Friday, February 5, 2010

Pechanga Announcement on Theft. No Mention of Their Own Theft of Health Insurance from Disenrolled Tribal Members

Interesting choice of the word "victim" by the Pechanga Tribal Council. There is no mention of "victimhood" when they discuss those they disenrolled. Pechanga has defrauded those terminated Native Americans of more than $12 MILLION in lost health insurance over the past four years.

If Pechanga will cheat their OWN, won't they cheat their customers?

FROM THE PECHANGA TRIBAL COUNCIL:


Dear Friends:

We wanted to be the first to inform you that today, the Riverside County Superior Court indicted Ryan Robinson, former CFO of the Pechanga Resort & Casino and the Pechanga Tribal Government, and James Riley, the insurance agent of record for Pechanga, on charges of grand theft, commercial bribery, and money laundering against Pechanga. In total, Robinson and Riley are charged with defrauding Pechanga out of more than $4 million.

Today’s announcement was the direct result of a joint investigation by the Tribal Council, PDC, and Gaming Commission into misconduct by these individuals. Because the integrity of the Pechanga Tribe and its operations is paramount, we acted quickly to conduct a thorough, independent investigation and provide law enforcement with all of the evidence we gathered.

No guests, Team Members, or business partners were affected by this fraud – the Tribe was the sole victim. The fraud perpetrated involved property and casualty insurance.

We will continue to assist law enforcement with this matter. In order to protect the integrity of the case and to allow the justice system to determine the outcome, we cannot comment further.

Sincerely,
Pechanga Tribal Council

79 comments:

Anonymous said...

How is it that the Pechanga Tribal Council can use integrity in its memo with a straight face?

Andrew Masiel, integrity?

Butch Murphy, integrity, Mr. Splinter Group himself?

Anonymous said...

They meant to use integrity to point out that none of the tribal members were caught.. or were there any.

Any family's lose their position in the PDC?

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barking spider said...

bull crap

cow pie said...

tribal council monkeys,,monkey investigation,,crooks investigate crooks,,

pechanga virgin said...

I agree!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Press Enterprize has done a story on this. If you want to leave a comment then go to pe.com

Anonymous said...

thats odd I have seen the dark haired guy before and I don,t live up there or go to the casino mm.

Anonymous said...

Hey,,,maybe the ex-CFO knows about the illegal things that the tribe does and will turn States evidence against the tribe...he has to know all the dirty little secrets RIGHT???...

Anonymous said...

Michelle Markstrom is the girlfriend to Ryan Robinson... what did she do to help him? She is an officer for the Pechanga Development Corporation. How did Ryan change jobs from the casino to the tribe without her or her family and her friends on council.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible that Sarah Burge of the Press Enterprise was told by her superiors to only take the story the Pechanga is giving out?

Do NOT look further into the "Pechanga Connection"? How is it that a guy she's dating could do this under her nose? Did she not wonder where his extra money was coming from?

Did, Sarah, Dig!

shadow warrior said...

WAIT FILL US ALL IN HERE,,IS MICHELLE MARKSTROM A TRIBAL MEMBER?

AND WHAT JOB DOES SHE HAVE AND RYAN IS HER CURRENT BOYFRIEND?

follow the money trail said...

omg officer pdc ,,,THERES MONEY IN A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT,,,MORE THEN 4 MILLION,,

'aamokat said...

Yes, Michelle is a tribal member and she is on the Pechanga Development Corportation (PDC), the board that oversees the casino for the tribe, so she is an elected official of the tribe so one would think she should know what is going on.

Anonymous said...

I smell a first felony arrest for a tribal member coming,anyone else feel that?

Anonymous said...

markstrom is that the splinter group or a questionable group when it comes to membership?

Anonymous said...

1. Fletcher

2. Ibanez

3. Duncan

4. Gard

5. Arellano

6. Orozco

7. Markstrom

8. Burbee

Anonymous said...

man trash talk on pe.com over that article,

Anonymous said...

If Markstrom comes from the same line as fletcher and ibanez, then their line is really not questionable. They come from Christina Guavish who is a Pechanga person. Her grandparents were there back in the 1700s beforethe res was created and she's the neice of the other guavish line who is also a pechanga person.

Anonymous said...

1873,heres list ,john magee,jesse teel,geronomo medran,juan garcia,louis orden,jose champkins,vecinto ladrone, juan paubin,rocencio janjac, elevano, coparupit,anselmo nesicat,bital atasia,ciatano checol, anturaceo cuilish,nicholas hamber,juan janjac,heban nosich,leono janjac jose jaguez,bernardino hambre,doreto hambre,leno caparupit,fernando sevall,josesantuz capurepez,jose nasheo janjac,jesus janjac,santiiago andrea,jose sido merdedore,felipe ajac,jose anto,sal ajal,andreas doca,augustin guajas,pasicico flaco,jose seriano,lorenzo copurapez,gregorio naclar,balladina cuivas,catulina atache,gariel tasobol,joseffa tasobol,rocia tosobol,guermo lopez,samwell panben,pablo nosea,gabreal verdego,azulea cuyote,andres tortuga,achano tortuga,ysidio tosobol,locencio nesicat, thats it

i see no guavish here which person are you from?

the sky is the limit said...

let me guess michelle markstrom was a target for disenrollment so her and her boyfriend where going to get money from the casino one way or another!

Anonymous said...

I think someone already mention that's not a complete list.

fact seeker said...

That list is from a 1873 court order to evict the original temecula indians and put them on what is now called the pechanga reservation.

THIS IS A LEGAL COURT DOC!so what your saying is the COURT forgot to put your family name on it?

THATS CALLED HEARSAY IN COURT,I understand there was some poor record keeping and indians scattered thru out the lands but to say someone was temecula indian back in the 1700s when nobody was put on the rez yet (and surely you would be on that 1873 list if your ties were so strong as you say)

ARE WE TO DISMISS THE COURT ORDER AND LEGAL PAPERWORK NOTICE OF EVICTION?

IS THIS WHY NOBODY RESPONDED TO SADESTDECENDANTS QUESTION ON PECHANGA .INFO? SEEKING ANSWERS?

BY THE WAY I WILL FIND A WAY TO POST THE 10 PAGE EVICTION LETTER.

Anonymous said...

WHILE YOU ARE AT IT; POST THE DOCUMENT LISTING WHO ARE NOT PECHANGA DESCENDANTS. MASIEL? LEYVAS? BASQUEZ?
JOAQUIN CONTRERAS WAS A MEXICAN...HE HELPED HIMSELF TO LAND.

YOU SPEAK ABOUT LISTED SO MANY MEXICANS, SPANISH, FRENCH;ESCALLIER
A MEXICAN BRIDGE BUILDER, ETC.
MAGEE?

THAT LIST WAS LOADED WITH PREDATOR-OPPORTUNIST. MANY WERE 'GIFTED' BY
PICO...FOR SERVICES AND FAVORS RENDERED.

fact seeker said...

POST A LIST OF WHO IS NOT TEMECULA INDIAN,THAT WOULD BE AROUND HALF THE TRIBE DON,T YOU THINK?

Anonymous said...

I think aamokat pointed out the fact that the eviction list you have lists about 50 names yet there were about 300 Indians evicted. Additionally, you might have missed "augustin guajas", from your list which I would guess is Augustine Guavish who was Christina Guavish's father and the brother of the other Guavish line. On top of all that, as you mentioned records were not well keep back then especially for Indians with numerous spelling errors due to language barriers and as the Hunters and from what Dr. Johnson found individual Indians names frequently changed over time as the mission baptized and renamed many of them.

fact seeker said...

Thats great thank you,I see the name and your right about the spelling and some people on the list were heads of the households not indian like john magee.

'aamokat said...

Yes, the Indian agent Dryden in his report about the eviction from the old Temecula village sites stated that there were about 300 Indians evicted.

Notice the list posted on this thread is almost all men and yes John Magee was married to an Indian and not an Indian himself.

Look at the list, it only has about four women listed on it does that mean the whole tribe consisted of over 90 percent men?

So this list is incomplete and should not be the sole determination of who belongs and who doesn't.

I would say it can be used along with the allotments, census records, probate records, etc and the more records families are on, the better case they have to show they belong.

Why are some people trying to exclude people anyway as isn't that what the tribe has been doing, excluding a lot of the people who post on this blog?

Anonymous said...

How come the tribal member that was stealing the tips from the workers at the Casino never got arrested?...isnt that ciminal??..or is it only criminal when the tribe itself is stolen from?...and how about all the patrons that get ripped off each day by fixed slots??and who watches over the slots?..gaming commision that is ALSO TRIBAL!!!

spider man said...

I heard that happened with this employee who had a birthday and a tribal member held her birthday money and when time to give her the money half of it was gone according to other person who saw twice as much!They say that member had a gambling problem(true story)

Anonymous said...

To the gauvish member who posted I believe you are a current member,my question is do you like what your doing to your real blood ?Do you think that your better then all of us because your a member ?And what about the sorry ass member who called tribal rangers on there own blood?
you should shoot yourself in the head and end your own life for disrespecting your own blood!


You do not deserve to live or be indian!

Anonymous said...

NOT INDIAN..MEXICAN

satan said...

They are dead inside already.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, just an FYI I'm not a tribal member I'm in the moratorium, and just because I'm pointing out facts about families doesn't mean I'm some evil person. This is actually a good example of why some tribal members don't want to help us. Just look at how mean you get without an facts, sounds like something that happened to the Mirandas and Hunters. When will we learn we need to make friends with tribal member not make them our enemies.

#33 said...

The OTHER GUAVISH LINE they keep refering to is MICHELA GUAVISH #33.

Anonymous said...

Michella Guavish is the sister of Stantiago Guavish and Augustine Guavish (line #33).

Anonymous said...

SAN LUIS REY

Anonymous said...

Ok, good talk, I'm not going to argue because the reality is none of us know who was and wasn't there at the time, one document lists this and another one doesn't, so that’s why you have to use a variety of documents.

I think aamokat put it best above "Why are some people trying to exclude people anyway as isn't that what the tribe has been doing, excluding a lot of the people who post on this blog?"

I personally believe that there was once really just one tribe of Luiseno Indians with different family groups living in different areas; prior to the Spanish coming to America they didn’t identify themselves as Pechanga, Soboba, Pala, etc. Then the Spanish got here, the Indians were first pushed in many different direction as the settlers stolen their land; families were likely split up. The Indians settle as best they could and then Spanish mission split them up based on their proximity to one of the missions. Many of the Indians were probably dislocated from large parts of their families; they likely traveled to find a place of comfort whether with friends or family. On top of that you had people keeping records that were not that interested in conserving perfect records for Indians as they were considered lower class. Do you really think the record keeper cared if the put Pechanga, Temecula, or San Luis Rey as the Indian’s tribe title? I’m sure there were also language barriers. This is one of the reasons I believe that those that can prove, such as the Hunters, they were in the area back 100 to 200 years ago should be included as Luiseno Indians from the Pechanga Band/reservation.

fact seeker said...

First of all this is fact seeker,someone else stated san luis rey,they have more info then me and I was just talking about the list so maybe this person wants to share more?

t'eetilawuncha! said...

Second poster above, Thank You.

O Pechanga said...

Speaking of language barriers:

Depositions taken in the LUISENO languange in 1915 PROVED that Paulina Hunter was indeed Pechanga.

The enrollment committee to the words, written on Prison writing paper by a man born over 30 years AFTER Paulina Hunter died, over the sworn testimony of Pechanga Indians who KNEW Paulina Hunter.

Anonymous said...

ATTENTION ,,,,JOE LISKA GETS A SECOND HEARING IN FEDERAL COURT MARCH 8 1000 AM COURTROOM 1 JUDGE IRMA GONZALES.

BECAUSE JOE LISKA ONLY SERVED DONNA BARON THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WILL ASK THE JUDGE TO DISMISS BANISHMENT CHARGES AGAINST THEM,,,,,,,JOE LISKA IS ASKING FOR SUPPORT AND OTHERS TO BE THERE!

Anonymous said...

900 front street san diego ca southern district of california HE ask for any airro memebers to attend.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the details of Joe Liska's case? What exactly is he saying in his lawsuit? What makes him any different from any other person in the moratorium? Is his family that are tribal members trying to help him get in? Doesn't the tribe have the right to banish people from the tribe or reservation?

I smell a tribal member said...

HE QUESTIONS WHO BANISHES HIM AND THE INDIAN CIVIL RIGHTS ACT,AND CRIMINAL JURISDICTION,IT DOES EFFECT EVERYONE AND YES THE TRIBE CAN BANISH PEOPLE,BUT IF YOUR HERE TO DEFEND THE TRIBE YOUR ON THE WRONG SITE!

cassandra greek profit of doom said...

THE TRIBE IS SCARED TO DEATH OF ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE GATHERING IN A FEDERAL COURT ROOM ,,LOOK AT THE RIVERSIDE PROTEST IN FRONT OF THE COURT THE WERE F,,,KING SCARED DON,T LET THEM FOOL YOU,,,I BET THERE WELL BE SOME POSTS COMING SOON TO TRASH JOE LISKA !!!!!!

front street boy said...

THE US ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE WILL BE PULLED INTO THIS HEARING (REGARDING CRIMINAL CHARGES )


(ALWAYS GET IT ON PAPER)


front street justice

Anonymous said...

Civil Rights Statutes

Civil Rights Home

Federal Civil Rights Statutes

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242 - Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 245 - Federally Protected Activities

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 247 - Church Arson Prevention Act of 1996

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 248 - Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 844(h) - Federal Explosives Control Statute

Title 42, U.S.C., Section 3631 - Criminal Interference with Right to Fair Housing

Title 42, U.S.C., Section 14141 - Pattern and Practice




Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241
Conspiracy Against Rights


This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).

It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.

JOE LISKA said...

WATCH YOURSELF BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT ME,I NO A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT BUT GO AHEAD GIVE IT A SHOT!!!!!!

JOE LISKA said...

Liberty is a concept of political philosophy and identifies the condition in which an individual has the right to act according to his or her own will!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

TITLE 18 > PART II > CHAPTER 237 > § 3771§ 3771. Crime victims’ rights
How Current is This?(a) Rights of Crime Victims.— A crime victim has the following rights:
(1) The right to be reasonably protected from the accused.
(2) The right to reasonable, accurate, and timely notice of any public court proceeding, or any parole proceeding, involving the crime or of any release or escape of the accused.
(3) The right not to be excluded from any such public court proceeding, unless the court, after receiving clear and convincing evidence, determines that testimony by the victim would be materially altered if the victim heard other testimony at that proceeding.
(4) The right to be reasonably heard at any public proceeding in the district court involving release, plea, sentencing, or any parole proceeding.
(5) The reasonable right to confer with the attorney for the Government in the case.
(6) The right to full and timely restitution as provided in law.
(7) The right to proceedings free from unreasonable delay.
(8) The right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim’s dignity and privacy.
(b) Rights Afforded.— (1) In general.— In any court proceeding involving an offense against a crime victim, the court shall ensure that the crime victim is afforded the rights described in subsection (a). Before making a determination described in subsection (a)(3), the court shall make every effort to permit the fullest attendance possible by the victim and shall consider reasonable alternatives to the exclusion of the victim from the criminal proceeding. The reasons for any decision denying relief under this chapter shall be clearly stated on the record.

Anonymous said...

I am pretty sure I just asked a few questions to understand what is going on with the case. Correct me if I'm wrong but the case seems more about the banishment then becoming an enrolled member of the tribe. Which is all I was really wondering.

joe liska said...

(just a banishment case)HELLO ARE YOU A TRIBAL MEMBER?ARE YOU AWARE SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE JUST BEEN BANISHED A FEW WEEEKS AGO?JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT?

ARE YOU AWARE PEOPLE CAN,T GET ACCESS TO THEIR LAND THAT THEY OWN?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TEMECULA INDIAN ARE BANISHING PEOPLE AND RUNNING THE TEMECULA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS GOVERNMENT AND RUNNING THE CASINO?????

DUH IT SEEMS LIKE ITS JUST A BANISHMENT CASE OF SOME FOOL WHO GOT HIMSELF BANISHED!

joe liska said...

THERE ARE PLAYING A DEADLY GAME WITH THE COMPACT!!!!!!!

NIGC reaffirms shutdown of Meskwaki casino
Friday, September 12, 2003

The Meskwaki Tribe's casino in Iowa will remain closed until a federally recognized leadership gains control of the facility, federal gaming regulators said on Thursday.

In a final decision, the National Indian Gaming Commission extended the shutdown of the casino. The three members of the commission said they would consider changing their minds if the tribe proved it was satisfying federal law.

"The goal of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act to promote strong tribal governments is best served by requiring that tribes follow the rule of law, in this case, by having federally recognized leadership," NIGC vice-chairman Nelson Westrin said in a statement. "Allowing the unrecognized faction to retain control of an operating casino would create instability and a harmful precedent in Indian country, ultimately undermining the integrity of Indian gaming."

banished fool said...

I AM ASKING THAT THE UNITED STATES GAMING COMMISSION BE PRESENT AT MY HEARING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DON,T MISS THE SHOWDOWN!

(JUST SOME FOOL WHO GOT BANISHED)

Anonymous said...

1441 L. Street NW Suite 9100, Washington DC 20005 Tel.: (202) 632-7003 Fax: (202) 632-7066 Email: info@nigc.gov

Anonymous said...

So I guess that is a "yes" that the case relates to the banishment. I'm just asking a question you don't have to get upset over it. I'm not a member, nor was I aware of any recent banishments or the reason for them. If you like you could provide that information so that I am aware.

BASTARD NATION said...

you are a member because everybody is aware of the recent banishments,

I AM SORRY THAT IT HAS TO COME DOWN TO THIS ,I AM WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE NIGC IF THEY WILL ATTEND MY HEARING.

BUT WHEN YOU TRIBAL MEMBERS CUT PEOPLES THROATS AND STAB THEM IN THE BACK WITH SOVEREIGNTY AND LAUGH ABOUT IT YOU GOT IT COMING.

Anonymous said...

JOE LISKA said...
Liberty is a concept of political philosophy and identifies the condition in which an individual has the right to act according to his or her own will!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

How does this statement make any sense:

"you are a member because everybody is aware of the recent banishments"

So you are saying that every person other than tribal members knows about recent banishment? Does that really make sense? As I said I am not a tribal member and I'm not aware of any recent banishments. The only people that I've heard that has actually been banished from the reservation include you, which I read on here, and a few of my very distant relatives, but there were some criminal issues with them and the state so I didn't think to much of it.

joe liska said...

When you make mothers cry and kick their babies out of their indian school and tell them to go away,you got it coming!

Anonymous said...

Ya me and arlene macarro banished,she,s got more balls then mark!

SOME HOW NOW I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAID I CAR LOAD OF GUYS TOLD HER TO SHUT UP OR THEY WOULD SNAP HER NECK!

Anonymous said...

ALOHA ARELENE,,,

Anonymous said...

ALOHA ARELENE,,,

Anonymous said...

TELL DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER WHATS UP,,,,,TELL HIM TO COME TO THE PECHANGA REZ GOOD HUNT HERE RUFF,RUFF

Anonymous said...

message for OWNER of this site will you do an article on my hearing so i can post it all over?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I think that a great idea, I'm interested to hear about how it goes and the basis of your case. I don't know tribal law that well so I'm interested. I am somewhat surprised that a tribe needs a reason to keep people off their reservation; it seems like if they own the land then they should be able to invoke trespassing laws, but like I said I don't really know the laws, plus I don't know the details of your case.

time bandit said...

THEY HAVE TRESPASS LAWS BUT NO TRIBAL COURT,THE US COURTS CAN,T ENFORCE TRESPASS BECAUSE THE PERSON COMMITED NO CRIME ON US SOIL,THEY CAN ENFORCE FELONIES.

THEY DON,T NEED A REASON FOR ANYTHING THATS WHY WE ALL HAVE COMPLAINTS.

THEY CAN MAKE A LAW STATING NO PINK TENNIS SHOES ON THE REZ OR YOU WELL BE BANISHED.

pony said...

THE SPERM WHALE IS THE LARGEST MAMMAL ON THE EARTH HIS THROAT IS ONLY LIKE 5 INCHS IN DIAMETER (SMALL)

YOU NO WHY HIS THROAT IS SO SMALL?

BECAUSE THATS JUST THE WAY IT IS!!!!

O Pechanga said...

I apologize to my readers who have to suffer when fools post stupid comments. I leave comments open so that we can learn as we go.

If Joe Liska will send the details of the hearing to: originalpechanga2@yahoo.com I will post on it. If you can send me an attachment of the paperwork I will work with that.

Don't know who posts the stupid stuff like the sperm whale comment, but thats the way it goes.

If Joe Liska would put his best videos back on Youtube, I'll post them again.

Anonymous said...

I didn't mean to imply that it was fair. I'm just trying to understand things. For example if I didn't want someone on my property I could call the police and the police would make them leave. Additionally, country's have laws that don't just allow anyone onto their soil.
I am surprise that you said "THE US COURTS CAN,T ENFORCE TRESPASS BECAUSE THE PERSON COMMITED NO CRIME ON US SOIL". Are you saying that the reservation is not US soil? It was my understanding that the US government simply holds reservations in trust for the tribes but legal it's still US soil. I'm not surprised that the US Court can't do much because of tribal sovereignty and I think in generally basis trespassing would only result in removal, which the tribal has rangers that could probably do that. But again I’m just trying to understand things.
I do have a question for you, if you win your lawsuit what will happen? You will be able to enter the reservation, or are you suiting to win more than that?

Anonymous said...

hey joe keep up the good work, these dummies that dont know anything shuld read up on everything, then make a comment! i will be at the hearing.Banishment from what belongs to you? what a bunch of crap, they stuck thier foot in thier mouth this time!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Good luck joe i hope the best for you and any other family that has been banished let them know what is right my famly will be with you

Anonymous said...

Indians; all with aid and abettment of Indians who were indoctrinated by Missions.
MEXICO;first acting as sub-agent to
Spain to subdue and enslave Indians.
PICO devils.

MEXICO TAKES CALIFORNIA FROM SPAIN. PICO infects California with sperm..I kid you not!
Actually, Spain did its devilish work first; then Mexico. French, Italians, many ethnicities working 4 Spain, Mexico, etc. and themselves began infecting women.

When the so-called "United States"
entered the fray with Mexico to complete its theft of what is known as California, Pico engaged in a land grab;gifting his ass kissers 'grants.'

He sent his agents; Escallier;French; one ex. Another;Contreareas;Mexican, to inhabit different regions to 'seed' new populations. In fact, these groups were known as the seed
planters; this explains why so many of our female ancestors had so many children by so many "husbands."

Bogus council is comprised of
bogus Indians who are using color of bogus sovereignty to cover their thefts of birthrights of legitimate Pechanga descendants.

Much more to say...as you can see, I continue to make friends and influence people!

Bogus council is not Tribe..Illegally enrolled Mexicans are not Tribe; Hungarian whiskey Palinkas not legitimate tribe descendant...many many more.

Oops...forgot about the Casino factor..any one notice how many ...... are involved in the Casino-Enrollment fiasco?

Enough for now..

Comments welcome! LOL

GOD BLESS YOU! and....GOOD LUCK!

LOL
p.s. Only me and punk in car when threats made. Rob Schmidt is fully aware of what cowardly punk says and does; but he was in car day before with another man; they saw and heard what punk said and did.

Anonymous said...

Does the punk's name have the initials V.R. and is he related to Macarro?

The infamous so called journalist who insults Indian women who dare to disagree with what Pechanga has done?

Anonymous said...

VICTOR ROCHA not journalist; just poser punk with website.

Anonymous said...

who,s rob schmidt,damn feel all that luv for victor,