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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Agua Caliente Next Tribe Who Wants Their Land off Tax Rolls. CA will lose Taxes

The Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians has applied to take 138 acres of land off public tax rolls and consolidate it with parcels the tribe owns at the intersection of Interstate 10 and Highway 111 north of Palm Springs.

The transaction involves four parcels known as the Beylik property next to about 100 acres of the tribe's land that is already held in trust

“We understand there may not be plans for a casino at that site, but we're still concerned,” Schmidt said. “We want to know what would be developed there and how much would the state of California lose.”

Stand Up for California! wants all fee-to-trust real estate transactions to cease until there is reform to federal policy that allows “local government more voice in the decision,” Schmidt said.
“The tribe could build a business on the land and that business would be exempt to taxation. It's a loss to the state and we'd like to see reform of that process,” she said. “They already own the land and market control of the land … why do they need to put it in trust? Why not develop it and pay taxes?”

10 comments:

White Buffalo said...

Why not put the land into “trust” state of CA and the people who run our governments at the local and state levels have forgotten what the state has done to the people who were here first. It is known that back in the late 1840s and 50s that it was legal to summarily kill Indians in fact the state budget had allowances for over 100 expeditions. An expedition was another name for a party or posse of men whose intent was to kill Indians. It’s as simple that. One last tidbit I think it was McDougal our second governor who wrote a proclamation with the intent of extermination of Indian peoples. So good for the Indians who treat their people right, but I forget it is about the money.

Anonymous said...

Luckily, the Leivas line, not being Indian, didn't have to worry about such things...

Anonymous said...

Well White Buffalo,the Tribes don't mind killing the citizens that support the Casinos or the employees of the Casinos by exposing them to HUGE amounts of second hand smoke...and it is time for California to start taxing the purchases of the tribes that have these huge revenue sources...why tax exempt?...the Casinos are a multi-billion dollar business in California...they tell you that they aren't allowed to give free alcohol in the Casinos because California wont allow it...yet..California doesn't allow smoking in the workplace....so why do they pick and choose?...

smokeybear said...

Oh, leave us "Smoker's Alone!" The "Air" we breath, just being in the open air, is "Toxic!" Go to a "Non-Smoking Area" at the "Casino!"... "Enough Said!" I "Will Not" enter into a "Debate" on this subject. Your "Opinion" is yours, and your intitled to it. But don't be a "Mark Macarro" and try and force us "Smoker"s" to give up what we are entitled too. "Get the Drift?"

Anonymous said...

Sorry...but in California you are not allowed to smoke inside workplaces...and there are no real non-smoking areas in the casinos.....why should smokers have all the rights?...
I can be in a row of machines all by myself and all of a sudden a smoker lights up...why not be fair and make all casinos follow the rules of California?,,why don't you smokers all go outside?...you have no regard for people who don't want to breath your nasty smoke...maybe I should just sit next to you and continually fart...

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said...
Sorry...but in California you are not allowed to smoke inside workplaces...and there are no real non-smoking areas in the casinos.....why should smokers have all the rights?...
I can be in a row of machines all by myself and all of a sudden a smoker lights up...why not be fair and make all casinos follow the rules of California?,,why don't you smokers all go outside?...you have no regard for people who don't want to breath your nasty smoke...maybe I should just sit next to you and continually fart...

Well now, I wasn't going to debate this subject because I(we) have more pressing stuff to tackle: Like our being stripped of our "Birthrights and Heritage." But "You Do" have the right to sit next to me and "Fart!" Think if they tried to force you into not having that "Right? So if you execised your right to "Fart" next to me, I would move to a no "Fart Area!" All this amounts to is: You would like...I would like...We would like? We've "Smoked" for "Hundreds of Years," and 2nd hand smoke hasn't been the underlying problem with the health of this nation. And now we all breath "Toxic" air, (And that isn't going to stop anytime soon), from a multitude of sources, in everyday life. There is no even "Playing Field" here. It's going to be "Who" has the most power, and "Who" can stop "Who!" Your rights, or Smoker's rights? So "Enough" said on that "Subject!" I told myself I wasn't going their again, "But!"... So let's (PLEASE) keep our "Eyes" on the "Ball Here People," and work for our "Rights" that have been "Illegally" stolen from us.

Anonymous said...

The smoking issue has to do with Public Law 280. The Feds gave California criminal and civil jurisdiction over the tribes. The smoking laws are regulatory and have no power in Indian country. Now I'll teach you about the alcohol issue. As part of the original Gaming compacts the tribes agreed not to comp alcohol. That's all there is to it.

smokeybear said...

Sorry, but Public Law 280 doesn't address "Smoking!" They just make it up as they go. And for California Criminal and Civil Jurisdiction: They will not venture into "Civil and Human Rights Vioations," so that is "Moot!" They back the "Casino Indians" every "Illegal" move. So tell me: "How fair is that?" So if they have....Quote,"... "Jurisdiction," why don't they use it for the good of the "Oppressed Native American Indians" in their charge?" Again, no "Money" in it!

Anonymous said...

Smokey...I wasn't trying to take away your rights when I mentioned smoking..but can you understand a non- smokers side?...I really do believe that smoke causes health issues so I end up staying away from the casinos...it does give smokers more rights than nonsmokers...there really aren't any non smoking areas since there are no walls....plus if the employees need the jobs, they have no choice but to breathe in smoke for 8 hours a day...when you leave the casinos you smell like smoke, so the air filters can't be working too good...again, sorry, wasn't trying to piss you off...just my opinion.

smokeybear said...

Of course your entitled to your "Opinion," never said you "Weren't!" But the "Air" we all breath outside is "Toxic!" You go to a gas station and fill up: "You come away smelling like "Gas Fumes," and what you have just "Injested" is also "Toxic!" How about following a "School Bus" and you breath in that "Black Dense Smoke?"..."Toxic!"... Agent Orange, perfume, smoke stacks, and the list is "Endless!" Stop some of these, and then you can come back and talk to me about "Second Hand Smoke."