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Thursday, June 5, 2014

CALIFORNIA DISENROLLMENT STUDY: Information Requested for STUDY

Please help with this study if you have been disenrolled from a California tribe.  Prof. Hansen will present it at the CA Indian Conference in October.  Let's get the information out there.

CA Disenrollment Study

I’m doing a quantitative study on disenrollment from California tribes to be presented at the California Indian Conference at Cal State San Bernardino in October, and then eventually for publication. Besides the academic endeavor, I think that those of us who oppose this unjust practice need more hard evidence so that we can make a stronger case to decision makers. For now, I’m starting with California, because there seem to be a higher proportion of tribes in this state who violate the civil rights of their member citizens. But once I’ve developed a workable model, I could expand the dataset to all tribes throughout the US. California has the most tribes of any state, the highest population of American Indians, and the most casino tribes. Hence, it’s not an accident that we also have more disenrollment (aka individual terminations) here. However, numbers are hard to come by, and my dataset remains incomplete.



Here’s the money: To complete the study I need data on the percentage disenrolled for each tribe that has engaged in the practice. For that, I need to know the total population of each tribe, minus the number who have been disenfranchised and removed from tribal rolls. The tribes aren’t talking. So, if you are in the know and can send me such information I will be eternally grateful. It would also be helpful to know if your tribe was one of the 41 that was terminated, if they operate under an IRA constitution (or an amended version thereof), and if they are one of the few in California that has an authentic tribal court system.

So, if you’re willing to help with the study, please send me an email (kennethh@csufresno.edu) with the following data (or as much as you know):

Name of tribe/nation

Population (total number of member citizens)

The number of disenrolled member citizens

Tribe terminated? Yes/No

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Then the Actors can step forward and correct the mistakes that were made or the could lie again and let the mistakes be broadcast outside? Our Ancestors had dishonest factions of settlers, now dishonest people in the Band? Is that the story you really want to leave behind about today?

NO ONE is more deserving than anyone else today, ALL is ALL!

So, if you’re willing to help with the study, please send me an email (kennethh@csufresno.edu) with the following data (or as much as you know):

Name of tribe/nation

Population (total number of member citizens)

The number of disenrolled member citizens

Tribe terminated? Yes/No

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have posted this question many times over the last year, What member of the tribe would make a good leader.

What man or woman is capable of doing the right thing?

What man or woman can make the tribe whole again?

Simple questions, but unless the right man becomes the leader things will remain the same. A leader has to have integrity, grit and fortitude and also be humble. Does anyone fit that bill????
December 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Anonymous said...


"What man or woman is capable of doing the right thing?"

It would be a good time to replace the Actors with true Humble Spokesperson! Leave Pechanga corrupt, or clean the Yard?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
It will be interesting to see if they are going to try to squeeze allottees of water.

That will sit very well with Congress. The tribe looked like idiots last year and this would add fuel to the fire.

They have not discussed water with owners of land on the reservation.

December 1, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What needy families. I don’t know a needy family that makes $20.000. A month. Pechanga has a running rule if you are not a member you can’t receive any benefits the tribes gets even from government agencies ask any of the Hunter family that are original allottees still living on the reservation. So is this service area is going to be like the golf course. They say they will sue this area for one thing and when they get it they use it for another.

December 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM


Change would be refreshing, or keep the water pollution active? Sovereignty for ALL or just the CPP Corrupt factions?

Anonymous said...

Ask Mark Macarro or Gloria Wright they can tell all.

Let the Sun beat down on your face while telling the story.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Luiseno said...
I agree that "It has long been held by the courts that an Indian tribe has the right to self-government, and the right to determine its own membership"

But what happens when the ruling body of the Tribe (the General Membership) has determined that a Family or group of people should remain in the Tribe and not to be disenrolled. Not only this but also to remove disenrollment from Tribal law, And a small group of people who just happen to be in power decide to ignore those lawfully voted directives, and go ahead and disenroll anyways.

So here we have the governing body of the Tribe (the General Membership) exercising its right to determine its own membership, and the Council rejecting a lawfully voted upon directive from the General Membership.

November 30, 2011 at 1:54 PM

Years of the truth followed by the liars CPP faction and Actors Spokesman, or chairman. Hope you see the book as he signs it for the kids coming up. Thanks for the corrupt Actors showing everyone the Truth. Liars are Liars.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
the fact is, anyone who can sit and see all the documentation from the the certified depositions of tribal elders, certified documents from the creation of the Pechanga reservation, see the unfortunate disenrollment of Luiseno indians at Pechanga.

January 31, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at least two of the depositions had to be translated from Luiseno to English for the record to be certified by the government issuing the Allotment to the Hunter Family.
All Documentation is plain and Simple, Hunters are Pechanga. "Pechanga Band Of Luiseno Mission Indians."

January 31, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Anonymous said...

Oh Luiseno Mission Indians. Pechanga reservation Allotted in 1897, so San Luis Rey Mission Indians? San Luis Rey is Luiseno right? Did the Mission round up Luiseno people from around the land? Did families have recognition that was recorded by tribal elders during the creation of the reservation? Did families have recorded depositions again by tribal elders during the bands internal recognition after the reservation was established? The CPP corrupt Actors say no, but the recorded history is crystal clear. NO ONE is more Indian or recognized except the CPP. Most of whom have some of the same documentation if any at all. The band said ALL IS ALL, but the CPP wanted lies broadcast so here we are today. Truth or lies? Keep the garbage piling up, or clean and correct the corrupt and lets move on together.

Anonymous said...

Thank you CPP for broadcasting the lies. Mark, Gloria, Raymond, Andrew, Butch, Ed, more and more Thank you. You decided the greedy people deserved to pick up the corn off the cornfield was more important than sharing the corn according to custom and tradition. Too bad the lies are not the truth. To bad that greed is more important to you, than following the General council "ALL means ALL!" Our ancestors understood how important it is, that's why they took the time to take recorded depositions filed with the US Government. It's more important for you to say lies and be greedy.

Anonymous said...

Mark will you be able to sign a deposition recording your Oral Spokesperson saying that no custom or tradition was ever broken during your election period. Will your Brother John, running the legal aid department for the band do the same thing? Mark you have already been recorded on camera lying, is that the signed document you want to leave behind? Thank you John and Mark. It's never to late to correct yourselves. I'm sure you both would feel different if the corrupt people took you out for not allowing corrupt actions to be broadcast.

Anonymous said...

What to Corrupt faction forgets is that they are and will be judged, now and after. If the lies have become crystal clear, it's never to late to correct the mistakes and ask for forgiveness. The clans that are disenrolled or illegally removed from bands are protected always and forever. The lesson is to never do to someone else what you would not like done to ourselves. If and when I lie, I would want to be exposed. I guess the same is in effect now for the liars clubs in some bands today. It's showing the younger generation that lying, greed, separation by using these actions are judged now and after it is broadcast, and judged again after the Actors leave the existence.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Indian country has to much power. They have very much ruined lives of both adults and children. Leading them to question their heritage. These tribal members were forcefully removed from the positions they held and also were forcefully removed and banned from tribal grounds, clinic and casino despite the fact they had no aggression nor did they show aggression towards any tribal members or security while being removed. The tribe treated these members and even the elders (55+) as though they were criminals by wearing bullet proof vests and had police enforcement when the elders (60+) were asked to come show proof of their lineage to the tribal council and enrollment committee. We as a tribal country need to voice our opinions and let our voices be heard about this disenrollment in ALL tribes! NOT JUST ONE...

June 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM

So so true! We all need to share, it's another wake up call.

Anonymous said...

Judgement, Justice, Retribution and Vindication.

Anonymous said...

According to Custom and tradition Pechanga Band Members can and will override council and committee decisions. The Band can and will make internal decisions for the will of the People. When the CPP corrupt actors disagree with the Bands decision today they do what they want and threaten others if anyone tries to go with the Bands decision. Right Butch, Mark? Adopted people can be determined by the Band, but Alotted enrolled members have to stay in a enrollment committee decision that is against the bands interpretation of enrolled criteria. "ALL MEANS ALL" Adopted, Allotted members, Bands determine issues not Spokesmen's, I mean chairman or CPP corrupt council I mean adopted members on council. The Band determines everything I think? Or maybe the Spokesman does? What's the constitution and Bylaws during the Membership dispute? Or does the legal council and Spokesman, brothers determine the will of the People and not the Band? I think the Actor Spokesman should be asked and recorded, or he already has been. Sovereignty is for the Spokesman or Band members? As long as the CPP corrupt actors get what they want today, that's custom and tradition they want to show everyone?

Anonymous said...

Judgement, Justice, Retribution and Vindication. (In heaven right)? Or is this Heaven?

Anonymous said...




@June 7, 2014 at 7:29 AM

Right from wrong, wrong from right are choices. Exposing either is a choice also. Judgment, Justice, Retribution and Vindication will be delivered when necessary or planned to be. The river is flowing. Hopefully we all realize we get back whatever we deliver now or later.

Anonymous said...

Telling the truth, exposing liars for "ALL to SEE" is and always will be necessary. Some may do the same or some may even change. The book is being written minute by minute. Hitler had a book written about him and his choices. Blogs are here today to share the stories earlier.

Anonymous said...

Mark Macarro will be Hitler and Gloria Wright (Eva Braun).

Anonymous said...

Leave Gloria alone she was forced to do what she did. (for the good of the tribe).

Anonymous said...

Gloria was not forced she did what she did for more money on her per cap. how she back stabbed Lawrence and Sophie Madariaga by writing her letter to the enrollment committee after they helped her and her husband Tom and opened there home to her.

Anonymous said...

She did what she did for the good of the tribe? Isn't that what the tribal by laws are for to follow for the good of the tribe. So if the Hunters met the criteria of membership stated in the bylaws and the enrollment committee hired Dr. John Johnson and his findings said yes the hunters 90% Temecula Valley Indians and 100% Pechanga then who is Gloria Wright to supersede tribal bylaws and constitution.

Anonymous said...

"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.…

Psalm 25:13
They will spend their days in prosperity, and their descendants will inherit the land.

Once more the humble will rejoice in the LORD; the needy will rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

Anonymous said...

Psalm 25:13 His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.

Anonymous said...


"Both thorn and thistles it should bring forth, for us. For out of the ground we were taken for the dust we are, and to the dust we shall return." -