Cupa News #5
(People Who Sleep in the Water)
This letter newsletter will be about history of the Pala Reservation. Hope the young people become more interested in how Pala became the new home of their grandparents, great-grandparents, and great-great-grandparents.
On April 12, 1895 the Secretary of the Interior approved an allotment roll for the Luiseño Band for a small reservation on the south side of the San Luis Rey River which was about 350 acres. One allottee was Maria Sal, she had four children: Ramona Scott, Adelina Giddens, Albert Golsh and Sebastian Salazar. All their descendants would be members of this reservation. None of these descendants would be from Warner’s Ranch area. How and when did they become enrolled in PBMI?
When the people moved to Pala from the Warner Ranch Area (Kupa, San Felipe and Puerta La Cruz), the Pala Reservation was established for them and covered about 1,100 acres.
These two Bands were separate Bands. The Luiseño band never voted at the Cupa meetings or even attended those meetings. This band was never part of the Kupa, San Felipe, and Puerta La Cruz. Now Robert claims you can’t belong to two reservation/tribes. It seems, in light of Robert’s claims that the Luiseño Band attending and voting at our meetings belong to two different reservations/tribes.
According to our Articles of Association you must be a descendant of those moved from Warner’s to be a member and vote! How many attending our meetings and voting can show that they are a descendant from Warner’s?
Is Robert slowly disenrolling descendants? Slowly kicking them off of the rolls for what reason?
In 1955, in testimony before the California Senate Interim Committee on California Indian Affairs, Robert Ardillo gave the following testimony on behalf of Old Pala:
Another document for proof. Funny how there is so much proof, yet some people still won't believe, they choose to believe the words from the mouths of criminals. Name one time that Robert Smith and Teresa Nieto have been truthful to the members, just one time with proof?
What's insane is that the same members keep him in office even though their per cap keeps going down. Why? It should be going up, not down. Yet his little sheep keep him in office. They are essentially cutting their own per cap down. Grow some balls and ask for an audit. That's why he got rid of the term limit. He knows he can hide the thievery if he and his cronies are in office. The tribes are always blaming the white man for everything, yet they let Robert rob them blind according to many. He and his friends are growing rich over your lack of caring and your trust in him. You deserve to lose everything like you will if it keeps up.
Get the scotts out of our res.They are stealing from us.
I'm sick and tired of everyone on here talking smack and not doing anything about it. You think giving your opinion and spreading the truth about Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto stealing Pala's money and abusing its members civil rights to stay in power is gonna make a difference?? Well I don't. The truth is not enough. If you feel that strongly about something then do something about it. That's what it took at Chukchansi to get federal attention and have the casino shut down. So do something! Don't speak about it, be about it!! Step up! Take action. Words are not enough. The EC has been getting away with these crimes for too long. It's TIME FOR ACTION!! No more words
@October 20, 2015 at 7:18 PM
Things are being done. Just sit tight. Action is coming.
Sit tight = don't do anything
Things are being done = wait and see
Not good options...
Things don't happen over night,so sit tight. Just like @7:18 said,"Things are being done" "Action is coming".
If that isn't good enough for you,lead the way!
Start swinging your Ax! Chop them down! Chop the evil EC down like the diseased tree they are!
my bad just like @9:46 pm said
Blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit
HAhaHahHAHa. PALAREZ is BACK!! WoooHoooo!!
And Palarez used correct spelling this time. Wow, may wonders never cease to amaze me.
Rick Cuevas aka Orginal Pechanga
Who are you to post such ridiculous made up rumors about Pala or its Ec? Pechanga didn't want you so you feel you need to run your mouth about a different reservation. You do not know Myself or anyone else you are writing about on your blog? So you and your information source or should I say story teller really should watch what they say because it will come back to bite you actually I think it's already started to. I wish no bad to you or yours but karma is real so find your facts out before you start typing your angry little post. I've talked to serval people from Pechanga that are good friends non of which spoke highly of you and they are not Macarro supporters either, that tells me that you all I need to know about your character and shows how weak you really are.
If you kick the Scotts out thy will use margaritas blood to stay on,the rolls, the lady they hate.
11:44 if the truth offends you stay off the blog! When you attack another persons character on line and stay anonymous that speaks volumes about you ! Please remember those you spoke to at PechAnga also did not stand up for the truth, so their opinion about Cuevas is really not valid. The struggle is real and your words to defend the Pala EC reveals your ignorance or your pay off! Which is it?
I think its valid. Rick Cuevas gives opinions about people he has never met. He picks sides. Look at all the shit he is trying to stir up about the CALACs on Rincon. He opens himself up. If he cant take it he should probably take down the blog or take it like a man. Our opinion matters just as much as his does.
@12:01 so that's your intention. To take down the blog. As someone else said, if you don't like the blog then don't come on it.
The EC should re enroll. A huge door is going to open if they don't. The pala EC could stay in power if they re enrolled. After the 9th circuit gets involved the EC will not have the control that it once had.
The Calacs haven't been picked on. What are you trying to start 12:01?
It's hilarious to me how they say get your facts straight. Did you morons even bother to read the paperwork actual documentation or just the bullshit posts. Anatomy mouse people can say whatever they want. But facts are facts. Read them you dumbass. If it's made up shit then they must have done than in the late 1800s-early 1900s. Man how the made up stories have lasted the test of time( major sarcasm inserted). You just can't fix stupid. Yes that's means you PALAREZ. And Rick you just keep doing your thing brother. The REAL Indians are behind you 100%. The rest of you fakes. Fuck off.
That was supposed to say anonymous people
@ 11:44, Rick has done no wrong here, so knock it off. He is a leader of the disenrolled and we like him. He gives us hope and strength to continue our fight. Rick has provided us with lots of information that he receives from other people. Everyone knows a blog is also opinion, so yes he has his right to post his opinion. Anyone that goes on a blog, will know that it is his opinion, but when you look at all the evidence he has been supplied with then his opinion means something. You are just upset that the truth is coming out. He also lets people know when it is something he has read or heard and not his own opinion. I bet people that aren't part of Macarro's bunch are talking to you, right, ha. If something wrong and evil is happening to your friends and loved ones and fellow members, it is your duty to stand up and fight for what is right and if you don't then you should be ashamed of yourself. You should consider yourself part of the problem, like an enabler, because the corruption of some of these leaders is like an addiction to them and they will continue to lie, steal, cheat, and hurt others until more people stand up to them.
I just herd that the 9th Circuit Court has agreed to hear the case from Pala. So it won't be long before JUSTICE will prevail and the Pala EC will be in tears and begging the disenrolled to have mercy on them and the Band.NO MERCY FOR THE EVIL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN PALA. YOU EC MEMBERS ALREADY MADE YOUR CHOICES.
SO NOW WE WILL SEE WHATS RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG IS WRONG.
AND SEE WHICH ONE OF YOU WILL TRY TO BE APPROVED FOR TANIF AND FOOD STAMPS.THEY WILL PROBABLY DENY YOUR PAPER WORK BECAUSE YOU HAVE STOLEN TOO MUCH MONEY OVER THE YEARS AND FAILLED TO REPORT YOU THEIFS OVER YEARS TO THE IRS. JUSTICE, JUSTICE, JUSTICE.
THE EC SHOULD START SAYING THEIR PRAYERS.(WHOOPS THEY DON'T KNOW THE WORDS TO THE PRAYERS)NO PUN INTENDED,DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
@11:44AM Why are you so mad. this Blog is not the only place where people say shit about the EC. It's every where you turn. Temecula, Riverside, Escondido, Fallbrook,
Valley Center in fact it's all over San Diego County as well as Riverside County. And before we are done it will be all over the world, how people were treated by their so called LEADERS. So you see it's not this BLOG that causing any problems, it people like you and the EC that are the ones responsible for the things that are being posted by people that have a right to do so.
So try putting the blame where blame is do, and stop trying to push it on innocent people that are trying to bring JUSTICE to Indian Country.
The truth is in plain site and unless you are blind or can't read it's your problem.
Keep up the good work rick, the Pala people have your back.
Question for the dishonorable robert smith a.k.a "the San Felipe Defalcator"
Why do you allow Luiseno to participate in meetings intended for the Cupeno people?
Why do you allow Luiseno to be nominated and serve in a Government meant for the Cupeno?
We the people of "The Band" eagerly await your reply.
If Robert re-enrolled you guys (cousins) now, then let's start off fresh. If he doesn't and waits for the courts to uphold the ASIA "final" decision on Margarita Brittens to be "FULLBLOOD" and Robert has to re-enroll then go for back-pay. It's your money just as much as any member and you should have been getting it all along. The EC has the money it won't hurt us (the tribe). If he admits there was a mistake made and re-enrolls on his own and start from that point forward don't fight for back-pay and continue this any longer. It needs to end. If Ronert doesn't have the decency to end this on his own and reinstate and is forced to then go for everything that's rightfully yours. Robert has the power to end this situation and allow Pala to move on.
Thank you 4:33, we the disenrolled are willing to talk and settle our issues in a peaceful manner. We have been denied over and over again first by the Pala EC , then by the Pala tribal members followed by the BIA and government officials that have been paid off. I truly would not like to go to court, but it would be interesting to see how far Rob went to keep us out. He is not alone, he is blindly served by the EC via stolen money from the tribe, government officials like Deutchke and Ebens at the BIA with manipulation of paperwork and several other county and city officials who turned a blind eye to his unlawful actions. Maybe this is the vehicle that must be taken in order to bring justice to light? The Brittan family is committed and United and we are not going away! Robert chose the wrong family to disenroll, we are warriors of justice and truth and will stop at nothing.
Again, thank Rick for your support!
@4:33 I agree 100%....@6:44 it will be interesting to see how far Robert is willing to play this out before he does the right thing and follows the Sec of Interiors final decision that M Britten was FULLBLOOD and any court will uphold a federal order that the tribe followed for 22 yrs then just decided to go against it. Is he really that hateful that he will allow Pala to be damaged by a court order just to hurt King and Willy and other members that go against his dictatorship? Time will tell and that's all it takes is time. Even Robert knows he couldn't pull off the disenrollment forever. COME ON ROB FIX THINGS. WE WANT PRE-DISENROLLMENT PALA BACK!!!!
You heard them Robert. They are willing to cooperate. Please re enroll them. Don't put our Rez at risk because of a old rivalry. If this goes to court it could be very bad for pala.
They should be enrolled anyway. They have more then enough documentation that proves it. If a court looks at the documents it will rule in there favor. Re enroll them before the 9th circuit does. If the court gets involved it will be bad for pala
There is no way Robert should stay in power even if the disenrolled get back in. Why should he be in the position to still rob the tribe? The EC should be changed from the top down. They shouldn't be rewarded for what they have done.
Recently Retired Federal Judge
I know what documents that have been submitted for review in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals and there is no way that any appeals Court
with an honest panel will vote ant other way except to vote in favor of the Plaintiffs in this case. The evidence is overwhelming as to why the disenrollment should have never happened in the first place.
And I have to agree with the above post as to the Pala EC should re-enroll before the 9th Circuit makes its ruling.
#-1, if the Circuit sides with the Plaintiffs, it will look better to that the Tribe has made an effort to end this case on it's own accord.
If there is nothing to back up the Pala EC's action , then their could be some real heavy sanctions imposed on the entire Band.
You must remember that this is a Federal Court and what they decide will become law as far as the Band and the BIA is concerned.
However in all the evidence that has been presented for review, their is nothing that supports the Pala Band as far as their actions on this issue. It is all based on theory on their part. But the Evidence is overwhelming as to the blood degree of said MB. And it is all documented as far as the U.S. Government is concerned.
I guess it is very important to keep records as the ones posted her and the ones that are presented as evidence for the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Panel. Good Job to who ever saved or obtained the information.
It has been years of research, mostly done by one or two people that have gone over all the archives they could and by asking for information that is available by the information act. It is amazing the thousands of records this person has gone through, but it is all because we have been wronged. In doing this research it has been found how much info that certain BIA officials and tribal leaders have tried to hide or have eliminated. Very sad the amount of power they have to hurt people.
Yes, thank you to that person and your awesome assistant. We know exactly who you are and that you have always shared that information freely with all MB descendants. I know you personally and feel lucky to have you on our side, the side of right and justice. Although we have been down a rocky road, our future is secure because the documents dont lie.
You are indeed privileged to be the one that heard the 9th Circuit Court will hear the case. Can you please send along to everyone on this blog how you heard. It should not be a secret now.
Share it with all of us. Our spirits are lifted by hearing this.
To "Recently Retired Federal Judge" posted at 2:08am (the bars just closed)
Your spelling is terrible and your legal reason is even worse. So go home sleep it off and try another persona. You are clearly not a retired federal judge.
You are wrong about me for sure. I spent over 15 years as a Federal Judge and I am surer that you are from the other side in this case.
Nice try though.
4:10 and 4:21 are the same person. In my opinion.
Retired Federal Judge, we can joust back and forth but it is not worth the time. Just the fact that you say I am from the other side is not language a Federal Judge would use.
You can keep propping up this blog and the people you deceive with your promises that the case will be reviewed.
When this all falls through, please have the courage to get back on this blog and say I lied and wasn't really a Federal Judge. I apologize.
That will work for me.
@5:19, why does anyone have to bow down to you? Who the hell are you?
@5:19 will you be willing to do the same when the case wins?
I think that it would wise for you to check the 9th Circuit calendar
before you continue to post any thing more.
Because the 9th Circuit has agreed to hear the Pala Case. It's being set for oral arguments. So 5:19, how do you like you words cooked before you eat them? Well done or rare.
Retired Federal Judge
You are thinking that because of the appeal on Cosentino that the federal government has the authority and right to intervene in tribal governmental business. The arguments within the opinion of the appeal to Cosentino rely on a logic that limits tribal sovereignty and decides how and why a tribe can govern themselves. I don't see the 9th Circuit siding with the Plantiffs, because the Cosentino appeal case goes against a long standing federal law scrutiny that reviews how "official capacity of tribal government officials" is understood in comparison to how tribal immunity is understood. The appeal to Cosentino is just a California State appeals case, the 9th Circuit is a federal case that supercedes State authority. Although the merits of how Cosentino and it's appeal are relevsnt, they will be scrutinized under federal interpretations and can be overturned. I believe that tribes have the right to decide how they want to govern themselves, be it negative or posituve, and the interpretation of what is deemed negative and positive should not be interpreted by people who are not part of the community, and especially in a court that has no jurisdictional authority to decide the future if how tribes can govern themselves. Tribal immunity is important becsusese it allows tribes to remain independent, free from outside interpretation of tribal governance. Tribal immunity is important because it coincides with the right to remain sovereign, interpreting what is the right or wrong official capacity of a tribal official is invading a tribes right to govern themselves, and greatly undermines the underlining ideology of how tribal sovereignty is understood and maintained not only under federal law, but within tribal communities where it is active and alive.
The 9th circuit only needs to rule to uphold the ASIA final decision on M Britten FULLBLOOD status not the tribes right to determine membership or sovereignty. They just have to back their governments ruling over a tribe that already decided and has followed it until the leader got upset with certain people and wanted them out of the tribe. This has nothing to do with a tribe determining membership or sovereignty it is one man pushing all this over personal reasons not blood degree,membership requirements or a tribes rights. Robert Smitb is not the tribe he cannot do what he wants and get away with it because the tribal members are afraid to speak up against him and lose their percap. That is why nobody will sign their name to anything to be sent out asking for help to other agency's.
Plus the Pala case that before the 9th Circuit is against the BIA and there employees who screwed up this issue in the first place.
Also, the sovereignty issue does not apply to the BIA the same way as it does the Tribe. This case doesn't even involve the Tribe directly.
It's the BIA that is refusing to make the Tribe abide by the 1989 FINAL decision by the ASIA. The BIA has no balls to stand by their own decisions and that is wrong.
The problem with the sovereignty issue is that the Tribes are using it to justify these dis-enrollments of true Native American Indians.
They use it like a club and beat the members like a red headed stepchild.
And that is wrong. They are abusing Sovereignty in ways that it was not intended to be used.Tribal leaders are using it against their own members to make them afraid of the leaders or face dis-enrollment.
The Government needs to fight this to be changed before it gets worse that it is now.
everone vote for eric Ortega,get howard out of here.Pete don't go as a write in, it will split the votes,that will help howard win.We need to get all lugos off the E.C.or it will get worse,howard wants all power,get ready rob next year he will run against you,you will lose.
Agree11:50. Something is going on most don't know about. Don't split the vote. Eric needs to remember who he's really related to. Nolasquez and Britten.
The ASIA is a position that is determined by the Executive branch of government, the BIA is an executive administrative drpartment. The rules and regulations that are introduced by the ASIA and the BIA are federal memorandums, not case or legislative law. Remember, the Legislative Branch of government has the power to veto Executive decisions and to create new federal laws, the Judicial branch decides whether or not the Executive orders and/or Legislative laws are Constitutionally sound. The catch is that the SC only hears a limited amount t if cases per year, and they pick and choose what is important dependent on their political persuasion. Currently, Indian Law cases are not priority nor are they being favored towards upholding tribal sovereignty. The thing about this mess is thst the ideal of tribal sovereignty ty is being shoved into a position where outsiders can determine, shape, and limit just how that inherent right will be executed in the future. Internsl tribal matters need to be fixed internally, or through Congress. The courts are limiting sovereignty, which affects the whole nation and each tribal community within the nation. The ASIA decision from 1989, although in favor of enrollment, is not the final say of how a tribe recognizes and determines itself. The problem is within, not without.
So many errors in 1:45. SMH
What the hell is wrong with you Members, everyone knows the History of Eric and his blood line being from Rincon. And now you are asking a True Cupeno and a Tribal Member not to run as a write in for Vice Chair seat. Why? are you afraid that Mr. Trujillo sr. might just win as a write in, he does have a lot of support from different Families on the Reservation. After a little research was done he would get any where from 250 to 325 clear votes.
3:40 show proof Eric is from Rincon,we will all vote for Pete Trujillo.We need to see it,just talk wont work.
@ 6:17 PM
If you are a Tribal Member from Pala then you would know that Eric is not the son of the father he is claiming.
You all complain about the EC and when someone decides to risk it all run for a seat on the EC that is from an original cupeno descendant you put your support on a person with questionable ties to the Cupeno People. And a person that has been accused of crimes against a minor child.
Everyone knows how close Eric and Robert are, and you all know that if Robert ask Eric to do something, he will do it without question.
This fact has been done over and over again.
I don't think that even showing you his birth certificate will change anything. So if that's how you feel then you go ahead and vote the way that you feel, but don't cry later when it comes to past that he is from the Garica side. You all have a chance to bring change to Pala but are you really wanting a change or are you just talk.
Show me my errors.
Now Smith will hold Eric Ortega Garcia hostage concerning his blood line and will use it to his advantage like he did with Howard Lugo Maxcey.
Just watch and see if Eric wins. That's another reason that the people are backing Pete as a write in.
Some of these posters are not using their heads on this one. Think about it before it's to late, voting is coming soon.
@ 1:33 AM,
You could be right on target here. He could use Eric to dis-enroll the Lugo Family and that's another reason not to elect Eric.
They know that Pete would never vote to dis-enroll anyone, not even the Lugo Family and that's why they don't want Pete to run even as a write in. Because if Pete where to win, that could spoil Smiths agenda. Think about it people.
Also someone posted earlier that may be someone should go and talk with Pete about his running for Vice, so I am going over to talk with him on Sunday afternoon, and if anyone is interested and with his approval I will let you all know what he has to say. So let me know what you want.
The 9th Circuit Court is conducting a hearing on an appeal. Only the matters of the appeal will be decided. Neither party us challenging the sovereign immunity of PBMI, so that will not be under consideration.
Yes you are right about the vote count and if P.T.SR. was able to reach out to some of the outside voters he would for sure win by a lot, that's if the election is not rigged.
I also actually did an accounting of the votes that he could possibly get and I was very surprised at the numbers that would favor him if he in fact does decide to run as a write in, they are very good indeed.
Has anyone talked to Mr. Trujillo sr. about this yet. And is their enough backing to get him involved in this election as a write ?
I know that there is a lot of rumors going around that he would win.
I just think that if this is what the Members want then lets do it.
If the backers are willing to do the campaigning for him they for sure need to get started asap. He will need signs made and word spreading.Don't wait until the last minute.
I guess I just don't get it. Why didn't someone from the Trujillo family nominate Pete to run at the regular meeting? Kilma nominated himself, why didn't Pete nominate himself. Too many unanswered questions here. Also, those of you who choose to run the bad on Eric Ortega, where is your proof??? This election is one of ho hum. what is the difference between Eric and Howard? NONE. Both kiss Robert's kupcha and do whatever Robert wants. PBMI has become the band of Kupcha Indians. Really. I saw a line of people at the bar the other night and was wondering what it was. the line was half the PBMI wanting to kiss Roberts kupcha. Some were even getting off on his shiwenevel.
WE NEED TO HEAR FROM PETE HIMSELF THAT HE IS WILLING TO RUN AS A WRITE IN FOR VC.AND IF HE DECIDES TO RUN THEN WE WILL GET STARTED ON CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM.SO WHAT DO YOU SAY PETE? ARE YOU WILLING AND ABLE TO TAKE THIS CHALLENGE ON, OR WHATS YOU THINKING ON THIS SUBJECT?
PLEASE RESPOND SO WE WILL KNOW WHAT YOUR INTEBTIONS ARE ,OK.
To those of you that do not know if Pete said he would run, if you look on the post below this one about Robert being sued and read through the comments you will see this one among some of Pete's comments:
"Anonymous PETE TRUJILLO SR. said...
OK then I will run for Vice as a write in.
Can someone spread the word as I can not campaign because of the back ground check.
Lets see all the supporters come out and help do this.
If we pull this off, I believe it will be a first for Pala.
Respectfully Posted by
Peter Trujillo sr.
October 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM"
There you see it in his words that he will run as a write in.
I talked to Robert, he said if Pete makes it he will still have to get a background check,to be in office.
OK, I am willing to run for the Vice Chairman spot if that's what the Members want. And as far as the back ground check, I have nothing to hide, so that's fine. I am willing to do what the will of the people of Pala Want. I will do the Job that is expected of me and will be fair in all decision making that requires a vote. I have lived here on the Reservation all of my life and I can see some of the Things that are outdated and should be updated so that they don't get worse than they are.
I know that it will be an uphill fight to get elected as a write in but I am willing to give it my best shot.
I am sure that everyone knows who I am, and who my parents are.
I do have some education under my belt as far as business goes. I worked for Ford Motor Co for over 9 years. I started as a lot attendant in the mid 70's and worked my way up to General Manager at the Vista Branch of Heller Ford. I also ran my own towing service for many years here in Pala, with contracts with the CHP, County Sheriffs
The Border Patrol, The San Diego County Corners office.
I live here in Pala with my wife of 34 years and our family of 4 kids and Great Grandkids.
I would be very proud to serve the Members of Our Reservation as their Vice Chairman, in fact it would be an Honor.
My father, Peter P Trujillo was involved a little, here and their with the Tribe ,but was mainly involved with the housing dept.
My Mother Betty Trujillo was the cook at the Pala Mission School for
many years . I really do ,with a sincere Heart care about our Reservation and all Tribal Members.
If I an elected I can without any doubt be fair with all members and listen to what you have to say with an open mind and an open Heart.
I also promise to do the job expected of me by the Members of the General Council.
I will sit on the EC board as your voice, the voice of the people.
I also as your elected official, will try to the best of my ability to do the will of the entire Membership and be fair in my decision making and voting process on issues that require the EC's vote.
I am my own person and I can not be swayed to do anything that may be against The Customs and Traditions of the Band.
I was raised to believe in those Customs and Traditions by my Dad and am thankful to him in doing so.
So Yes MY PEOPLE IT WOULD BE AN HONOR TO BE YOUR VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE PALA BAND OF MISSION.LETS MAKE PALA ONCE AGAIN A HAPPY RESERVATION.
VOTE FOR PETER F TRUJILLO SR. FOR VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS.THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
Respectfully Poster by,
Peter F. Trujillo sr.
For all those that are backing me for vice chairman, please don't be afraid to put your names on the post, instead of posting as Anonymous.
It would be nice to see the real and true backers of my running for the VC spot. Thank you for your support.
Peter f Trujillo sr.
Hey has anyone heard about the EC re-enrolling the disenrollee's?? That they are sending out letters. I guess they looked over Margarita's history again and count her as fullblood. If it's true I give praise to the EC for doing the right thing and moving in the right direction.
Have not heard anything nor received any letter.
I don't want to break your bubble but I doubt that this is true. I think it's just another way of making fun of the disenrolled. I really wish that that was true but highly doubt it. Remember we still have the same EC as we did when the dis-enrollments took place, and for them to do whats right is not to likely to happen.
Very happy to see that Mr. Trujillo sr. is serious about running for Vice Chairman. Mow all of those that wanted him to run need to support him and help to make this possible. And I mean all, so don't start to relax and do nothing. Help by spreading to word and make his signs, and call you friends and family members that don't live her and tell them to vote for Pete sr.
We know that its an uphill battle, but with a little help from all the one that support him we can do this. So please call all the people that you know that will be voting by mail and tell them who to vote for. This needs to be done because he will not have access to the outside voters. So he is counting on everyone to contact these members and let them know who to vote for.
IF true we want all are back percap,bonuses that we owed.If not Robert and the Ec can go Fuck themselfs
R and R
Hearings on apples are investigations on the merits of the decisions that created the appeal in the first place. Although soverignty immunity is not the sole purpose, the logic and discourse embedded within the merits of the arguments that decided the ruiling are, which is like a deconstruction of all legal reasoning and discourse so far. Affirming or reversing is based on the interpretation of how the law was applied, and ultimately is based on the ways in which federal law dictates it's legal discourse concerning Federal Indian law.
9:29 is not a brittian. We just want to be re enrolled. 9:29 is someone trying to make the disenrollees look greedy.
@ Peter, You can probably find out who the tribe goes through for background checks and get your own done, and then keep a copy for yourself and have three sent to them: certified, regular mail, and emailed, that way they cannot claim that they did not receive it. Wishing you the best of luck and may our ancestors be standing beside you through the whole thing to give you the strength necessary to face Robert and his cronies.
True 9:29 is not a Brittain we just want to be re-enrolled and start off fresh it's not about the money or back pay. For some in the tribe unwilling to stand up to the EC it is. For those on the EC willing to screw over tribal members and let it happen it is about the money.
Not really an argument. The appeal disputes the reasoning of the court in its decision to deny the motion for summary judgment and to grant the cross motion.
The immunity of the Band is not being challenged. If that was a claim it would be necessary to join PBMI as a party. It is the decision of the AS-IA that is at dispute.
Though the agency administrates federal Indian law, the jurisdiction is the standard of the APA which governs federal agencies not Indians.
Fine points to be sure but necessary to understand. Remand of the AS-IA decision is the desired remedy. Will that infringe on tribal sovereignty? The defendants argue that they are unable to craft a remedy that does not infringe on sovereignty.
Does the court have to take that into consideration? Only if the court decides to reverse the decision. It is not grounds for affirmation, but must be considered if there is a reversal and a remand ordered with instructions.
FUCK the P.B.M.I. E.C. ... They are unable to do anything that can be construed as "RIGHT". Please stop being so gullible, Robert will never admit what he did was wrong OR a mistake. So M.B. was a fullblood, then she is 1/2, and now a fullblood AGAIN?. WRONG!. She was born a fullblood, both parents were fullblood, and all her disenrolled descendents are legitimate 1/16 degree cupa blood. So for some to comment they just want to be reinstated and have a fresh start is chickenshit B.S. What you are saying is "I love you Robert" and you are A.O.K. with that fat bastard not only stealing your share of benefits that you are legally entitled to but your fine with him stealing all the others shares too, Well speak for yourself, and I will speak for myself, FUCK ROBERT, NIETO, PEREZ, MIRANDA, and KILMA.
I am not being gullible I am being hopeful. Yes the EC was wrong to dis enroll, but that does not mean they still can't do the right thing. If they are willing to re enroll instead of go through court then I am NOT going to argue. However it would take a lot for Robert to re enroll, so I will not hold my breath.
No disrespect to you, but dont buy in to any of this re-enrolling B.S.. someone is yanking your chain. And you will be holding your breath for a long time.
@OCT>23@6:17 PM in order to stomp out the rumors on Eric's blood maybe it would be a wise move to have a DNA done just to make sure that every thing is on the level concerning the blood degree of Garcia-Ortega. Or do you think that Eric would risk it in fear of losing every thing?
@ 10:43 am
I am not to concerned about the back ground check because I went through a complete back ground check when I was fighting to get custody of my Grandkids. They did a complete check of every thing and more, including finger prints, and I past it with flying colors.
pete just want you to know,we are all for you,your brothers and sisters.we do need a change on our res.everyone that reads this write peter Trujillo,as a write in.
For all of us that are going to vote for Peter Trujillo sr. as a write in for Vice Chairman we need to remember that Pete is running as a write in and we all need to make sure that we spell his name correctly on the write in space on the ballot so no one can dispute the vote for him. So write his name down on a piece of paper and take it with you when you vote. Print it in proper space for Vice Chair as follows= Peter f. Trujillo sr. Thank You for supporting Mr. Trujillo sr. for Vice Chairman.
Write in Pete 4 the right Vice Seat!
Roberts trying to take away who's water rights?? Macarro tried the same thing and failed! I
Here is your chance Pala Members, to put into office a man who has publicly stated that he believes in the Members and cares about all them and he is committed to do his best for the entire Tribe.
So if Pala Members are truly looking to start a healing process, here is your chance. VOTE FOR PETER TRUJILLO SR. AS A WRITE IN FOR VICE CHAIRMAN AND LET HIM BE THE PEOPLES VOICEON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE TRIBES HAS NOT HAD FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.HE IS HERE OFFERING HIS HELP TO THE MEMBERS AS A WHOLE AND COMPLETE TRIBE, AND HE BELIEVES IN YOU ALL.
VOTE FOR PETER TRUJILLO SR. AS A WRITE IN FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.
@ Oct 23@11:50 AM
Why would you ask Pete not to run in fear of splitting the votes. He is stepping up to bat for all the Tribal Members who asked him to do this, and you are asking him not to do this.
How about you put on your thinking hat and try again.
If Eric runs and wins, there will for sure be more Families dis-enrolled. Eric is not a Man of his word. He has proven to be a yes man for Robert Smith and you know it.
Eric will be used to dis-enroll the Lugo Family for sure. And all Smith has to do is ask Eric to do this and he will obey.
On the other hand you have Peter Trujillo who has gone through this dis-enrollment already with some of his Children and Smith knows that Pete would never make a motion to dis-enroll anyone, including the Lugo Family.
He has made a statement about how he believes in the Customs and Traditions of the Band that was instilled in him by his Father and said that he would not be swayed to go against these Customs and Traditions because he knows what they mean to the Tribe.
So why are you willing to risk this by asking Pete not to run as a write in Knowing the history of Eric's ties with Smith. Is it that you want another yes man as you vice chairman, instead of a man like mr. Trujillo who will stand up for what is right and be firm about it.
It's a no brainer to vote for Mr. Trujillo.
I truly hope that all the members of Pala will read this and see what the truth is and cast their vote for a true Cupa Man that Mr. Trujillo
is.We know that he is not a yes man to anyone, not even Robert Smith.
Pete if your running for V.C. why not show up on the Rez and start shaking hands,that way we know your for real.All this talk is taking away from the Cupa newsletter.For real.
Are you asking Mr. Trujillo to stop posting under the this article. If so then you are wrong. Besides there are over 80 comments here under the cupa news letter post and I count less about pete's running for the VC spot than any other post,there is also more about Eric's blood degree than there are about Pete running for VC.
And if you stop and think about what you are asking him to do only brings more readers to the site,so more are aware of the Cupa News Letter. And finally is Pete not a Cupeno Indian? Yes indeed he is.
I wonder if Sara D. will defend Robert Smiths Daughter, Victoria Smith.
She was arrested on 10/22/15 for giving false info to a Peace Officer & taken to jail.
This is according to Local Crime news and recent arrest in Pala.
May be he will just give the DA Bonnie Dumanis another big check like he did before from the Tribe.
What? a smith from Pala giving false information,that's a first!
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree or should we say San Feliepigs lay in their own slop and feces.
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