT THE TRASK FAMILY AND THEIR DESCENDANTS ARE NOT INDIANS. ROSEWELL TRASK WAS A WHITE MAN FROM OHIO. HE MARRIED MATTIANA MARTHA WARNER TRASK WASHBURN, WHO SPAWN THE CRIMINALS FRANK AND HENRY TRASK. FRANK TRASK MARRIED A HALF BLOOD MESA GRANDE DIEGUENO INDIAN NAMED LENORA LACHAPPA. THEY SPAWNED TWO CRIMINALS, WHO BEGAT MORE CRIMINALS, AND SO ONE AND SO ON. ORIGINAL PECHANGA BLOG, LIKE REZTALK, IS EXPOSING THE TRUTH!


Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM

Good job Anonymous 2:00. Can you now give us the breakdown of the Martinez family or you too scared to talk about that?

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? SANTIAGO MARTINEZ WAS A FULL BLOOD SAN PASQUAL AND HE AND ISABEL, A FULL BLOOD SAN PASQUAL, WERE THE PARENTS OF JOSE JUAN. JOSE JUAN WAS BORN AT THE ORIGINAL SAN PASQUAL VILLAGE IN AUGUST 1853. HE MARRIED GUADALUPE, FULL BLOOD SAN PASQUAL, THE DAUGHTER OF MIGUEL AND JULIANA. THEY HAD MANY CHILDREN BUT UNFORTUNATELY MANY DID NOT SURVIVE. THEIR CHILDREN JOSE DOLORES, CLEOTILDA, GEORGE AND MODESTA ARE THE ANCESTORS TO TODAY'S TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO KNOW?


Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 2:15 PM

"Trasks are related to the LaChappas and the Guachenas. If you dont know someones history and you keep guessing you should probably go back to high school. If you dont know your own family how do you know others so well. You don't. Wait till all the stuff with the Martinez family comes out. Alexandra McIntosh will probably drop you when she finds out the truth. Tell her. Stop lying to her. "

THE TRASKS DESCEND FROM THE WHITE MAN ROSEWELL TRASK AND HIS FIRST WIFE, A MEXICAN NAMED MATIANNA MARTHA WARNER TRASK WASHBURN. WE ALL KNOW THE TRASK FAMILY HISTORY. KNOW AS FAR AS THE MARTINEZ FAMILY, WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW? THAT SANTIAGO WAS THE SON OF AN INDIAN AND A MEXICAN? PROVE IT. IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW? SOME ON TELL US THE BIG SECRET THAT EVERYONE IS KEEPING FROM ALEXANDRA! NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THE TRASKS ARE NOT INDIANS AND DO NOT BELONG AT SAN PASQUAL. THEY ARE LIARS AND THIEVES, THAT IS THE TRUEH.


Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 3:26 PM

"Mr.Lawson don't look like no yankee or white man? Look at the pechanga council jajajaaja."

LAWSON, HIS SISTER, CHERYL CALAC, HAVE A LITTLE MORE NATIVE BLOOD THAT THEIR COUSIN DAVE TOLER AND HIS SPAWN. ALLEN LAWSON SENIOR, WAS THE SON OF HELEN TRASK AND THEOPHILIUS MCKINNON. WHEN HE WAS 18, HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO THAT OF HIS STEP FATHER, LAWSON. HE CHANGED HIS NAME FROM THEOPHILUS ADDISON MCKINNON III TO ALLEN ERNEST LAWSON. WHILE HE WAS AT THE SHERMAN INDIAN SCHOOL, HE RAN OFF WITH LENA MONTEST, WHO WAS A PITRIVER AND MIWOK INDIAN. SO ALLEN AND CHERYL ARE A LITTLE MESA GRANDE, A LITTLE PIT RIVER AND A LITTLE MIWOK. CERTAINLY NOT SAN PASQUAL. DAVE TOLER IS A WHITE MAN THROUGH AND THROUGH. HIS MOTHER IS AUDREY AND SHE MARRIED A WHITE MAN AND HE IS A WHITE MAN WITH A LITTLE TEENIE TINY BIT OF MESA GRANDE DIEGUENO INDIAN. HE HAS NO SAN PASQUAL KUMEYAAY BLOOD AT ALL!!!!


Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM

"La Chappas were in San Pasqual valley all throughout the 1800's. Guachenas are also San Pasqual Indians. It's all documented. So do not say they are not from San Pasqual. Maybe you need to research prior to 1978. Good luck in Federal court."

WELL, HOW ABOUT 100,000 PAGES . . . NEITHER THE LACHAPPA'S OR THE GUACHENAS WERE SAN PASQUAL. TODAY NONE OF THEIR SPAWN ARE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS EITHER. OH, BELIEVE ME WE HAVE RESEARCHED. HAVE YOU SEEN THE TRASK GENEAOLOGY POSTED ON SQUIBBED? IF NOT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU A COPY. THANK YOU, IN COURT ALL OF YOUR HISTORY WILL BE EXPOSED. IN FACT, IT IS NOW ON THE INTERNET FOR ALL ETERNITY AND SOON IT WILL BE IN COURT FOR THE PUBLIC TO READ. AND, BETTER YET, ONCE WE GET TO COURT, IT WILL BE ALL OVER THE MEDIA, TOO. HAVE A NICE DAY WASHESHU.


Anonymous said...

1 Kumeyaay means those that live near the cliff. That's it san Pasqual are those original Indians from San Diego misssion. Papers from Harringting

2. No such thing as Viejas or barona it was el capitan once it was taken from them for a dam it became these reservations which are La chappas.

3. That is very true we do not however follow matriarch the woman take the clan all documents shown frank Trask white

4. No he is speaking the truth. Facts are facts

5. True but unfortunately half tribe is not from San Pasqual even all parents wanted to enroll us they don't have the vote. The Trask sit on our business committes and enrollment. They block everything with votes because they have majority and hide behind sovereignty.

6. Lower the blood we have time to wait all you will pass in the next 30 Years your children s fate will be left to us it's all good

7. That's right we are. The BIA has digitized all documents now and it changes everything. We are kumeyaay meaning those who live near the coast. Ipai is how we say people we traveled from the coast to Yuma. All written and told by our pat chiefs.

8. That's good they will not honor past 1910 unless they have an agreement well guest what we do have an agreement past 1910 for our land from the president thank you for your support

9. These are all facts that why it hurts. Your chief from Mesa grade would be very disappointed in you Allen. All he wanted for his people were land and if you had beans you shared it if we didn't we starved together.

10. Our tribe did and our enrollment. You Allen kept our notice from us and the bIA did not send it to us. The court will show this and you will need to stand on the stand and lie

11. Yes this is where you screwed up. Great for us

12. Thank you

Anonymous said...

TO August 22, 2015 at 3:39 PM

"I meant the breakdown of what the dispute is about?" I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED. HAPPY TO EXPLAIN.

THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS WERE SUCCESSFUL FARMERS, WITH LAND AND ANIMALS AND CROPS. THEY WERE KNOWN THROUGHOUT INDIAN COUNTRY FOR THEIR GREAT FIESTA EACH YEAR. IN THE 1870'S THEY WERE BURNED OUT OF THEIR VILLAGE AND THEIR LAND WAS STOLEN FROM THEM. THEY LIVED AROUND THEIR ORIGINAL VILLAGE AFTER THAT AND WERE THE VERY LAST CALIFORNIA INDIAN TRIBE TO RECEIVE LAND FOR THEIR RESERVATION, THAT WAS IN 1910. INITIALLY THE PROUD AND SUCCESSFUL SAN PASQUAL INDIANS REFUSED TO GO ON TO THE CRAP LAND THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THEM BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ROCKS, HAD NO WATER, AND WOULD ONLY SUSTAIN ONE OR TWO FAMILIES. HOWEVER, AS EARLY AS 1916 THEY TRIED TO GET ON TO THEIR TRUST PATENTED LAND AND IT WAS NOT UNTIL 1955 IT WAS EXPOSED THAT THE TRASK FAMILY AND THEIR DESCENDANTS PREVENTED THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS FROM GETTING ON TO THEIR OWN TRUST PATENTED LAND.

IN THE LATE 1860'S ROSEWELL TRASK OF STONGVILLE, OHIO, CAME TO CALIFORNIA. HE EVENTUALLY MADE HIS WAY FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TO THE SAN PASQUAL VALLEY (PLEASE NOTE THE VALLEY WAS NAMED AFTER THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS WHOSE LAND IT WAS) AND THE BALLENA VALLEY. HE FIRST MARRIED A MEXICAN WOMAN BY THE NAME OF MATTIANA MARTHA WARNER TRASK WASHBURN. THEY HAD 2 CHILDREN, FRANK AND HENRY. AFTER THEY SPLIT UP, WHEN THE CHILDREN WERE VERY YOUNG, MATTIANA MARTHA MARRIED CALVIN WASHBURN, ANOTHER WHITE MAN FROM OHIO. ACCORDING TO HENRY TRASK, IT WAS WASHBURN THAT SET FIRE TO THE ORIGINAL SAN PASQUAL VILLAGE TO GET THE INDIANS OFF OF THEIR LAND. YEARS LATER, FRANK TRASK MARRIED A MEXICAN WOMAN. THEY DIVORCED. HE THEN MARRIED A HALF BLOOD MESA GRANDE INDIAN NAMED LENORA LACHAPPA. (LENORA'S MOTHER, FELICIANA, WAS A MEXICAN). ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE SAN PASQUAL REFUSED TO GO ON TO THE CRAP LAND THE BIA SET ASIDE FOR THEM, AMOS FRANK, BIA SCHOOL TEACHER AT MESA GRANDE, HIRED FRANK TRASK TO BE A CARETAKER OF THE SAN PAQUAL LAND, AND KEEP SQUATTERS OFF OF THE LAND. FROM THE TIME THAT THESE TRASK THIEVES STEPPED ON TO THE LAND, THEY NOT ONLY KEPT SQUATTERS OFF OF THE LAND, BUT THEY ALSO KEPT THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS OFF OF THE LAND! THERE IS EVIDENCE THE SOME OF THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS TRIED TO GET ON TO THEIR OWN LAND, BUT FROM 1910 THROUGH 1955, THE TRASK'S KEPT THEM OFF AND TRIED TO STEAL IT FOR THEIR OWN.

IN 1955, THERE WERE CALIFORNIA SENATE HEARINGS ON THE CALIFORNIA INDIANS. IT WAS EXPOSED THAT THE BIA KNEW THAT THE TRASKS WERE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, HAD NO RIGHT TO BE ON THE LAND, OTHER THAN AS CARETAKERS, AND THAT THEY HAD ACTIVELY PREVENTED THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS FROM GETTING ON TO THEIR OWN TRUST PATENTED LAND.

WHEN THE BIA WAS FORCED TO DO SOMETHING TO FINALLY GET THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS ON THE SAN PASQUAL RESERVATION THEY HAD TO CONTEND WITH THE TRASK'S. RATHER THAN DOING THE RIGHT THING AND KICKING THEM OFF OF THE LAND AND SENDING THEM BACK TO MESA GRANDE WHERE THEY BELONGED, THEY ALLOWED THEM TO STAY. CONTINUED BELOW



Anonymous said...

FROM THE START, THE BIA WERE CONFUED ABOUT FRANK TRASK AND LENORA LACHAPPA. AMOS FRANK, THE MAN WHO HIRED FRANK TRASK AS THE CARETAKER, BECAME ILL AND DIED. HE KNEW THAT NEITHER FRANK, A WHITE MAN, AND LENORA, A 1/2 BLOOD MESA GRANDE INDIAN, WERE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS LATER, THERE WAS A CONFUSION ABOUT WHO THEY WERE BECAUSE THEY STARTED APPEARING ON THE SAN PASQUAL CENSUS STARTING IN 1910. . . EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS.

IN 1916, THE BUREAU WAS MADE AWARE THAT THEY WERE NOT SAN PASQUAL. IN 1920, THE BIA CONFIRMED WITH LENORA WHAT SHE ALREADY KNEW, THAT FRANK TRASK WAS NOT A SAN PASQUAL INDIAN. HOWEVER, AN IDIOT AT THE BIA SAID THAT HE WOULD DO WHATEVER HE COULD TO GET LENORA AND HER TWO SPAWN, LAND AT SAN PASQUAL. HMMM! KNOWING FULL WELL THAT FRANK TRASK WAS NOT AN INDIAN, LENORA LACHAPPA TRASK LIED ON HER 1928 APPLICATION AND SAID THAT FRANK TRASK WAS 1/2 SAN PASQUAL.

AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT FRANK AND LENORA'S SPAWN, FLORENCE TRASK FISHER STEWART WOLFE WAS A REAL HOOLIGAN WHO HAD LEARNED THE WAYS OF HER WHITE ANCESTORS, THAT IT WAS O.K. TO LIE AND STEAL FROM THE INDIANS, WOULD NOT ALLOW THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS ON THEIR LAND, THE BIA HAD TO DO SOMETHING. THEY GOT THE INDIANS ON THEIR TRUST PATENTED LAND BBBBUUUUTTTT THEY ALLOWED THE HOOLIGAN SPAWN TO REMAIN ON THE LAND AS WELL. IN 1959, THE BIA LIED TO THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, CHANGED THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE AND ENROLLED FLORENCE, HELEN, HER SISTER, THE FISHER/STEWART SPAWN OF FLORENCE, AND THE BIGGEST HOOLIGAN OF THEM ALL, AUDREY, WHO MARRIED A MAN NAMED DAVE TOLER. THE BIA DID THIS AGAINST THE CLEAR AND SPECIFIC PROTEST OF THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. IT HAS BEEN A FIGHT SINCE THE BEGINNING AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY.

RELYING ON THE 1928 OF LENORA LACHAPPA, ONLY, THE BIA MANIPULATED THE BLOOD OF THE TRASK DESCENDANTS, ALLEN LAWSON, CHERYL CALAC, DAVE TOLER, AND THEIR SPAWN, AND ENROLLED THESE HOOLIGAN TRASK DESCENDANTS IN THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBE. IN FACT, THEY NOT ONLY INCREASED THEIR BLOOD BUT AGAINST THE SAN PASQUAL ENROLLMENT STATUTE, UTILIZED THEIR "TOTAL INDIAN BLOOD" AND ENROLLED ALLEN AND HIS SISTER . . . AND A YEAR OR TWO LATER MANIPLATED THE BLOOD EVEN MORE TO ENROLL DAVE 'THE LIAR' TOLER. NOT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAN PASQUAL BLOOD. THEY HAVE GERRYMANDERED THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBAL GOVERNMENT, LIED AND MANIPULATED THE TRUE INDIANS, AND KEEP OUT THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL FROM THEIR TRIBAL GOVERNMENT. TO MAKE IT WORSE, THEY STEAL. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF $$ THAT ARE MISSING FROM THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBE.
THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR FEDERAL GRANTS UTILIZING THE NUMBERS INCLUDING THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS, AND THEY HAVE NOT USED THE $ FOE THE PURPOSE IN WHICH IT WAS GIVEN. THEY HIRE THEIR FRIENDS IN POSITIONS OF POWER TO DO THEIR BIDDING AND THEY HARM THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. THEY ARE A DISGUSTING BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO BRING SHAME ON THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL. LIKE THE PECHANGA AND PALA CORRUPT TRIBAL GOVEDNMENTS THAT DISENROLL THE TRUE NATIVE FROM THEIR TRIBE TO LINE THEIR POCKETS, THE TRASK FAMILY (LAWSON, TOLER, CALAC, HERRERA) DO THE SAME THING, EXCEPT THEY DENY ENROLLMENT TO THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

Anonymous said...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. TRUE NATIVES IN INDIAN COUNTRY, PLEASE BE SURE TO SEE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF THE TRASK FAMILY (LAWSON, TOLER, CALAC, HERRERA)AT August 22, 2015 at 9:17 PM:

"The LaChappas were West of the actual San Pasqual village and there are Maps from 1870's to prove were they resided. They LaChappas are also related to the Lachusas and I'm sorry to tell you but there are ancestors buried on the west of Mule Hill. We are not in court and don't planning on being anytime in the future. You can say what you must but we are enrolled and you are not. Good luck with your court proceedings and enrollment. You saying that Lachappas are not Indians is just plain stupid."

THERE YOU GO. NOT SAN PASQUAL AT ALL. AND THERE YOU GO, THEY ARE ENROLLED IN THE SAN PAQUAL TRIBE AND THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS ARE NOT. NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT THE LACHAPPA'S ARE NOT INDIANS, YOU UNENLIGHTED SPAWN OF THIEVES. WHAT THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS STATE, AND WHAT ORIGINAL PECHANGE BLOG EXPOSES, IS THAT YOU ARE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. YOU TREAT THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS LIKE DIRT, JUST LIKE YOUR WHITE ANCESTORS DID. YOU STEAL THE LAND FROM THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, JUST LIKE YOUR TRASK/HALF-BLOOD MESA GRANDE ANCESTORS DID. YOU STEAL THE SAN PASQUAL MONEY AND RESOURCES JUST LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS DID. YOU ARE TRYING TO HIJACK THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL HERITAGE. THAT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. THE SAN PASQUAL HAVE A VOICE NOW AND WILL NEVER LET THIS GO AND WILL TELL EVERYONE WHO WILL LISTEN, UNTIL THEY GET NOT ONLY THEIR LAND BACK BUT THEIR TRIBE. AND YOU AND YOUR MEXICAN FRIENDS FROM L.A. THAT HAVE TRIED TO STEAL IT ARE NOT ONLY EXPOSED BUT WILL CONTINUE TO BE EXPOSED. YOU ARE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS.

Anonymous said...

Wow alot of posts since I said ,I think the Lachappa's are on Barona sycuan , and Viejas. So alot of people are saying all these Lachappa's were watching land or are not Indian ( kinda hard to believe ) .

But one guy said Mr.Lawson has a tiny bit of Indian in him? ( Looks like more than a tiny bit) ?

Anonymous said...

TO August 23, 2015 at 10:05 AM

There are true Native LaChappas at Barona, Sycuan and Viejas. However, the Trask people who have a little bit of Mesa Grande are not San Pasqual Indians. That is the point. Lawson is a tiny bit Mesa Grande from his father. From his mother he is Pit River and Miwok. NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIAN. Their white ancestor was hired as a caretaker of the land to keep squatters off of the San Pasqual trust patented land. The Trask became the very squatters they were hired to prevent coming on to the land; which included the San Pasqual Indians, whose land it was.

Anonymous said...

So your saying they were watching the land BUT, got enrolled down the line ????

But they were really land care takers ? (with a little indian blood from another tribe)?

Anonymous said...

That is correct. The testimony before the California Senate confirms this. they were caretakers of the land and were there for 40 years. The Bureau lied to the San Pasqual Indians, there is an internal memo from 1959 to Orlando Garcia, in which he is told not to tell the San Pasqual Indians that the BIA changed the enrollment statute that had been approved by the San Pasqual Indians. That was when the first of the thieve Trasks were wrongfully enrolled by the Bureau. Then in 1995 the Bureau relied on lies in the 1928 application of Lenora LaChappa Trask to justify enrolling Lawson and his sister . . . and a couple of years later, the BIA manipulated even more records to just enrollment of Dave Toler. It is a disgrace. Look at Reztalk and you will see photos of these people. If you want to see the entire story of each of the Trask ancestors, look back on OPB and the history is posted on Squibbed. Each statement about them is backed up by certified records from the National Archives.

Anonymous said...

Only one thing, Dave Toler is jusssssst Stupid with a capital S. Learn your history and stop trying so hard. You WILL go down and everyone behind you including the mexican Allen Lawson whose father was ADOPTED. YES! Allen Ernest Lawson SR was adopted. Learn your hisotory Toler. You are next.

Anonymous said...

I just checked out Reztalk on facebook is that the site ? And youtube videos is that reztalk ?

Anonymous said...

Yes, that is correct, Reztalk. There are lots of people that have posted on Youtube. You can google and find things, too. Look through Original Pechanga Blog, you will find links to Scribd and you will find all sorts of documents, genealogies and certified records about the fraud and thieving, LaChappa/Trask family members.

Anonymous said...

The San Pasquale tribe gave the power to enroll to the BIA, they have the final say, why all of a sudden? Why are all of you so called "Indians" just now trying to get enrolled? Why not 30 years ago? What is your motive and agenda, Casino welfare checks? How hard is it to prove to the BIA that you are an Indian? Why would the BIA not enroll you if you are entitled? Seems to me that a lot of what you are saying are personal attacks on families that are enrolled. Also if Jose Juan was a full blood, and lived at the original village, along with his full-blooded parents, where the hell did the name Martinez come from? Aren't Diegueno people Kumeyaay people, they speak the same language and practice the same culture, shit they are even related. How can Santa Ysabel be Kumeyaay, but Mesa Grande not be, I thought they were one people. Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Why are all of you so called "Indians" just now trying to get enrolled? Why not 30 years ago?

Why does that matter ? If a family was living on the street (would you care )? Are you a christian?

Would you give a dollar to a homeless man on a corner?

What if a man was disabled and you knew he should be a member and could use the help? ( Are you that cold blooded)?

OR WOULD you threaten to kill the man if he would not shut up about the tribe ? ( Christian way)

Anonymous said...

It matters because if the tribe was still poor, none of you would care. If the tribe was still poor would you give to help? Or are you just now trying to get enrolled because you "deserve" benefits. I just don't understand why now, why not 30 years ago when the tribe was poor.

Anonymous said...

It matters because if the tribe was still poor, none of you would care.


That's your reason or enrollment (issue)?

The tribe has no by laws that they go by? No code of ethics? ( Like lawson said in the video )?

Anonymous said...

Well August 23, at 3:13 p.m., let's start with the difference between Mesa Grande and San Pasqual. Their languages are different. While both descend from the Yuma family of languages of the Havasupai, Mesa Grande speal 'Iipay = Northern Diegueno. Kasqualay = Central Eastern Kamia or Kumeya or today Kumeyaay. The distinction between the two distinct dialects is a metathesis of the Yuma languages. There is a distinction between them is complex. Varieties of Diegueno for a dialect continuum, but show a greater diversity than Yuman. Yuman are a set of dialects termed Cochimi. This does not apply to the Mesa Grande Indians, from which the Mesa Grande LaChappa/Trasks descend. Jose Juan, Guadalupe and the San Pasqual Kumeyaay had a completely different dialect. Jose Juan wrote about this.

The Diegueno language has, for example, there is a Santa Ysabel text and an Inaja text. For Tipay, there is a Jamul grammar. There is a distinct Yuman grammar which is Kamia or Kumeyaay. That dialect is what the San Pasqual Kumeyaay spoke.

Verbal morphology is more complex. Primary stems or themes consist of a root alone or a root augmented by reduplication, affixation and/or tracers of earlier incorporation. The variety of causative formations, involving prefixation, vocalic ablaut, or a combination can be found. For example, melyyay is to be ugly . . . . .versus te-mely-aa-yaaya is to make ugly. OR Pam is to arrive . . . versus aayip is to arrive. So, you see Toler, Lawson, or whomever you are, you show your ignorance. For a further discussion on the distinction between the Mesa Grande Indian 'Iipay language and the San Pasqual Kumeyaay, I would encourage you to review the paper written by Professor Margaret Langdon, which I believe she wrote in the 1970's of the distinction between the Mesa Grande Indians, of which you possess a very little bit of blood, and the San Pasqual Kumeyaay, of which you possess no blood. I will address the rest of your clearly distressed and angry message below.

Anonymous said...

Is that why your here on earth ( for this short time )?

I do not belong to your tribe...I seek nothing from you.

What do you want for yourself? You can't take your rez,casino , or money to heaven.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you want to be a good ,Father, Mother ,brother or Sister....Not just a sinner.

Anonymous said...

TO August 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM

YOU STATE, "The San Pasquale tribe gave the power to enroll to the BIA, they have the final say, why all of a sudden?" UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE 1959. THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS APPROVED OF THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE AT 25 CFR 48. HOWEVER, THERE IS AN INTERNAL MEMO FROM 1959 WHERE THE BUREAU WRONGFULLY CHANGED THE SAN PASQUAL ENROLLMENT ADDING IN 48.5(F) AFTER THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS APPROVED THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE AND THEY DID NOT LEARN OF THE WRONGFUL INCLUSION UNTIL IT WAS ACTUALLY PUBLISHED IN 1960. WHEN THEY LEARNED OF IT, THEY SUBMITTED THEIR FIRST CHALLENGE TO THE ENROLLMENT OF THE TRASKS, THAT WAS JULY 14, 1960. THE REASON THAT THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS EVEN INCLUDED A BLOOD QUANTUM WITHIN THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE WAS THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD PROTECT THEM FROM ANY ENROLLMENT OF THE WHITE/MESA GRANDE TRASK/LACHAPPA'S THAT WERE ON THEIR LAND. THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT IF IT WERE DIRECT DESCENT, THEN THESE CRIMINALS WOULD SOME HOW WORM THEIR WAY IN. LITTLE DID THEY UNDERSTAND THE CORRUPTION BETWEEN FLORENCE TRASK AND LEONARD HILL OF THE BIA AND THAT THEY WOULD BE BETRAYED BY THE BIA WITH THE INCLUSION OF 48.5(F). ALL OF A SUDDEN? NOT AT ALL. THE DISPUTE STARTED SHORTLY AFTER 1910 WHEN THE SAN PASQUAL TRIED TO GET ON THE LAND (THERE ARE CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THIS FACT) AND CONTINUED UNTIL 1955 WHEN THE CRIME OF THE TRASKS WAS EXPOSED BEFORE THE CALIFORNIA SENATE . . . . AND IT EXISTED ON JULY 14, 1960 AND CONTINUES .. . AND AGAIN IN 1995 AND TODAY. THE MESA GRANDE TRASK LACHAPPA'S HAVE NO SAN PASQUAL BLOOD AND DO NOT BELONG ENROLLED IN THE SAN PASQUAL BAND. THIS IS NOT NEW. FOR YOU TO STATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS ANOTHER TRASK LIE.


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Anonymous said...

YOU ASK, "Why are all of you so called "Indians" just now trying to get enrolled?" MANY YEARS AGO THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS WERE FINALLY ABLE TO GET ON TO THEIR TRUST PATENTED SAN PASQUAL RESERVATION. IF YOU READ THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THE 1955 SENATE HEARINGS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT THE SAN PASQUAL DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE 2 OLD LADIES LIVING ON THE LAND (FLORENCE TRASK FISHER STEWART WOLFE OR HELEN TRASK LAWSON WARD), THEY JUST WANTED TO FINALLY GET ON THEIR LAND. AS THEY RETURNED TO THE RESERVATION, THEY WERE FAMILY; THEY LIVED AS FAMILY, SUFFERED WITHOUT WATER OF ELECTRICITY LIKE FAMILY, ETC. THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW CRIMINAL THE TRASK DESCENDANTS WERE . . . . .WELL AT LEAST SOME OF THEM . . .MARY MATTESON, AND OTHERS, ABSOLUTELY HATED THEM AND SPOKE UP EVERY TIME THEY COULD. ANYWAY, THEY WERE ALL SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, EXCEPT FOR THE HOOLIGANS THE BIA LEFT ON THE LAND, AND LIVED AS SUCH ACCORDING TO THEIR KUMEYAAY NATIVE WAYS. THINKING THAT THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT WOULD FINALLY DIE AWAY, EITHER FROM OLD AGE OR ALCOHOL ABUSE, THEY GOT ON WITH THEIR LIVES. THEN THE WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO INDIAN COUNTRY HAPPENED, CORRUPTION, LIES, DECEIT, AND THE LIE CONTAINED WITHIN LENORA LACHAPPA'S 1928 APPLICATION. FOR YEARS, AND YEARS, AND YEARS, EVERYTIME THE TRASK DESCENDANTS TRIED TO GET ENROLLED IN SAN PASQUAL, THEY WERE DENIED. (FAMILY MEMBERS WERE ENROLLED AT MESA GRANDE ALL ALONG AND STILL TODAY). THEN SOMEONE SEIZED ON THE LIE WITHIN LENORA'S APPLICATION, THAT FRANK TRASK WAS 1/2 SAN PASQUAL INDIAN (KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE CERTIFIED RECORDS THAT LENORA KNEW ALL ALONG, AS DID THE BUREAU, THAT FRANK TRASK WAS 1/2 WHITE OHIO AND 1/2 MEXICAN). OMG, THE CORRUPT AND IGNORANT BUREAU ENROLLED ALLEN AND HIS SISTER, CHERYL CALAC. THEN TO MAKE THINGS EVEN SICKER, THE BUREAU ENROLLED THE TOLERS! NOW, THIS IS WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT. MANY SAN PASQUAL DID NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO AND WHAT TO DO TO PROVE THEIR BLOOD LINE BECAUSE IT HAD NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE BEFORE. HOWEVER, THEY WERE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THESE HOOLIGAN THIEVES TO STEAL THEIR HERITAGE. POWERLESS, WITHOUT RESOURCES, THEY STRUGGLED TO FIND THE PAPERWORK. UNLIKE THE THIEVING TRASK DESCENDANTS WHO LIE AND STEAL, THE SAN PASQUAL HAD VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF RESOURCES. THAT IS WHY IT TOOK 10 YEARS TO GET ENROLLED IN THEIR TRIBE (2005 ENROLLMENT BY THE SAN PASQUAL ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE AND 2005 VOTE BY THE GENERAL COUNSEL TO ENROLL THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS).

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Anonymous said...

YOU ASK, "Why not 30 years ago? What is your motive and agenda, Casino welfare checks?" THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. IS IT ABOUT THE MONEY, OR AS YOU CALL IT THE CASINO WELFARE CHECKS. TO BE HONEST IT IS A SMALL PART. IT IS COMPLETELY SICKENING TO SEE THE THIEVE TRASK DESCENDANTS PROFIT FROM OUR HERITAGE . . AND I MEAN PROFIT TO THE TUNE OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IF NOT THE MILLIONS THEY ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE STOLEN. BUT IT IS ONLY A PART. LIKE BEFORE, A MAJORITY OF THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS LIVE IN POVERTY LIKE THEY DID BEFORE THE CASINO. THEY DO NOT BENEFIT FROM IT. THE ELDERS GET THE BENEFIT OF THEIR BIRTH RIGHT AS SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DENIED OUR ENROLLMENT DUE TO THE CORRUPTION OF THE TRASK DESCNDANTS, WE ARE DENIED A MONTHLY CHECK THAT WOULD HELP OUR IMMEDIATE FAMILIES, WE ARE DENIED MONEY FOR COLLEGE, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS (ALL WE GET IS A $500 PER YEAR CONTRIBUTION TOWARD SOMETHING RE: EDUCATION). MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE DO NOT GET TO ATTEND OUR TRIBE'S MEETINGS, WE CANNOT VOTE IN OUR GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE NO SAY IN OUR TRIBE. AS A RESULT, THE TRASK DESCENDANTS (LAWSON, CALAC, TOLER, HERRERA, AND OTHERS THAT DO NOT BELONG) BENEFIT EVERY DAY AT OUR EXPENSE. THEY HAVE A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT THAT STEAL FROM THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL EVERY DAY. THEY HAVE DENIED OUR ENROLLMENT ALL TO THEIR OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT. IT IS DISGUSTING.THEY HAVE TRIED TO STEAL OUR HERITAGE. THEY HAVE CHANGED OUR TRIBAL NAME FROM SAN PASQUAL BAND OF KUMEYAAY INDIANS TO THEIR TRIBE DIEGUENO. NOW, WE KNOW THAT IT ISN'T RIGHT, BUT DO THE PUBLIC? NO. AND NEITHER DO YOU OR YOU WOULD NOT MAKE THE INNANE STATEMENTS YOU HAVE. THE TRASK DESCENDANTS DO NOT KNOW OUR KUMEYAAY HISTORY, OUR KUMEYAAY LANGUAGE, OUR KUMEYAAY DANCES. THEY CAN'T TAKE IT FROM US, BUT THEY CAN BURY IT IN CORRUPTION. CONTINUED BELOW

Anonymous said...

YOU ASK, "How hard is it to prove to the BIA that you are an Indian?
WELL WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A POLITICIANS LIKE ALLEN LAWSON, HIS COUSIN DAVE TOLER, WHOSE NON-SAN PASQUAL NOSES ARE UP THE ASS OF THE CORRUPT BUREAU, IT IS DIFFICULT. HERE IS THE DEAL, BACK IN 2005, THE TRASKS AND THE BUREAU RELIED ON WRONG 1928 APPLICATIONS OF FAMILY MEMBERS, AND I MEAN EACH AND EVERY ONE WERE WRONG. THEN THE BUREAU DID NOT FOLLOW THE ENROLLMENT STATUTE GIVING NOTICE TO TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS. THERE IS A LETTER FROM AMY DUTSCHKE, CORRUPT, STATING THAT ALL PARTIES HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE THEIR DOCUMENTS TO PROVIDE THEIR BLOOD LINES. WELL, GUESS WHAT, GUESS WHO DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEND IN THEIR DOCUMENTS. YEP, YOU GOT IT, THE JOSE JUAN AND GUADALUPE DESCENDANTS. SO, IT IS NOT EASY TO WORK AGAINST CORRUPTION AND LIES.

YOU ASK, "Why would the BIA not enroll you if you are entitled?" BECAUSE THEY ARE CORRUPT. THEY REFUSE TO ALLOW THE JOSE JUAN AND GUADALUPE DESCENDANTS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM WHY THEY TREAT THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL SO BADLY. MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH ALL OF THE MISTAKES AND CORRUPTION OF WHO THEY HAVE ENROLLED IN THE TRIBE AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FACE THEIR MISTAKES. IT IS A MYSTERY. BUT IT IS REAL AND IT IS A FIGHT.

YOU STATE, "Seems to me that a lot of what you are saying are personal attacks on families that are enrolled." PLEASE UNDERSTAND THESE THIEVES ARE NOT SAN PASQUAL INDIANS AND DO NOT BELONG ENROLLED IN THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBE. THEY BARELY HAVE ENOUGH MESA GRANDE TO BE ENROLLED IN THEIR OWN TRIBE. BUT THAT IS WHERE THEY BELONG. THEY HAVE DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS TO THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, THEY ARE CORRUPT, THEY ARE THIEVES AND THEY SHOULD GO. IF YOU ARE NATIVE, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE BUREAU ENROLLING YOUR ENEMIES IN YOUR TRIBE, THEN THEY GERRYMANDER THE TRIBAL GOVERNMENT TO KEEP YOU OUT? THEY ARE NOT PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THIS FAMILY, IT IS EXPOSING THE TRUTH. HAD THEY NOT INTERFERED WITH THE ENROLLMENT OF THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL DESCENDANTS IN 2005 MAYBE THINGS WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WE WILL NEVER, EVER STOP. WE WILL NEVER STOP TALKING. WE WILL NEVER STOP EXPOSING. WE WILL NEVER LET IT GO. WE ARE THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL KUMEYAAY INDIANS. THEY ARE NOT.

Anonymous said...

YOU ASK, " Also if Jose Juan was a full blood, and lived at the original village, along with his full-blooded parents, where the hell did the name Martinez come from? FOR THAT ANSWER YOU WILL EITHER HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE DOCUMENTS ARE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED TO THE BUREAU FOR OUR ENROLLMENT OR UNTIL THE FEDERAL LAW SUIT IS FILED. I PROMISE, YOUR QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED. UNTIL THAT TIME, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF FEAR, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF SHAME, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING NEGATIVE, THAT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS DELAYED. BUT IT WILL BE ANSWERED. I CAN GIVE YOU ONE HINT, GO BACK TO THE MID-1870'S, WHEN THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS WERE BURNED OUT OF THEIR VILLAGE BY FRANK TRASK'S STEP FATHER, CALVIN WASHBURN, AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE AT THAT TIME FOR ALL OF THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. HOPE THIS HAS ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR ANGRY CONCERNS. WHY DON'T YOU ASK THE TRASK'S WHY THEY INSIST ON HARMING THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS?

Anonymous said...

Language dialects change due to location. The Luiseno had different dialects at Pechsnga, Pala, Rincon, and La Jolla but nobody denies that these people are not Luiseno. Diegueno is a word used by the Spanish, but Mesa Grande people are just as much Kumeyaay as every other Kumeyaay community. I guess my question is why didn't your family exsist on the reservation or why wasn't it enrolled in 1955? Why wait all these years, you can blame today's corruption on something that happened 60 years ago. Are you suggesting that that particular family has targeted your specific family since 1955 and has continuously denied your enrollment?

Anonymous said...

August 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM

You ask, "Is that why your here on earth ( for this short time )?
I do not belong to your tribe...I seek nothing from you. What do you want for yourself? You can't take your rez,casino , or money to heaven." I AM AFRAID THESE ARE QUESTIONS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE CRIMINAL TRASK DESCENDANTS.

At 6 p.m. you ask, "Maybe you want to be a good ,Father, Mother ,brother or Sister....Not just a sinner." ONCE AGAIN, YOU MUST ADDRESS THESE, AND MANY OTHER QUESTIONS, TO THE TRASK DESCENDANTS, LAWSON, TOLER, CALAC, HERRERA, ETC. THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS CONTINUE TO BE THE VICTIMS OF THEIR GREED AND CORRUPTION. WHAT DO WE WANT, WE WANT THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBE TO BE MADE OF SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. WE WANT THE SAN PASQUAL RESERVATION, THAT WAS TRUST PATENTED TO OUR ANCESTORS, TO BE OUR LAND WITHOUT GREEDY, CORRUPT INDIANS OF OTHER TRIBES. ONCE THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED, THEN WE WOULD GLADLY HELP ALL OTHERS. BUT AT THIS JUNCTURE, GOD HELPS THOSE THAT HELP THEMSELVES, AND THAT IS WHAT OUR ANCESTORS CRY OUT THAT WE DO. SO TO SUPPORT THE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS, CRY OUT AGAINST THE CORRUPTION OF THE TRASK FAMILY AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEIR DESCENDANTS! THANK YOU.


Anonymous said...

The dispute is about 150 Tribal Members who were recognized by their tribe and while they were fulfilling their rights, the enrollment committee that determined these members as members of the band,were replaced by another new enrollment committee that was taking the positions of the active enrollment committee that was elected by the General Council... The new enrollment committee that WaS NOT elected by the General council, they were placed their by the direction of the chairman. This within itself is a direct violation to tribal constitutional Law and exceeds the scope of his authority to replace a elective Active Enrollment Committee with a non-elected placed enrollment committee and that has no bearing or taken action as members of the band, because of their positions being in the position of NOT being elected. Now since the chairman and any of the non-elected enrollment committee members at that time, that made suggestions, correspondences, recommendations, or any determinations on behalf of the Modesta Descendants after the fact, are directly irrelevant and illegitimate and have no bearing on the Modesta Martinez Descendants enrollment today. Now this is where it gets real interesting..... The sovereign immunity does not protect Tribal Officals who Step Out of their scope of authority, because when they do that the sovereignty of the band does not protect the individual, because the individual did not act within the scope of their Authority or direction of tribal law which gives each tribal official the sovereignty to wave and be protected under the tribal law.

Anonymous said...

YOU STATE AND ASK, August 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM

"Diegueno is a word used by the Spanish, but Mesa Grande people are just as much Kumeyaay as every other Kumeyaay community. O.K. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ DR. MARGARET LANGDON. THEY MESA GRANDE PEOPLE SPEAK A DIFFERENT DIALECT, WHICH DIFFERENTIATES THEM FROM THE SAN PASQUAL. I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY IT IS LIKE LISTENING TO SOMEONE FROM ALABAMA OR NEW JERSEY. THEY ARE ALL AMERICAN'S BUT THEY DON'T SOUND ANYTHING LIKE THOSE OF US IN CALIFORNIA, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE. READ DR. LANGDON, SHE EXPLAINS IT WITH SPECIFIC USE OF LANGUAGE STUDYING THE ELDER NATIVE SPEAKERS OF EACH OF THE TRIBES.

I guess my question is why didn't your family exsist on the reservation or why wasn't it enrolled in 1955? MANY, MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WERE ENROLLED. HOWEVER, THEY WERE ENROLLED WITH THE WRONG SAN PASQUAL BLOOD QUANTUM. WHAT THEY CALL THE "MODESTA DESCENDANTS" ARE REALLY THE JOSE JUAN DESCENDANTS. THEY HAVE BEEN THE VICTIM OF INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS, GROSSLY INCORRECT PAPERWORK, AND THE CORRUPTION OF THE TRASK FAMILY, LAWSON, CALAC, TOLER, HERRERA, ETC.

Why wait all these years, you can blame today's corruption on something that happened 60 years ago. ARE YOU NATIVE? DID YOU KNOW THAT DESPITE COMPLAINTS FOR YEARS, IT TOOK THE NAVAJO 60 YEARS TO PROVE THAT THE BIA BREACHED THEIR FIDUCIARY DUTY TO THE NAVAJO PEOPLE? $534 MILLION DOLLARS WAS THEIR SETTLEMENT.

Are you suggesting that that particular family has targeted your specific family since 1955 and has continuously denied your enrollment? YES! ABSOLUTELY! BUT WE CAN SPECIFICALLY, DOCUMENTED, CLEARLY IN 2005/2006 . . .AND IT CONTINUES TO THIS VERY DAY!!!

Anonymous said...

Yes we have a Constitution and Bylaws. Do the Trask's follow it? Absolutely not. Do we have a code of ethics? The San Pasqual Indians do, but not the Trask's. Just go to the San Pasqual web site, run by the Trask's . . . click on Ethics Department. It is blank. That is just a little thing but it demonstrates exactly who Allen Lawson, Cheryl Calac, Audrey Toler, Dave Toler, every one of their family members and every one of their cousins live by NO ETHICS. They are thieves, liars, criminals and are NOT San Pasqual Indians.

Anonymous said...

Don't think that none of our family are enrolled. They are there are 85 family members. Amelia Martinez Contreras Villalobos is the eldest tribal member at 101 years young. The Trask's and their corrupt friends and family out number the true San Pasqual. That is why the true San Pasqual descendants are not enrolled.

Anonymous said...

the Trask's, Lawson, Toler, Calac, Herrera and their other family members, like to try and change the past to remember what they want to remember. They can't anymore. Their lies are all exposed. And, if they tell any more lies, we have the documents to expose them, too. We have ALL of the documents, the census records, the internal Bureau records, the testimony before the Senate, our own records. They can't change the past anymore because it is documented, documented, documented. Can't bullshit your way out of this anymore, Dave Toler.

Native Diamond said...

Wow!!~ Native Country!~ That was a Very Well informed~ Ancestor Spirit filled Warrior!..He handed that"TRUTH" Down like a boss and Wickedness is MAD...And I would like To thank Pechanga Readers, Bloggers and activists, reporters, and journal juniors for reading about the corruption of our people, but lets not forget there are other 'brothers and sisters who are also in a grave dilemma of dis-enrollment, and September Is Month of "Prayer" before the harvest. So we must "pray" to the creator, who changes everything.. please Join our People as we Pray each day in September, for all our Native People and Our tribe and Paulina Hunters Decedents that we all get or justice and our birthrights. 'CANT STOP" WE WILL NOT STOP" EXPECT US!...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Talk. The Mesa Grande Census From 1911, 1912, 1913,1914, 1915, 1927, 1928 all demonstrate that Lenora's parents, Antonio and Feiciana Lachappa. Lenora's twin brother Sylvester, and her brother Bruno Lachappa are Mesa Grande descendants , not San Pasqual Indians. Feliciana Lachppa's Death Certificate indicates she died at her reservation, Mesa grande, and she was buried at Mesa Grande's cemetery, and not the cemetery on San Pasqual. As noted by the bureau of Indian affairs own document, the San Pasqual census of 1925 taken by C.L. Ellis; "the trask's are originally from Mesa grande and we're settled hereon by former superintendent Amos Frank." " they do not possess the blood of the San Pasqual tribe members. The San Pasqual Indians were not occupying the land set aside for them and the only people living on it were Trask descendants. This does not make them possess "blood of the band". Merly because they laid claim to and occupied the land. When Lenora's Lachappa Trask's daughter Helen Agnes Trask submitted her application for inclusion in the 1928 California Indian judgment roll, ( Application # 10165), she claimed that she was a San Pasqual Indian. Helen also notes that she is 1/2 Indian, but does not list a degree of blood for her mother or father, and cannot name her Trask family grandparents, unlike all other 1928 applications , she did NOT have her application witness by any other tribal member as required, and her application, although approved, was left incomplete. This was submitted at the time when Frank Trask the higher caretaker had died, and the family was still squatting on the San Pasqual Indian Reservation Land. As reflected in the application, Helen Trask did not identify any San Pasqual Indian Ancestor/or relative that possess the necessary 1/8 degree of blood of the band. As noted by the BIA in the same 1928 application her father Frank Trask is not an Indian and also noted her mother's family Lenorah Lachappa Trask where mesa grande Indians.

Anonymous said...

Who's enrolled and who's not? That's the question.

Anonymous said...

Blah Blaah, Blah Blaah! That's all that's being said because nothings being done. If there was so much evidence against Allen Lawson and his entourage, then what are you guys waiting for? If Allen Lawson had any concerns with your allegations, do you think he'll walk around and hang around the rez waiting for judgment day?
It's not about what you have, it's about what you can do with what you have. Sounds to me like somebody's being strummed along and getting had. Desperate times may call for desperate measures, with that being said, any and everybody can turn scandalous.

Anonymous said...

I think the Martinez family is scandalous. They can't prove their own genealogy so they focus on everyone else's but their own. Ask any one of them to see their paperwork and the first thing they'll say is look at the Trasks! Look at the Villreals!! Look at the Oroscos! We have yet to see any documentation for the Martinez family. So they will continue to wait for a very long time till anyone of the enrolled families decides to send some mystery paperwork to the BIA. Good Luck.

Anonymous said...

To: August 24, 2015 at 6:37

That's all that's being said because nothings being done. If there was so much evidence against Allen Lawson and his entourage, then what are you guys waiting for? THERE ARE TWO CHALLENGES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST HIM AND ALL OF HIS FAMILY WHO WERE WRONGFULLY ENROLLED. WHY DON'T YOU ASK THE BUREAU WHAT THEY ARE DOING ABOUT THOSE CHALLENGES.

If Allen Lawson had any concerns with your allegations, do you think he'll walk around and hang around the rez waiting for judgment day? ABSOLUTELY, HE HAS NO SHAME WHATSOEVER AND AS LONG AS HE CAN LINE HIS POCKETS WITH $$ HE WILL.

It's not about what you have, it's about what you can do with what you have. Sounds to me like somebody's being strummed along and getting had. YES, THE TRUE SAN PASQUAL INDIANS ARE BEING HAD AND THE CRIMINAL TRASK KEEP STEALING, FOR THE MEAN TIME, BUT NOT FOR LONG

Desperate times may call for desperate measures, with that being said, any and everybody can turn scandalous.
August 24, 2015 at 6:37 PM

Anonymous said...

TO August 24, 2015 at 7:33 PM

"I think the Martinez family is scandalous." THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!

"They can't prove their own genealogy so they focus on everyone else's but their own. YES THEY CAN! Ask any one of them to see their paperwork and the first thing they'll say is look at the Trasks! THAT IS A LIE! WE DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THOSE FAMILIES. NOW, THE TRASK'S, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. THEY ARE THE HEART OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE TRIBE. Look at the Villreals!! Look at the Oroscos! We have yet to see any documentation for the Martinez family. IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT YOU HAVE 2 CHOICES, GO TO THE ATTORNEYS OFFICE AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE TRIBAL HISTORY, 1850'S THROUGH TODAY, INCLUDING THE GENEALOGICAL DOCUMENTS OF THE TRIBE. IN THE MEAN TIME. IF THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, TOO BAD. THE JOSE JUAN DESCENDANTS HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEIR 48.9 NOTICE TO SUBMIT THEIR RECORDS TO THE BUREAU. WE CAN TELL YOU ONE THING, HOWEVER, NEITHER THE TRIBE NOR THE BUREAU HAS ANYTHING. THEY HAVE RELIED ON THE 1928 APPLICATIONS OF THE FAMILY THAT ARE EACH INDIVIDUALLY DIFFERENT AND WRONG, OH YEAH, DAVE TOLER, AND THE CENSUS RECORD FOR A 40 YEAR OLD SONORAN MAN LIVING IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WHILE JOSE JUAN IS A SMALL CHILD IN THE SAN PASQUAL VILLAGE. So they will continue to wait for a very long time till anyone of the enrolled families decides to send some mystery paperwork to the BIA. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE BUREAU TO ACCEPT THE RECORDS, BUT THE CORRUPT TRIBE WITHDREW THE PAPERWORK SUBMITTED. WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE OF THAT? IT IS IN WRITING, MORE TRASK CORRUPTION!!! NO WORRIES, EVERYONE, EVERY GENEALOGY, WILL BE EXPSED IN FEDERAL COURT.

Good Luck. THANKS MUCH!

Anonymous said...

this is truth,,,... https://www.scribd.com/doc/254339815/BUREAU-OF-INDIAN-AFFAIRS-LA-CHAPPA-LAWSON-TRASK-FAMILY-HISTORY

Anonymous said...

This blog has gotten horrible. All it is, is families bashing each other. I guess the Hunter family needs some extra cash so why not. They are just as bad as corrupt Councils

Anonymous said...

How many Lawsons are there? What I have read sounds like there's a thousand of them. Why don't the people recall him. Pretty much every constitution has a recall rule. If you didn't know, tribes are sovereign and outsiders can't do anything. It all has to be done internally.

Anonymous said...

TO: August 25, 2015 at 1:34 p.m.

There have been recalls, but that is when the Trask's are at their best. They buy votes so that they get a few extra on their side, and then have others on their payroll that stuff the ballot box or miscount to favor them. So, not only will you get your per capita, but let me give you a job at the tribal hall, say running a department, and get paid an extra $15,000 per month, PLUS go ahead and fill your gas tank up on the tribe, and then use the tribal credit card. All it takes is that one vote and that thief stays in power. It's no different that what is going on at Pala or Pechanga. Except the BIA could do something about their enrollment, because they have not one but two challenges against them, and do nothing about it at all.

Anonymous said...

How do the HUNTERS make money off this blog?


This blog has gotten horrible. All it is, is families bashing each other. I guess the Hunter family needs some extra cash so why not. They are just as bad as corrupt Councils

Anonymous said...

August 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM
While you are entitled to your opinion, don't attack the Hunter family. Put your focus on the corruption at Pechanga, Pala and San Pasqual. These non-Indians are destroying Indian Country!

Anonymous said...

I was talking about an earlier post .....August 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM don't just read the last post?

Anonymous said...

Justice or else