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Thursday, July 21, 2011

Has the Pechanga Tribe Broken Their Moratorium or Just Tribal Law?

Sources on the Pechanga Reservation in Temecula are saying that there has been a new member added from Sacramento.  This is an interesting twist.   The Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians have had a longstanding moratorium on new members.

We DO know that former Enrollment Committee chair Bobbi LeMere was rewarded for her vote to eliminate an entire family of now 178 members, with her family members being brought in.  A small reward for putting two entire families out of the tribe, totally 25% of the membership.

Current tribal law is for no new members.    Who benefits from getting in a family member?   Did it have anything to do with the termination of PDC execs?

75 comments:

Anonymous said...

A NEW MEMBER WHO WAS IT?

Anonymous said...

Thats fucking BULL SHIT!

Anonymous said...

her name is casey anthony?

Anonymous said...

Liska is drinking again... On the issue at hand. Selective enforcement of laws denies equal protection.

Anonymous said...

What moron would bring up Casey Anthony in a discussion of tribal moratoriums?

Anonymous said...

No liska is not drinking thank you have a good day and nice life!

Anonymous said...

Selective enforcement of laws denies equal protection.

Whats That? Laws where haha?

Anonymous said...

When you judge another you don't define them, you define yourself. ~Wayne Dyer --


Back to the MORON statement FUCK YOU!

my two cents said...

All joking aside I have not had a drink in almost a year , and not to trash anyone in this room but it might help some people to get past some things that have happened here and move on (To stop drinking).

Anonymous said...

Then it's just immaturity rather than over-imbibing?

Anonymous said...

Humor not immaturity ,maybe very dry.....but as you can see some people get very upset here.I like that ( over-imbibing?)

I enjoy your posts.

Anonymous said...

Let's just say it another notch on the belt of the law less Splinter group. They will continue to break tribal or non-tribal law to prove they are as of now in charge. It really doesn't matter who was enrolled as is the fact they broke tribal law. I'm positive its not going to end with only one!

Anonymous said...

Well, moratoriums and any of them do what they did very wrongdoing so it sound like it time for them to leave let someone do while they back off before they lose there tons of money. Well I think there is way can come back against them before or later it not matter who you work for them . Everyone knew it what going happen later! But it never will give up ever remember that where belong! Till god call us back in when it right time no matter how long take it ok who care!

Anonymous said...

Did the enrollment office enroll this person? OP do you have more info it might be helpful to show how the process works?

Anonymous said...

January is open enrollment?

Anonymous said...

They wanted it to leak out wink wink ,this is how we do it.

Anonymous said...

Tweet Tweet

Anonymous said...

did that person sneek over the border? thats all they have antway a bunch of wetbacks! fuck you pechanga people

smokeybear said...

O.K., JANUARY IS COMING DOWN THE PIPE, AND IT IS TIME, AND THIS MEANS EVERYBODY INCLUDING MORITORIUM PEOPLE, TO FILE OUR PAPERS AGAIN WITH THE PECHANGA ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE. WITH THIS LITTLE INDISCRECION ON THE PART OF THE TRIBE BREAKING THE MORITORIUM SHOULD MEAN IT IS NOW NULL AND VOID. SHOULDN'T THIS GIVE THE GOVERNMENT(INDIAN AFFAIRS) ENOUGH AMMUNITION TO ACTUALLY LOOK INTO THE CORRUPT ACTIONS OF THE "MACARRO CARTEL," AND THE PERPETUAL "MAKE IT AS THEY GO ATTITUDE" WHERE THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT KNOWING FULL WELL "WHOSE GOING TO STOP THEM!" THIS MAY BE THE "BREAKING POINT." IF ONE IS ENROLLED, WHY NOT ALL? THIS NEEDS TO BE PERSUED WITH A VENGENCE. THE DOUBLE STANDARD, WITH REGARDS TO THE MORITORIUM, CAN'T BE JUSTIFIED UNDER TRIBAL LAW. IS THIS PERSON, OR GROUP OF PEOPLE, LEGAL TO BE ENROLLED OR DID PECHANGA PULL OFF ANOTHER "BUTCH MURPHY" SCAM? O.P. CAN YOU FIND OUT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT? FOR THIS MAY BE MARK'S WATERLOO. FOR IF THIS IS LEGAL, SO ARE WE, AND YOU CAN'T BEND A BRANCH AND NOT HAVE IT BREAK. I CAN'T WAIT TO HERE HOW PECHANGA IS GOING TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS ONE AWAY. THEN, AGAIN, THEY MIGHT JUST TELL US TO GO "POUND SAND" AND THAT WE DO WHAT WE WANT AND NO ONE CAN STOP US! AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING UP TO NOW. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO PUSH THE GOVERNMENT(INDIAN AFFAIRS) INTO TAKING ACTION AGAINST THE DECEITFULL, CORRUPT, AND GREEDY "MACARRO CARTEL" FOR BEING THE TWO FACED, DOUBLE DEALING, AND LYING S.O.B.'S THAT THEY ARE. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS A "MAJOR ISSUE" FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL. "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!"

Anonymous said...

Is it that lady law teacher that lives up there?

Anonymous said...

I think shes a magee?

Anonymous said...

Who, Magee?????? What she is????? Tribe????

Anonymous said...

Ok,Dr.Johnson said there is nomore DNA for new member. The must take DNA before they become new member but there is no way again ever hadn't say if theyre. Pechanga or what tribes are?

Anonymous said...

DNA does not delute. If you dont have the DNA to link you to the Tribe then you never had it in your DNA makeup.

Anonymous said...

Ok, go to www.dailymail.co.uk/science tech/article-2004699/chukchansi-tribal-war-Indian-council

Anonymous said...

DNA does not delute.

What are you talking about ? You think if someone did DNA it would make a difference at pechanga?Lets stop talking about DNA ok.

Anonymous said...

Let me ask you this? What if pechanga enrolled 6 people, From three different families?

No big deal? They open enrollment.

Right?

Anonymous said...

What families. Is only certain families or all families. is the moraturum over.

Anonymous said...

It would be nice if we would get back to some posts that make some sense. Too much nonsense lately.

Anonymous said...

What did you have in mind? Define what makes sense?

Anonymous said...

whos the head of the enrollment committie now? or who decides whos gonna be enrolled?

Anonymous said...

I think what he wants to know OP is the tribal council still telling enrollment what the hell to do? (with a shotgun pointed at their head).

Anonymous said...

I Don't know anything about those members maybe,some other people here can shed some light on it. Some tribes have enrollment vote on it then it gets kicked up to the council and they can over ride it if they want. Ask ammokat?

Anonymous said...

A few meetings ago an elderly gentleman from Sacramento stood up and went up to the mic when mark asked if there were any members and this was their first meeting. I thought it was odd because he was elderly. So does anyone know how many got in

Anonymous said...

Do you want to know who is person name is Mary Magee that who she is !

Anonymous said...

mary magee is not back on the enrollment committee is she ?

Anonymous said...

Thats why people don't come here to this blog the man asked a question and people throw out bull shit names. (take about jokes)

Anonymous said...

A few meetings ago an elderly gentleman from Sacramento stood up and went up to the mic when mark asked if there were any members and this was their first meeting. I thought it was odd because he was elderly. So does anyone know how many got in



AND YOU ARE WHO ? PLEASE

Anonymous said...

Who was terminated from PDC and why?

Anonymous said...

If this new famiy has been inrolled then why havent the Tolboes. and what about the moratorium

Anonymous said...

you have to be a big supporter of the CPP, pledge them all your votes and your family's votes. Then maybe just maybe they will let you in.

Anonymous said...

No Pechanga tribal meeting this month it is the third Sunday. What questions from the people is the council afraid off.

Anonymous said...

the tosobals should be the next family enrolled, no one else, theyve been waiting many years on the moratorium! they are a good family give them a chance! do the right thing! you know who im talking about.

Anonymous said...

Here a List of questions that Mark Macarro and his Mexican monkey brother will be terrified of.
1.) What is the current status on the Water bill lawsuit that was supposed to be completed last year.
2.) We the people want to hear and discuss the report regarding Larry Miranda

3.) Mark is it true that we saw two F.B.I. agents loading boxes of files into their government vehicle.
4.) Mark why was your brother (John) who does not serve on the council given a credit card with unlimited access and when he was caught abusing the tribe’s money on personal affairs, it was quietly and mysteriously taken from him. Without the tribes knowledge.
5.) Mark is it true that you are secretly meeting with high paid Attorneys so you can throw the Leivas line under the bus and save your self.

Now these are questions that the tribe should ask. Not “When is our per-cap going up”

Anonymous said...

Possible answers:

1) Ahhh I'll have to get back to you on that.

2) Get OVER IT!! That question was OUT OF ORDER!

3) No, that was not true, those were some people I hired myself to shred some sensitive documents that ... errrr never mind, those were "Security Specialists" I had to hire to transport sensitive data.

4) Again I say... GET OVER IT!!

5) No that is untrue and is just a bad rumor that is being spread to discredit myself.

Turning to the General Assembly he puts on his serious thoughtful face and says: "you can trust me, I would never do anything to bring harm to anyone"

smokeybear said...

THE "MACARRO CARTEL" ARE SUCH LYING, DISHONEST, DECEITFULL, AND DOWN RIGHT "CANCER INFESTATION" DIRT BAGS THAT PECHANGA BETTER CLEAN HOUSE BEFORE MARK AND HIS HENCHMEN BRING THEM DOWN WITH HIM. THOSE ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS, BUT THAT THE TRIBAL COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY NEVER ASK. MARK'S THE "FOX IN THE HENHOUSE" PLANNING HIS NEXT MEAL. WHEN THE "HAMMER FALLS" ON HIS CORRUPT REGIME HOW MANY IN THE MEMBERSHIP WILL GO DOWN WITH HIM? (HIS HENCHMEN). I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO "HIDE AND WATCH" AS THE CORRUPTION CARD IS PLAYED AND SEE HOW THIS WILL UNFOLD, FOR IF YOU SLEEP WITH DOGS YOU EVENTUAALY GET FLEAS. GET USED TO IT, MARK, YOUR DAY OF RECONNING IS UPON YOU, AND NO AMOUNT OF "DAMAGE CONTROL" WILL SAVE YOUR EVIL SORRY "A..."

Anonymous said...

So it has been said repeatedly that Bobbi LeMere was rewarded for her vote which got more of her family members in and now this, but I've never heard who. I'm just looking for facts in this type of situation.

Do we have a list of name of people that have been let in since the moratorium was in place and the tribe's reason for letting the people in? Were these people those that had their applications in before the moratorium started but were blow off by the CCP, i.e. are they starting to right some wrongs?

Anonymous said...

Thats it they are righting the wrongs. next the Hunters and Apish will be brought back in.

'aamokat said...

The Apish are not all kicked out of the tribe. It is the descendants of his grandaughter Manuela Miranda who are out.

Anonymous said...

why the hunters what happened to the tosobals they had their chance already! the greed is still there

Anonymous said...

every clan for himself/. way to go hunters!

Luiseno said...

How sad to hear people speak things like " why the Hunters, what happened to the Tosobals they had there chance "

You would never hear such a statement from myself nor anyone that I am acquainted with. If the Tosobals got in and the Hunters were never let back into the Tribe, I would be sad for the Hunters, but would cheer for the Tosobals. I would be over joyed that the Tosobals had gotten in as they like the Hunters belong in the Tribe.

Someone out there or perhaps several people seem to really enjoy Hunter bashing. Why this hate for the Hunters, I could never understand it in the past, nor do I understand it today.

'aamokat said...

Do you folks realize that the recent protest had members of the Tosobols and the Hunters working side by side to make it happen?

Of course we would be happy if the Tosobols got in and we would be happy if we got back in so there is no conflict between us at all.

Anonymous said...

Look, God has plan for hunter or tosobols or bothes ! But one of them in then one day it still come back in then is never ever end remeber that ! Look who care . P.S God said follow 10 commandments ! Ames

Anonymous said...

all Tosabol will help all to bring unity and justice just let us be in our Tribe we will help right the wrongs of the past for all Indian country and bring Peace and honor back to our people BEN PAUL vasquez JOHN MUNOA you are BLOOD WHY HAVE YOU NOT GIVEN US OUR BIRTHRIGHT BACK YOU HAVE YOURs WE WANT OURS all you have to do is get together to right this wrong bring your family home.

Anonymous said...

You just dont get it the tribe is not for justice and unity thats old history.They are concerd for the money. Who do you think built on your land.

Anonymous said...

Put away fantasy talk,thats all it is. 400,000 a year per new member wake the fuck up! Move on with your life.

Anonymous said...

We will never stop fighting for whats right thats no fantasy.

Anonymous said...

You got people that have sat on the rez for 15 years and never went to a protest. (they don't deserve shit!)Fight thats what you call that even your tribal fucking hack does not bother to come around any more? Thats Sad!

Anonymous said...

THOSE SO CALLED MEXICAN CASINO INDIANS CAN KISS MY ASS, THEY WILL NEVER LET ANTBODY IN BECAUSE THEIR AFRAID OF MINI MACCARO! IF THEY KEEP QUITE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO RECIEVE THEIR PER CAP THEIR TO STUPID TO INVEST THEIR MONEY OTHER THAN SPEND THEIR MONEY ON FOOD HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF THOSE FAT PIGS?, HEY FRANCIS HAVE ANY HAIR LEFT? GIVE UP ALL THE PRAYING BECAUSE ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN THAT MORATORIUM WILL GO ON FOREVER THE ENROLLMENT COMM. IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME, PEOPLE IN THE TRIBE NOW HAD BEYYER WAKE UP ITS NOT GONNA LAST FOREVER! I HEARD SOME OF THOSE WETBACK INDIANS SPEND THEIR SO FAST THEY HALF TO GET A LAON ON THE NEXT PER CAP FUCK OFF WETBACKS

Anonymous said...

THOSE SO CALLED MEXICAN CASINO INDIANS CAN KISS MY ASS, THEY WILL NEVER LET ANTBODY IN BECAUSE THEIR AFRAID OF MINI MACCARO! IF THEY KEEP QUITE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO RECIEVE THEIR PER CAP THEIR TO STUPID TO INVEST THEIR MONEY OTHER THAN SPEND THEIR MONEY ON FOOD HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF THOSE FAT PIGS?, HEY FRANCIS HAVE ANY HAIR LEFT? GIVE UP ALL THE PRAYING BECAUSE ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN THAT MORATORIUM WILL GO ON FOREVER THE ENROLLMENT COMM. IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME, PEOPLE IN THE TRIBE NOW HAD BEYYER WAKE UP ITS NOT GONNA LAST FOREVER! I HEARD SOME OF THOSE WETBACK INDIANS SPEND THEIR SO FAST THEY HALF TO GET A LAON ON THE NEXT PER CAP FUCK OFF WETBACKS

Anonymous said...

THOSE SO CALLED MEXICAN CASINO INDIANS CAN KISS MY ASS, THEY WILL NEVER LET ANTBODY IN BECAUSE THEIR AFRAID OF MINI MACCARO! IF THEY KEEP QUITE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO RECIEVE THEIR PER CAP THEIR TO STUPID TO INVEST THEIR MONEY OTHER THAN SPEND THEIR MONEY ON FOOD HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF THOSE FAT PIGS?, HEY FRANCIS HAVE ANY HAIR LEFT? GIVE UP ALL THE PRAYING BECAUSE ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN THAT MORATORIUM WILL GO ON FOREVER THE ENROLLMENT COMM. IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME, PEOPLE IN THE TRIBE NOW HAD BEYYER WAKE UP ITS NOT GONNA LAST FOREVER! I HEARD SOME OF THOSE WETBACK INDIANS SPEND THEIR SO FAST THEY HALF TO GET A LAON ON THE NEXT PER CAP FUCK OFF WETBACKS

Anonymous said...

It would be of assistance if the moratorium people posted how long they have been waiting for their file to be processed. Ten years?

If anyone gets in the Tribe, it should be based on the date of the applications, not politically. Of course, that would be in a just world. And we know,that Pechanga is not just.

Anonymous said...

ive been on the moratorium for fifteen years now, they always say "DONT GIVE UP" while trying to keep from laughting!

Anonymous said...

Well if the Leyva Family ever are Disenrolled, That will mean 90% Corruption will be gone and will probably open the way for the people to open up for new and rightful families to come in. Only if the people Vote on it. But again most of the corrupted influence will be gone from the general meetings and the different departments that they are holding right now.

Anonymous said...

I say what the fuck give on all the false hopes of ever being enrolled. If they they havent done anything now they will never give in ,their lazy, corupt mexicans with no education! they probably get their checks and send them back to mexico! The so called do nothing enrolled comm., tribal council, membership are all withering little sissys, no backbone, just give me my check and ill keep quite just because of that little bitch of a weasel maccaro. So in a nut shell krrp fighting for nothing youll never be enrolled, as for my self i have better things to do good luck, the moratorium will be up in 2014 ha ha ha ha!kiss my ass pechanga!

Anonymous said...

Well, let prayer for all nation tribes back in and never ever give up remember keep fight what we belong ! Amen!

Anonymous said...

Jesus mother of God , help these people to move on.Get them medical help and then get some of the current tribal members medical help.This will not end until they kill each other (the bible tells it all).

Anonymous said...

Isnt to bad what real indians have to go thru just to belong in whats rightfully ours, the so called indians dont give a damn what we say, esccially the council, enrollment and their beloved chairanimal! remember 2014 moratorium is up, i wish at least they know how to count!

Anonymous said...

No justice...No peace!

Until criminals are exposed and brought to justice....no peace!

Until victims of crimes perpetrated by frauds are made whole by justice...no peace!

Anonymous said...

Indian wars on horizon...land into trust will trigger San Manuel to muscle Indians; Manuel and Pechanga are in for shocking surprises.

Anonymous said...

Lets unite! It cant be that hard to convince the enrolled that its time to take over and do the right thing, those basquezes are nothing but criminals anyway, TAKE BACK WHAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE TRUE INDIANS ENOUGHS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I hear even the asian bus shuttles are aware of the corrupt goings on at the casino hope they discontinue wasting money at cosino

Anonymous said...

Anybody here of any good rumors or lies coming from the tribe lately?

Anonymous said...

Well,Let prayer for ours nation tribes for result this weekend it should be! Every nation tribe must speak strong faith in ours gods in hand ! Hope they should be rightful things to work out where ever nation tribe belong and never give up ever remember as always!