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Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Indian Affairs Committee MUST know of Pechanga's Attempt to STEAL WATER from ALLOTTEES.

We wrote three years ago about Pechanga losing it's opportunity to get their water bill passed because of their lies to Congress about how many allottees were affected.  There are over 175 Temecula Indians who have claim to allotted lands on the Pechanga Indian Reservation.   

We have rights to any water that comes to reservation land.  With this latest attempt, Pechanga is looking to redefine what an allottee is.  Here is a letter that can be sent to the Senate Indian Affairs Committee.


Send an email with this letter to comments@indian.senate.gov with the option to fax the majority fax (202) 228-2589 and the Minority (202) 224-5429

To the Indian Affairs Committee. Maria Cantwell, Tim Tester, Jon Tester, Tom Udall, Al Franken, Mark Begich, Brian Schatz, Heidi Heitkamp, John Barrasso, John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, John Hoeven, Michael Crapo, Deb Fischer. 


I’m writing to you as a concern citizen on the blatant disregard for civil rights that the senate and congress is to uphold.

The water bills S1219 and  HR 2508  that was killed last year because of the disenrolled native Americans that are still allottees and it violates their rights as allottees granted protection by the president and congress. These families are original allottees that have the original deeds signed by President McKinley these deeds were made to start the reservation not the other way around.

These bills were killed last year now rewritten bills S1219 and HR 2508 Under SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.(4) ALLOTTEE- The term ‘allottee’ means a member of a federally recognized Indian tribe who holds a beneficial real property interest in an Indian allotment that is--Permalink(A) located within the Reservation; and Permalink(B) held in trust by the United States.

 This section was written to purposely take their allottees status away condoning the illegal and civil violation that has taken place on the Pechanga Indian Reservation. Their disenrollment was done illegally by the tribe's own constitution and bylaws thereby illegally stripping them of their federal status. Their allotment is in the middle of the reservation this meets criteria A. their allotment is in trust and can be verified by the B.I.A. also meeting criteria B.

Under SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.(5) band.(A) In general.—the term ‘’Band’’ means the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Mission Indians, a federally recognized sovereign Indian tribe that functions as a custom and tradition Indian tribe, acting on behalf of itself and its members. (B) Exclusion.—the term “Band” does not include an individual member of the band acting in the capacity of an allottee. (A) States members since the disenrolled are not because the Band went against their customs and traditions to disenroll them the band does not have the right to represent them. (B) If an individual member can’t act in capacity of an allottee then the band can’t act in behalf of a federal recognized allottee that has been illegally disenrolled.

This bill needs to be killed or amended to protect allottees federal rights stated per:

Tribal enactments disenrolling allottees not found to meet the established enrollment criteria. The commissioner’s approval of such action shall be subject to appeal to the Secretary or the Interior.

The commissioner shall forward to the secretary with a recommendation, ordinance, resolution or contract with a treaty or with Tribal Constitution and membership criteria set by the tribe or charter, under which the ordinance, resolution or contract was adopted, enacted or negotiated or should be disapproved or rescinded for any other reason. Notwithstanding the commissioner shall not redelegate the authority granted in this paragraph to any officer or employee who pursuant to a tribe constitution or charter passes upon ordinance, resolution or contracts.


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31 comments:

Anonymous said...

I heard the hunters don't post here because the tribe will kick them off the Rez,.

Anonymous said...

Some of the Hunters that are married to tribal members have had Mark Macarro call the tribal member in and tell them if you spouse goes to the news on tribal disenrollment then they and their children will be disenrolled.

Anonymous said...

Most of the Hunters are worthless pussies...

Anonymous said...

WHAA WHAA

Anonymous said...

i thought they we're all kicked out?

Anonymous said...

they're all fake, just in it for the money, especially the crybaby about her kids, not about the heritage just the money! you had your fun, now leave!


Anonymous said...

One thing for sure is the Hunters are proud, and got along before and after the $$$$. They have maintained the land that was allotted to them since 1893. Family is the most important thing for the Hunters. Since families use water, this water bill is important and needs to cover allottees regardless. Bottom line is money is money, land is land, family is family. Its not the corrupt people right to take any of that away or add stress by acting like the Hunters rights are not important. The Hunters are and always will be Temecula Indians, living in Temecula raising children and helping each other, and anyone else worthy, loyal and caring just like the Hunters. That's more important than the $$$$$ and always will be. It's also a fact that Karma will fix the corrupt actions people do, just ask Jennie Miranda. Mark, Butch, Raymond, and the rest, your time will come. Aho!

Elaine Tavizon said...

Dear Anonymous Posters:

Interesting how people with derogatory statements, never stand up to their opinions by posting their names. Mrs. Elaine Tavizon

Patricia Miranda Madariaga said...

This is Patricia Miranda Madariaga are you talking about me? Why don't you leave your name? Before you post something get your information correct, I went to the council because I did not agree with things Michael was doing. I was never told that if he went to the news that me or my kids would be disenrolled.What I disagreed with is that no one ever stated that Michael kids and grandkids are members and that Michael benefits from this. If you want all the facts my mom is Edna Miranda and my aunt is Ruth.

Anonymous said...

Ruth who ?

Anonymous said...

I know shes not talking about Ruth Masiel (shes not Temecula Indian)and she fucking raped alot of people.

All the hunters are threatened on the Rez, Rocks thrown at them and told to shut the fuck up!

Anonymous said...

Protect alottees rights, sign the letter and forward it in. send it to family and friends too. We are going to make a statement, corrupt acts are not going unnoticed. Government officials are digging in because they see clearly the corrupt acts that are taking place. Protect water rights for all Indians.

Anonymous said...

They yell at the Hunters to "go away!" Haha, that shows they are not going anywhere.

Anonymous said...

I am so f*kin sick &tired of pussy ass "anonymous" tribal members saying the Hunter's are weak just becuz we haven't retaliated physically. We have no problem retaliating physically,  we can see you pussy's couldn't handle a physical retaliation so.....we'll continue to play yur paper game right back. Enjoy the ride mfukr!!!!!!!! "anonymous disenrolled Hunter"

Emily Miranda said...

You tell them sister! They don't even know what they r talking about . You guys whoever u r shouldn't be repeating (what u think r true facts) things don't don't even concern you. Don't be talking about our family, leave us out of ur mess and leave my Aunt alone.

Anonymous said...

You aint my sister bitch!

Anonymous said...

Shes not talking to you!! Your fuckin anonymous retard!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous- You aint my sister bitch!
August 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Hey kid it's past 8 O'clock shouldn't u be in bed by now...u got school tommorow. This is a grown up conversation stay out of it....it's above your comprehension/lol yur understanding.

'aamokat said...

Patricia Miranda Madariaga said, "This is Patricia Miranda Madariaga are you talking about me? Why don't you leave your name? Before you post something get your information correct, I went to the council because I did not agree with things Michael was doing. I was never told that if he went to the news that me or my kids would be disenrolled.What I disagreed with is that no one ever stated that Michael kids and grandkids are members and that Michael benefits from this. If you want all the facts my mom is Edna Miranda and my aunt is Ruth."

I am not sure what you disagreed about, was it Michael going to the news or was it that Michael benefits from this? 1. Michael was standing up for us so what is wrong with that? 2. People who are familiar with what is going on know Michael doesn't benefit from this.

I am glad that you and your kids were not threatened with disenrollment as that would be wrong and that would not be fair but, really, nothing that happened to us was fair either so it wouldn't have surprised me if Mark and company had done so.

'aamokat said...

"am so f*kin sick &tired of pussy ass "anonymous" tribal members saying the Hunter's are weak just becuz we haven't retaliated physically. We have no problem retaliating physically, we can see you pussy's couldn't handle a physical retaliation so.....we'll continue to play yur paper game right back. Enjoy the ride mfukr!!!!!!!! "anonymous disenrolled Hunter"

So right my brother, we don't need to do anything physical as we can stand up for ourselves with our brains something that seems severely lacking in our opponents' corner.

What really amazes me is that if everything was truly over for us, then why would these anonymous tribal members even bother to comment here? They must still be feeling the pressure that we haven't gone away.

By the way, do any of you so called true Pechangas even know what my handle here 'aamokat even means?

Anonymous said...

Wow ,how does a wife not step up and stop her husband from getting dis-enrolled?

Weak ass shit ,..

Anonymous said...

Voting block ,to save her own ass or the fake splinter group.

Is the picture clear now ?

Ever see the movie ,grey owl hahaha . "They dream well"

Anonymous said...

She probably was for the disenrollment its just she married him before the casino.

Anonymous said...

Me chola ,hear me roar ,

Go to medical school got mes a jobs. All I do is for my peoples.


Now I have more respect for the Hunters who never did anything ,..

Aint that the shit homes ,..

Anonymous said...

Typical, get online post your ignorance, act like wrong is right and spew myth made up to pass along. Good luck in your journey, it's way to obvious you will need all you can get. One thing that will never go away is the Hunter clan. Been here and always will be, forever! Thank you for showing the world the truth behind the scenes, LOL

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Me chola ,hear me roar ,

Go to medical school got mes a jobs. All I do is for my peoples.


Now I have more respect for the Hunters who never did anything ,..

Aint that the shit homes ,..

August 31, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Ignorance is bliss! Thank you for posting small minded thoughts! It shows everyone, the small minded people who have no souls, and don't understand the Indian way! good luck!

Anonymous said...

Allotted trust lands are held in trust for the use of an individual Indian (or his or her heirs). The federal government holds the legal title and the individual (or his or her heirs) holds the beneficial interest.
In 1887, Congress enacted the General Allotment Act,8 which divided up Indian reservations and allotted the partitioned land to individual Indians. The land was to be held in trust by the federal government for a period of years (originally 25 years), until the beneficial owner could show that he was competent to own the land in fee. In Minnesota, the Nelson Act of 1889 implemented the allotment process.9 Many of the allotments passed out of trust status and are now no longer owned by Indians. Although some land passed legitimately at the expiration of the “trial period” to Indian ownership, most passed out of trust status and out of Indian hands through fraud and tax sales.10 In 1934, with the passage of the Indian Reorganization Act (IRA), the trust status of the remaining allotments was extended indefinitely.11 The IRA also allowed no more Indian land to be allotted. As a result, a significant amount of allotted land remains in trust today.
so were does it state that you have to be a tribal member. and it states lost through fraud is this not what Pechanga has done by illegally disenrolling original allottees.

Anonymous said...

The hunters should be able to vent their true "feelings" !

What does it feel like to be"raped by the Miranda's and Masiels" ?

Also what does it feel like to have rocks thrown at you and to not be able to use the park ( on the reservation)?

Do they allow you to go to the casino and do you have to use a special bathroom ( not a public one )?

Anonymous said...

I saw all the News Segments from various news channels through out the years, I saw Michael Madariaga and other Hunters filming on the Rez walking down the road expressing there feelings, They did seemed afraid of what you people thought or do you see or hear any Hunters expressing that they live in fear of the Rez. NO!!!
I do not see or hear anyone running up to them in public or on the Rez telling what he or she feels about them. I do not see any so called casino Indians like Mark Macarro or any of his clan stopping at there homes or property demanding them to stop.
I have seen a lot of Hunters from the Rez at the different functions on the Rez. They don’t to seem afraid of anyone.

“Also what does it feel like to have rocks thrown at you and to not be able to use the park ( on the reservation)?”

Why don’t you ask them to the question above when your on the Rez.

Anonymous said...

How does this water proposal effect non-enrolled alottees?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
How does this water proposal effect non-enrolled alottees?

October 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM"

The water proposal needs to be stopped until the corrupt actions of the tribal council are looked at inside and out. Why should the current water proposal pass when over 100 alottees have lost their rights due to a corrupt faction that wants to control everything by not allowing the constitution and bylaws to be followed without prejudice or malice? It's time to correct the mistake that was made.
All Alottees should have a voice in the water proposal.