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Monday, June 20, 2011

Pechanga Uses Threats of Sanctions on Their Own Tribal People for Disclosures

It's always curious which of the Pechanga Constitution and Bylaws the Pechanga Tribe chooses to enforce.   Does anyone believe they will not hesitate to enforce sanctions on tribal members for passing out information?    Here's is what is in the fine print of Pechanga's Meeting Notices:

All General Membership Agendas, Notices, Attachments and/or other related documents, including any documents handed

out at General Membership meetings ("Documents") are intended solely for use by the General Membership or the individual Tribal Member to whom the Documents are addressed.

These Documents are considered to contain sensitive, privileged and/or confidential tribal information and
may not be disclosed to non- Tribal Members or otherwise published, posted or disseminated. Any Tribal Member found by the Pechanga Tribal Council to have disclosed, published, posted or disseminated copies or the contents of any Documents shall be subject to sanctions pursuant to Article XIII of the Band's Constitution and Bylaws. Misuse of proprietary tribal documents by non-tribal members will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law . •

Pechanga's Mark Macarro-led Tribal Council is famous for overlooking constitutional provisions of the Band's Constitution.   Maybe BIA Direct Amy Deutshke will follow up with her discussions on sanctions for the band, now that she knows they are so hot to trot to do that to their people.

Q:  Does anyone believe HOLLAND & KNIGHT or HOLLY MACARRO or IETAN  has not been in possession of documents deemed private, sensitive and confidential?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Closely scutinized every document/record.
You'll see that someone's has stolen documents from the National Archives in Washington, D.C.
Returned first by replacing them with bogus replacements records/documents.
Ask what did they do with our original documents/records?
We went an found 3 different constitutions & by-laws rewritten from our original constitution & by-laws,(only for their specifications), cuz they didn't expect anyone from original tribes would find this out.
Treaty chiefs are & have been replaced with different names & titles.
When there should be 14 Chiefs with 14 bands that follow under these treaty chiefs.
Finding 13 treaty chiefs from same tribe, having 12 treaty chiefs, when in actual there has been 14 chiefs from the start.
Several replacement families that are from another tribe, or non-tribal, totally no conection in your tribe or tribal families, have and are taking away a legitimate family's ancestors rightful heirship and your families.

There were 82 boxes on B.I.A. documents/records, treaty tribes, trust fund tribes, tribal constitutions & by-laws documents/records, treaty chief's ancestrial documents/records and more importantly, our own ancestrial families/tribal chief's bands.

Now, most of theses documents/records were switch-rewritten documents/records, rewritten constitutions & by-laws,
annuities records/documents of land owners/land allotments, rewritten ancestrial tribal families, omitting a chief & headman here omitted a chief & headman there along with that cheif's families band's or leaving entire families off, that were meant to be there in the first place.
They have replaced alot of our families for their family trees.

I would not be surpised one bit that Ietan and the rest of his posse have something to do with this, it all falls into place. Documents/records from the National Archives have been replaced, alot of our original documents/records have morphed into some impersonating families and identities.

Go to the Washington Post and type in, National Archives hunt for missing treasures with recovery team...the recovery team has discovered 81 boxes of records with national security. Between 2005 and 2007, original records from the Bureau of Indian Affairs were discovered dumped in the trash at the Washington headquarters.
Now, go to orignal BIA records dumped in trash at National Archives in DC February 24, 2011, the web site will take you to...Trust fund records dumped by federal agency-September 22, 2005 & September 29, 2005-Editorial: BIA is busy...dumping trust records.

Why does one have to wonder why they don't want any one searching their own records/documents.
They have been replaced by none other than bogus records.
They did not want any original tribal people looking through their own files, records & documents.

Anonymous said...

sanctions pursuant to Article XIII

not to speak ,haha fucking cover up (your gonna shut up and tell them were fucking pechanga indian).

'aamokat said...

"All General Membership Agendas, Notices, Attachments and/or other related documents, including any documents handed

out at General Membership meetings ("Documents") are intended solely for use by the General Membership or the individual Tribal Member to whom the Documents are addressed.

These Documents are considered to contain sensitive, privileged and/or confidential tribal information and
may not be disclosed to non- Tribal Members or otherwise published, posted or disseminated. Any Tribal Member found by the Pechanga Tribal Council to have disclosed, published, posted or disseminated copies or the contents of any Documents shall be subject to sanctions pursuant to Article XIII of the Band's Constitution and Bylaws. Misuse of proprietary tribal documents by non-tribal members will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law ."

They would probably ignore the second part of this, if Holland & Knight, Holly Macarro, or Ietan had any confidential tribal documents by saying, "but they weren't given out at a tribal meeting.

smokeybear said...

QUESTION: IS THIS TRUE? HOW IN THE H.. COULD THIS EVEN HAPPEN? ISN'T OUR IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS PHOTO COPIED/ MICRO FILMED AND PUT IN THE ARCHIVES SO AS NOT TO BE TAMPERED WITH? ISN'T THIS DOCUMENTATION SUPPOSED TO BE SEEN IN A VIEWED ONLY CONTEXT? HOW COULD THESE DECEITFUL AND CORRUPT INDIANS/NON INDIANS GET THEIR GREEDY HANDS ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE? ARE THERE NO SAFEGUARDS? THE LEVEL OF CORRUPTION IS "MIND BOGGLING." THEY ARE "MAKING THIS UP AS THEY GO." ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION THE ACCURACY OF THESE DOCUMENTS? WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT (INDIAN AFFAIRS) WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING? THERE HAS TO BE A "SKUNK IN THE HOUSE OF INDIAN AFFAIRS" THAT IS ALLOWING SOMETHING LIKE TO TO MANIFEST ITSELF TO THIS DEGREE OF CORRUPTION, IF IN FACT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. HOW CAN THE TRUE "NATIVE AMERICAN" GET A FAIR SHAKE AT JUSTICE WITHIN THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIPS? DOES THIS FALL UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE "WHITE MANS COURT? WHEN WILL THE GOVERNMENT (INDIAN AFFAIRS) FINALLY REALIZE THE DEPTH OF CORRUPTION THAT PLAGUES THE NATIVE AMERICAN AND TAKE A REAL INTEREST IN FIXING WHAT IS TRULY BROKEN THROUGHOUT INDIAN COUNTRY? WHEN DOES "OVERSITE COME INTO PLAY?" COME ON, ORIGINAL RECORDS DUMPED IN TRASH AT B.I.A. ARCHIVES? "HEADS NEED TO ROLL ON THIS ONE."

Anonymous said...

Check out your local tribal museums, find your documents under different family trees, different tribal names of people, who never existed, but are existing in our tribes.

Smokey Bear this has been done, look into it, too! Yes! Our records are micro-filmed & photocopied, back when they were original and by now have been tampered with. Some people have found ways to get around the safe guards and relish in this practice of producing/creating their own personal tribes.

Yes! For the ?'s you are asking...yes, non-tribal people, non-members of your tribal organization, have gotten their criminal hands on alot of tribal tribes records.
That is why, we could never scan our families files after losing them to the afterlife or to know exactly who all our families extends too. This is why they didn't want any real tribal members, knowing that we descend directly to historical ancestors, that signed treaties, for preparational future born native people...

It's Indian agents like the current lobbyist & cohorts who have & are swaying, influencing /exchange of monies to practiced these criminal crimes & their hateful evils, against the the true native american.

Now, them wanting a clean carceiri fix...it's for the newly non-tribal people to jump on the band wagon, jump and thrash aound in our tribes or their new casino tribe to create.

Anonymous said...

Well, first there are non indian members in the tribe today. Mark's family history is Mexican! Dr. Johnson said that there is no blood line from past to now! But they look like they are indian but they are not Indian period! Go look on the website ancestry.com It is suppose to only be Indian history past to future!

Anonymous said...

What sanction are you guys talking about ? The BIA is going to place sanction against PECHANGA for the moratorium PEOPLE? WHAT are you talkig about? Disenrollment is not illegal so I know sanction will not be for that ? What is polywalis talking about? Is it for not allowing access to land? Is it for not enrolling for 15 years ? What did the BIA say to her ?

Anonymous said...

There is information that will be disclosed in due time my friend

POLYSQWALIS

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said...
What sanction are you guys talking about ? The BIA is going to place sanction against PECHANGA for the moratorium PEOPLE? WHAT are you talkig about? Disenrollment is not illegal so I know sanction will not be for that ? What is polywalis talking about? Is it for not allowing access to land? Is it for not enrolling for 15 years ? What did the BIA say to her ?
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE B.I.A. IS GOING TO PUT ANY SANCTIONS AGAINST PECHANGA. THEY TOLD US THAT IT WAS A POSSIBILTY WHEN WE MET WITH THEM ON JUNE 2. THEY COULD BE "BLOWING SMOKE." AS FOR THE DISENROLLMENTS BEING LEGAL, YOU ARE "WRONG." THE MEMBERSHIP AT PECHANGA VOTED IN TO NOT HAVE ANY DISENROLLMENTS, THEN DID IT ANYWAY. SO IT IS ILLEGAL AT PECHANGA.

Anonymous said...

Who told you what? what was there names BIA ? and exact words ? These can be used later in a suit . Omission that infact they know what was going on? COME NOW are you lying? What was said? AND disenrollment is not illegal FEDERAL court has said so,thats why the courts will not hear your case.

Luiseno said...

Disenrollment is illegal if it's against Tribal law to disenroll. In the Hunters case it was deemed to be illegal to disenroll anyone, as that is what the General Membership voted into law almost a year before the Hunters were disenrolled.

It may not be against Federal law to disenroll, but is was at that time against Tribal law to do so.

Anonymous said...

You are correct, I was there during the time the General Membership voted to remove disenrollment from tribal law, and make illegal to disenroll anyone.

But so what, maybe it was illegal to disenroll the Hunters, but who's going to prosecute the enrollment committee for committing an illegal action?

Answer.... No one

'aamokat said...

Anonymous said...

"You are correct, I was there during the time the General Membership voted to remove disenrollment from tribal law, and make illegal to disenroll anyone.

But so what, maybe it was illegal to disenroll the Hunters, but who's going to prosecute the enrollment committee for committing an illegal action?"

The tribal council was also guilty for allowing the will of the people to be circumvented.

That has been the problem, if a tribe doesn't follow their own laws, who can make them do so?

One answer to this problem would be the people if any of them cared enough to insist that a duly passed law be retroactively enforced but how many of them have the guts to insist but more more likely, how many of them even really care?

After all, it didn't happen to them and if the Hunters were let back in they would get less money.

Anonymous said...

So , all council any of them it always guilty forever what they did wrong bez of mark paid tons of money to anyone cover up they do know what they did wrong ! Hope in the future need to stop and tell the truth story but we will have made true story movies . I can't wait to see!