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Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Pechanga Holding General Meeting With Some Interesting Agenda Items

The Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians is holding a rare meeting in December.   They have a couple of interesting items on their limited agenda.

1. Will be asking the BIA to provide a service area for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.  This is curious, will they be providing services now for those they have forced BACK onto temporary assistance? They have created dozens of poorer families by disenrolling hundreds of their members

2. They will be discussing a water ordinance?   Interesting to note that Pechanga lost a water rights issue last year when it was pointed out to Congressional staffers that the tribe didn't notify allottees of their rights to the water or funds and didn't give them an opportunity to discuss.   

Guess they are looking to screw somebody again..

Dec. 4th Gen Mem Mtg[1]

34 comments:

White Buffalo said...

I want to personally thank Butch M. for providing the December agenda to this site; for though we have been treaded in the worst manor by our relatives it is good to know that the white man on the council has not forgotten us. We love you Butch, oh say hi to the Potato for me.

smokeybear said...

Well now, the "Kangaroo Court" of the "Corrupt" are going to ask the B.I.A. for something? Makes you wonder where they are going with this, and what their "Hidden Agenda" really is. I can't believe that they are all of a sudden being "Benevelant" to the needs of their membership, for they don't give a "Tinkers Damn" about the rights (or needs) of the members in their charge. So again, where are they going with this? You have got to know that their motives are "Suspect!" Their track record with injustice is well known, and I, for one, can't see anything good coming from this. There is something not right here.

'aamokat said...

I wonder why the Grand Potato never tried to run for tribal chairman. After all he is a self proclaimed know it all.

Talk about no choice at all, Mr. PotatoHead vs Corny.

smokeybear said...

How about these "Liars" being "In-sence-ative" to the needs of their membership? How about the "Greed and Self Interest" that radiates from the "Cancerous Growth" of "Injustice" from these 2 "Clowns?" With "Sovereignty" being the "Tool" of choice in "Destroying" the lives of legal "Native Americans" in their charge for nothing more then the "Almighty Buck!" These are "Grievous Acts" that "NEED" to be addressed! I question the "Motives" behind this December Tribal Meeting. I still think there is some sort of "Hidden Agenda" in the making, and nothing good will come of it. They "Never" do anything for the good of the membership, just for the good of the "Few." When have they ever cared about the "Poor,"... Never" So again, "Where are they going with this?" Are they going to try and "Blind Side" the B.I.A. with more "Lies?" You have got to know that there is something "Fishy" here. It "Smells" to high heaven. The question is: "What do they really want?"

Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see if they are going to try to squeeze allottees of water.

That will sit very well with Congress. The tribe looked like idiots last year and this would add fuel to the fire.

They have not discussed water with owners of land on the reservation.

Anonymous said...

What needy families. I don’t know a needy family that makes $20.000. A month. Pechanga has a running rule if you are not a member you can’t receive any benefits the tribes gets even from government agencies ask any of the Hunter family that are original allottees still living on the reservation. So is this service area is going to be like the golf course. They say they will sue this area for one thing and when they get it they use it for another.

smokeybear said...

You've got to admit that Mark Macarro and his Henchmen are a "Real Piece of Work." Liars, Thieves, and down right Criminals using "Sovereignty" as their weapon of "Choice!" So now again, they attempt to address the "Water Issue" in regards to "Allotee's Property? How many times do we have to beat down these "Criminals?" You have got to know that they make this stuff up as they go.

Anonymous said...

BEAT DOWN? Watch out SMOKEY BEAR is that a threat? Your ass will be banished from the reservation.State your real name and threat and see if you don't get banished(anyone on this site)!

White Buffalo said...

December 2, 2011 7:54 PM
Anonymous said...

BEAT DOWN? Watch out SMOKEY BEAR is that a threat? Your ass will be banished from the reservation. State your real name and threat and see if you don't get banished (anyone on this site)!

You know Mr. Annoyance, I mean Anonymous it is hard to take you seriously when you, yourself do not post your name. You talk a big talk there Mr. Smarty-Pants. Seriously do you think I care if I am banished from your little club? HELLO, I am one of the many you lying cheating bast!@#$, some of whom are family, disenrolled. You have sold your souls to the devil for what, a handful of money? My real name punk is Guero Nunez but I post as White Buffalo and if I decide to go to the land of my ancestors I will. Let me ask you something butt-wipe are you brave enough to give me my banishment letter personally or are you one of those sniveling little pricks who hides behind your little rent-a-cops. Oh tell your bend-over buddies hello.

'aamokat said...

"BEAT DOWN? Watch out SMOKEY BEAR is that a threat? Your ass will be banished from the reservation.State your real name and threat and see if you don't get banished(anyone on this site)!"

Smokey was talking about how we defeated them by holding up their water bill not making a threat.

However, although I can't speak for my cousin Smokey, I doubt he is very concerned about being banished.

It might be a good thing if he is banished for doing nothing wrong as he is an allotee with rights, like it or not, unlike some of the squatters who likely are not even Pechanga at all who led the charge against the Hunters.

In the long run, and maybe sooner than later, things like banishing people for no reason will end up coming back on those who oppress us.

Anonymous said...

He's a dumb ass typical tribal member, anybody know what the meeting was about?

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said...
BEAT DOWN? Watch out SMOKEY BEAR is that a threat? Your ass will be banished from the reservation.State your real name and threat and see if you don't get banished(anyone on this site)!

Get Real! You know exactly what I'm talking about, the "Water Rights Issue" that was "Beaten down. If a "Threat was Implied," then take it as such, for we "Will Not Allow" the "Water Rights" of "Allottees" to be "Ripped Away" fom us by a "Corrupt and Criminal Indian Nation" Like "Pechanga" for their in-sha-sous "Quest for Greed!" In "Essence,"...."Beat Down!" You want to take "Beat Down" out of "Context," and show your your "Ignorance," then go for it, for you have got to know: "This Guy Is Stuck On Stupid!"..."For Stupid Is, What Stupid Does, and this guy seems to "Open Mouth and Insert Foot" more often then not. You might even be a"Tribal Member" trying to "Justify" all the "Corrupt and Illegal Acts" that have been brought against us "True Native Americans" for "Nothing More Than Greed!" Your worthless comments are nothing more then "Dribble," and "Will Not" sway are fight for our rightfull place as members of our membership. Your comments are "Lame and Without Foudation!"

Anonymous said...

I guess the anonymous who called the other anonymous a dumbass couldn't read the AGENDA that was posted???

No wonder you guys don't get very far...

Anonymous said...

I meant the outcome of the meating DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Meating ? WTF oh brother...

Less talking on this site and more school.

Anonymous said...

You guy's need to stay off the site,you make us look bad with your disenrollment non-sense.

If it helps regarding issues thats one thing,but when you run to the newspaper with legal issue's that are so stupid it makes us look bad!

EXAMPLE: Billy bob smokes crack and does not like are family and disenrolled us ,johnny boy is a tribal member because he was married to aunt betty in 1955 but she was adopted. (congress help).

Jethro

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said...
You guy's need to stay off the site,you make us look bad with your disenrollment non-sense.

Who is "Us?"...And how does this "Involve You? This makes you look bad...."HOW?" If you are a "Casino Indian," that would explain it. And this "Disenrollment Issue" isn't "Even" non-sence. Our rights have been "Stripped" from us "Illegally," so your "Insensitive Dribble" doesn't wash!

billy bob said...

Again leave the legal battle's to people that no what they are talking about!

Stand on the side line and be a cheerleader ok,smokey?

Anonymous said...

Sit on the bench with John Macarro!

Anonymous said...

Hey wise ass with the comments how the person spells, GET A LIFE ASSHOLE1

Anonymous said...

Yes, cursing is so much better than spelling to get one's point across.

Now two posters look stupid...

Anonymous said...

Haha jajajaja hey asshole is that the only word you disenrolled people know? Oh and meat?

Anonymous said...

I forgot (congress help)a crackhead tribal council member has it in for us!

Make a new law Congress,determine membership (if council is smoking crack)!

White Buffalo said...

Hey “Billy-Buff-The-Knob-Bob” why are you attempting to cause decent? I wonder who you are because you do have a problem with which words to use when you write a comment; for example you write, “Again leave the legal battle's to people that no what they are talking about” well Knob you should use “know” instead of “no”. I have younger nieces and nephews who know better than to make such a simple error. I think you need to go back to school and get your GED that way you have something to hang on the wall. Or put in your dresser next to your crack pipe.

Anonymous said...

That was Raymond Jr. it all adds up to the way talks.

smokeybear said...

You have got to know that with the amount of people using "Anonymous" it is hard to tell who is with us, or who isn't. There are those of you that do give good insight, and we appreciate it, but there are those that are "Stuck on Stupid" and come across with "Lame Statements" that doesn't even make sense. How about you guys that use "Anonymous" pick a name to post under? It could be as simple as: Just interested, or maybe... want to know, or maybe... concerned, or be creative and choose your own? By doing this it will allow us to have a better understanding of who is with us in our fight, and who is the "Baffoon," with no "Redeaming Qualities," who is trying to misdirect our quest for "Justice" in a world of "Injustice" at the hands of these "Corrupt and Criminal Tribal Leaders." Just go to, Name/URL and post under your chosen name. We do appreciate your insight, but you need to "Pick a Lane to Drive in!" You need to be recognized for the good, not the bad.

smokeybear said...

EXAMPLE: Billy bob smokes crack and does not like are family and disenrolled us ,johnny boy is a tribal member because he was married to aunt betty in 1955 but she was adopted. (congress help).

Jethro

Obviously you know the "Tribal Council," but their names have been changed to "Protect The Innocent!"

smokeybear said...

Does anyone remember that song:
"Eve of Destruction?" (Probably not spelled right). Kinda says it all!

smokeybear said...

Merry Christmas, my brothers. (yes I said "Christmas"), for our nation was founded "Under God!"

Anonymous said...

Nation was founded on murder, theft,and greed.

Anonymous said...

BEAT DOWN? Watch out SMOKEY BEAR is that a threat? Your ass will be banished from the reservation.State your real name and threat and see if you don't get banished(anyone on this site)!

Smokey it is joe liska or sometimes referred to as WARPONY who is Anonymous

Anonymous said...

EGO has been his dangerous game
not hope

smokeybear said...

Smokey it is joe liska or sometimes referred to as WARPONY who is Anonymous.

Joe, why go anonymous? Your one of us. I have a pretty good idea that they know exactly who I am. But thats "O.K., I really don't care. If they don't, let them work at finding out who I am. I'm an "Allottee" and that should count for something. The "Corrupt and Criminal" elements at "Pechanga" are starting to realize the momentum we are generating and they are getting worried. So, just know, I'm not going away anytime soon, and our fight for "Justice" is "Real!"

smokeybear said...

Stand on the side line and be a cheerleader ok,smokey?

"Like that is going to happen anytime soon!"...."Negativety," what a "Concept!" You that are "Stuck on Stupid" use terms like: Just go away, tail between your legs and the like are really "Lame at Best," and won't be taken "Serious."