Wednesday, February 18, 2015

Was Frank Trask San Pasqual Indian "ancestor" What Al Sharpton Would Call a "White Interloper"?

We had a post on the family history of current on San Pasqual's Lawson Family which included a link to the history of their ancestor Frank Trask who they claim lineage from.  Here's a picture of that "Indian" man.   While determining ancestry from a picture is not possible, was wavy hair a norm from Native men?  This picture was around the early 1900's.
Frank Trask
Here's a picture of Kumeyaay men from 1920, looking quite....dissimilar


Information from the BIA shows that  Allan Lawson Sr is from Mesa Grande, not San Pasqual. It's on a request for surplus demountable housing.  That in order to receive the house, it was accepted that he's from Mesa Grande.

Frank Trask was a judge appointed on the San Pasqual Reservation and was always mentioned as a "white caretaker" of the reservation.      The BIA relied on a 1910 "San Pasqual Census" to make this man 1/2 Indian. In 1910 this man was listed as an "Indian" in Mesa Grande and again in a township in "Escondido." The only reason he is listed as "indian" is because he married an Indian from Mesa Grande. Not only that, the own mother in a letter dated in 1920 wrote to the BIA and told them Frank Trask was not Indian nor any of the immediate ancestors.The BIA has known about this error since early 1900's, and until this day they refuse to fix it. In the meantime, the real descendants of the band are being keep out of their own REZ!
 

61 comments:

Warrior Pontas blanco SPB said...

This is very true and so correct THE TRASKS and there descendents are in NO shape or form "blood of the San pasqual band"..As required in our constitution.
These folks have been leaching from this tribe for many many years now..and each day continue to leach and play the part of San pasqual Indians..there paper trail is exposed and evident at www.Facebook.com/reztalk

Anonymous said...

If you find that intresting You should see the photo of a full blooded San Pasqual Indian. I wonder what Al Sharpton would say. This is a two way street.

https://books.google.com/books?id=7m4cv90BU5IC&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=jose+juan+martinez+san+pasqual&source=bl&ots=0cG5Qso7DA&sig=WqOsrKbprWy4hieQjFX3f5rnpV4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MCPmVK2NK9LAgwTs7YDYDQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwBQ

Anonymous said...

Looks like Original Pechanga is getting paid to do other peoples dirty work. Keep it classy OP.

Anonymous said...

Does the truth hurt?

Anonymous said...

Very sad that a man from the past decided to lie, cheat, and steal from the meak. He also tought his children and grandchildren how to do it condeming them with him. One day one of them will wake up and start teaching his kids honesty and integrity. What does a man profit to gain the world and loose his soul?

Anonymous said...

If there is scrutiny towards this family shouldn't all the other families of this broken tribe be scrutinized as well? From the QuisQuis's, Contreras's, Alto's, Orozco's, and Martinez's.

In the Spirit of Adam Castillo said...

The only reason they made Frank Trask Indian was to have the Lawson family "eligible" for membership. If Frank Trask is not 1/2 Indian they will NOT be eligible for membership. Also, MESA GRANDE Indian blood does not make you San Pasqual. In this case, let's fix everyone's mixed blood and make it the real Indian way, TOTAL BLOOD for EVERYONE. 1/2 Apache + 1/2 Navajo = 1/2 Total blood - Eligible for Navajo or Apache, MY CHOICE, NOT BIA'S CHOICE.

Anonymous said...

So Frank Trask went from part Mesa Grande to zero native blood??? Sounds like you cant sort out your facts.

Anonymous said...

This is typical of many tribes. Members are OK with other members being in the tribe until they don't get what they want. There is always an underlying story. The issue with the Hunters at Pechanga, the family from Chukchansi, the Alto's from San Pasqual, the Brittain family from Pala. In all these cases it was corruption in the tribe that was brought to light

Anonymous said...

Frank Trask was never Indian, the BIA made him Indian, records link him to Mesa Grande because of the Mesa Grande wife.

In the Spirit of Adam Castillo said...

Read the history of the Trask's, you'll understand why I mentioned Mesa Grande, facts are straight, these people are Mesa Grande pretending to be San Pasqual (except Frank Trask), they stole San Pasqual since 1909. History does not lie.

Anonymous said...

That makes a lot of sense.

Anonymous said...

https://www.scribd.com/doc/254339815/BUREAU-OF-INDIAN-AFFAIRS-LA-CHAPPA-LAWSON-TRASK-FAMILY-HISTORY

Warrior Pontas blanco SPBL said...

Come on now!..INDIAN COUNTRY"..Let's get right down to it!..The paper work Is EVIDENTIAL!.Frank Trask was appointed a "CARETAKER"..NOT AN INDIAN"...but FRANK Took it the "To THIEVING LEVELS from birth rights to becoming a land extortioner"along with his family buddie Mr. Bevington.. who."Burned out and BAMBOOZLED the TRUE BLOOD KUMEYAAY BLOOD LINE out of there homes..... Ms. Rockwood..wrote in her book.."The greedy eyes of the Ohio folks..were layed upon the San pasqual Valley".. That Lady saw the GREEDINES...of the OHIO WHITE MAN and lived to write about it!..And until this day FRANK TRASKS~ white Descendents are still "Thieving" leachin" Robbing"" Manipulating Government Funding..but!!.. THE SAN PASQUAL TRIBE". Belive this! THE REAL SAN PASQUAL BLOOD OF THE BAND IS counting every dime & DAY they leach and. juice~up "Birthrights and Benefits" all the way..Since and From.1910. Y'all natives think...you have CASE?..."HISTORY IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.....EXPECT !US!..

In the Spirit of Adam Castillo said...

Very well said Warrior Pontas (Y)

Warrior Pontas blanco SPBL said...

Thank u Sir..Spirit of Adam Castillo.. "We must speak the truth my brother..The spirit of truth demands this of us.
:)

Anonymous said...

We the true San Pasqual descendents challenge any outside source that believe that these trask descendents have one drop of San Pasqual blood they do not and the bureau knows it . Do your job correctly and get it right ! Certified documentation at the bureaus own archives !

Anonymous said...

The claim is that they are descendants of the Guachena's. They are San Pasqual but i have yet to see the connection.

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Anonymous said...

I hate to be an advocate of the family that Original Pechanga has put assault on but if research beyond the 1910 census that is avail lines the Lachappas with the Guachenas who are San Pasqual Indians I believe there is negligence in reporting. Too many assumptions and not enough facts. I state this in the matter that prior to 1910,Trasks resided in San Pasqual and he did in fact marry and Indian woman. Her descent should be a main factor regardless of Trask descent. I question the facts because San Pasqual Indians did reside in Mesa Grande...in 1849.

Anonymous said...

Pardon me. I misspoke. There are still San Pasqual indians that reside in Mesa Grande. Till this day.

Anonymous said...

Not all San Pasqual Indians went to Mesa Grande after the Trask family burned them off of their land at the original village.

They make the claim they descend from San Pasqual Indians, but that is in dispute. No one says they are not Indians. The Trask descendants are NOT San Pasqual Indians.

Frank Trask was the descendant of the white pioneers. He had NO San Pasqual blood. He had NO Indian blood. Any claim to the contrary is a lie.

Anonymous said...

Don't rely on the 1910 federal census records. Frank Trask was WHITE back in 1880. From 1903 to 1909 he WASNT a San Pasqual Indian. All that happened was he married a 1/2 blood Mesa Grande woman and had 2 kids. When the San Pasqual refused to go on to the land the government set aside for them, Trask was hired to make sure no one squatted on the land and preserve it for the San Pasqual. All census records in 1920's state, after Frank's death, the wife and kids were from Mesa Grande. After he died, his mother responded to the BIA that he was NOT a San Pasqual Indian. So, they don't belong on the land or enrolled.

Anonymous said...

Funny thing is!!! Reztalk/ quis quis father is Mesa grande. His native bloodline comes from the damron family= Mesa grande. Quis quis is his adopted name, Wagner is more like it... Sorry hummayy minus your dads, non San Pasqual blood , you my friend also do not poses enough blood of the band.

Your A Trasker Looser said...

Ugggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh, Alto, Trask, nonsense. Don't you have anything constructive to move the tribe forward? Guess not, Alto. Trask sycophant.

Anonymous said...

Why would the Altos support anything about the Trask family. That is complete nonsense. The Altos were exposing the truth and were excommunicated.

Your A Trasker Looser said...

You mean after you did the Trask dirty work keeping out the Martinez family who BELONG? Alto-Trask political bedfellows!

Anonymous said...

Name one reason how the Altos tried to keep the Martinez family out? Altos voted to lower blood quantum, elders of the Martinez family did not... Contreras decided to have a meeting on his own so he could try to overthrow government. Martinez issue was never even brought up at meetings. It was an enrollment committee issue not General Counsel. You want to talk to someone whos a flip flopper, talk to Rudy Contreras. He'll answer all your questions or dodge the crap out of them.....Also awaiting your reply for "dirty work". You are just misinformed. I'm sure I could clarify it for you.

MiCreeNi QuashMah said...

I have witnessed the tourmoil that government involvement cause within tribal rolls. I have seen the blood quantum cause the death of nations . This is what you all should look to and stop counting the pennies you spend today. when land does not exist you will still be your families child stand up and except your family until you do everyone will be stealing from your forever and you will be a victim not a sovereign tribal citizen

Anonymous said...

Alto not against the true blood Martinez family? Rudy Contreras?

Well, on April 10, 2005, it was Allen Lawson (Trask) and Angela McNeil (Alto) that made phone calls telling the general membership the Constitutionally called meeting was canceled. Despite their disgusting politically motivated behavior, members came to the meeting, a quorum was made and a vote taken to enroll the Martinez descendants. After the meeting, along with the chairman of the enrollment committee and Rudy Contreras hand delivered the paperwork to the Bureau to be processed. So don't for one minute give us that b.s. that the Alto's were for the enrollment of the true blood Martinez kids. Now has Lawson (Trask) bought Rudy today? Don't know.

Anonymous said...

The Alto's never supported the enrollment of the Martinez line.
Why did Rudy Bayonne tell Robert Morales to shut up at the next meeting? Why did the little guy with Rudy at the meeting take the first swing at Chris Morales and start a brawl? That isn't support.

Anonymous said...

The Trasks want everyone to believe they have San Pasqual blood. They don't. The Lenora's mother was Mexican and her father was Mesa Grande. They are Mesa Grande. Not San Pasqual.
Were there some San Pasqual that went to Mesa Grande. Yes, some through marriage. In the 1870's, some because they were burned off the land by the white pioneers, Frank Trask's step father.

Duro_liketherock said...

Personal vendettas are a small aspect compared to the whole picture. There are a tremendous amount of events that have happened between families on the reservation. That doesn't mean everyone is forgiven but there are bigger issues to be dealt with. If you would like a list of some of the crimes on the reservation I would be happy to inform the general public. However I don't think rubbing peoples names in the dirt is a good practice because after all, We are all connected.

Anonymous said...

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San Pasqual Indian said...

Yes, QuashMah and Duro:

So let's going together and be sure that the Trasks, who do not belong on the land or in the tribe and removed, then family can sort this out. Right?

San Pasqual Indian said...

BTW, it is really easy to determine who and who are not San Pasqual Indians, between 1852 and 1909 all of the census records are available. If not on those village records, then done. Trasks, OUT! Creeepy thieves, anyway. Allen Lawson is a disgusting pig, Cheryl Calac, hangs on her brother, and Dave Toler is a pathological liar, whose family abused native woman. They still think they have the 'pioneer' right to steal from the natives of San Pasqual.

Anonymous said...

Good point, Duro. So why don't ALL of the San Pasqual stick together and make sure the Trasks are removed once and for all. They are NOT San Pasqual Indians; they do not belong on the San Pasqual land; and do not belong enrolled in the San Pasqual tribe. That is where we all need to move

Duro_liketherock said...

Great Point Anonymous,and we do agree however there are some leaders within certain families that have a different agenda. We also agree with "San Pasqual Indian" that the census records prior to 1910 are instrumental in showing ancestors who were part of the Kumeyaay San Pasqual people. Trask descendants neither have a materenal nor paternal relation to anyone on the census prior to 1910. The wheels are in motion and the BIA will, at some point and time, correct the mistake that was made. No one can argue that San Pasqual is not a broken tribe, and the Trask family resided(lived alone) in the TRIBES designated lands for over 40 years. This is how they took advantage of the true San Pasqual. With due dilegence and prayer we believe changes are coming.

Warrior Pontas blanco SPBL said...

Duro little Rock..Those are some.."true words" With "Diligence and Prayer".. a change is going to come..ooooh Yes...my brother...its comming ..As lighting comes from the East..So will the big change. ..Rattle"Rattle"..1852-1909..the new song..Pechanga blog has cool forum history..:)

Anonymous said...

I've known the Trask, Toler, Lawson, Herrera family all my life, and they are who THEY say they are, not what is published here and on another website. Where is the substantiating information to prove who YOU all are?

Anonymous said...

I do believe the Trasks believe they have rights. The only way they feel its ok to steal the S.P. identity is to believe the lies their fathers and grandfathers told them. A foundation build in the sand will crumble with a strong wind!!!

Anonymous said...

The Trasks will realize its not the ritches this world offers but the next. They do have native blood but live in Satans grip. Open your eyes and repent. The lord will come as a thief in the night and your soul will recieve its reward.

One With All The Documents said...

Anonymous: You say "I've known the Trask, Toler, Lawson, Herrera family all my life, and they are who THEY say they are, not what is published here and on another website. " First, you should be ashamed of yourself associating with the pioneer ancestor thieves. They are NOT who they say they are. They claim they are San Pasqual. They are NOT! The True San Pasqual will get back their land and their tribe. Just you wait and see. There are thousands of documents that support the true San Pasqual descendants and the fact the Trasks DO NOT BELONG at San Pasqual!!!

Anonymous said...

Once again, WHO ARE YOUR PEOPLE? Let's see the documentation of YOUR family. What's shameful is how you divert attention from your family history to the family who legitimately kept the San Pasqual Indian Reservation intact for the past 106 years. If you made a trip to the National Archives in Washington, D.C. and took the time to personally search government documents from 100 years ago, you would be qualified to speak of the true history of the San Pasqual Indians. Till then, maybe you should focus on and post YOUR OWN family history.

Anonymous said...

Their is no future in lying, cheating, and stealing. Lying to your wife and kids. Stealing from S.P. descendants. And cheating yourself from a greater future.

Anonymous said...

Their is no future in lying, cheating, and stealing. Lying to your wife and kids, stealing the S.P. identity and cheating yourself of a positive future.

Anonymous said...

I'll ask again, "WHO ARE YOUR PEOPLE?" I am proud to know the family who legitimately kept the San Pasqual Indian Reservation intact for the past 106 years. If YOU had gone personally to the National Archives in Washington, D. C. and pored over original century-old government documents and letters, you would know the truth about San Diego County Indian history and the history of the San Pasqual Indian Reservation.

Anonymous said...

If you ask the accused if they are S.P.. And they truly believe they are then they have commited no crime. But if they know they are not and continue as if they were then pray for them because greater is he who is in you then he who is in the world.

Trask Buster said...

OMG, I think I am going to be sick. You state that the Trask family has kept the Reservation together for the San Pasqual Indians. That is garbage. If you look at the documents in the National Archives, the California State Archives, etc., it is very, very clear, Frank Trask was the white descendant of the white pioneers that stole the original village from the true San Pasqual. After Frank Trask married the 1/2 Mesa Grande Lenora LaChappa and spawned two more thieves, Amos Frank got him hired as a caretaker of the San Pasqual land. After he died, the daughters refused to ALLOW the San Pasqual Indians on their own reservation. After this was exposed before the California Senate, the Bureau had to assist in getting the San Pasqual on their own land. The Trask family have created enrollment problems for the Bureau and the true San Pasqual Indians ever since. The Trask, Toler, Lawson, Calac, etc families not only do not belong on the land but do not belong enrolled in the San Pasqual Band or the tribal government. They are NOT San Pasqual Indians. They are thieves who still hold a white pioneer mentality . . . steal anything you can from the Indians.

Anonymous said...

Uh, where is the documentation of YOUR family history? As a well-known Special Agent to the California Indians noted in the early 1900s in one of his Annual Reports concerning the San Pasqual Indian Reservation: "Efforts have been made by various persons within the last 20 years to have this reservation set aside or cancelled. The Congressional delegates have made promises regularly every 2 years to try and have the reservation abolished, but without success."

Anonymous said...

Uh, if you are implying Trask that someone should thank you, you are sorely mistaken. Being appointed a paid caretaker does not give San Pasqual blood, bestow the right to enrollment or the right to remain. The Trask family descend from white pioneers and have no San Pasqual blood. They do not belong enrolled at San Pasqual. The small amount of blood they have is Mesa Grande. Of course, Allen and Cheryl have mitwok and Pit River . . . so why not go enroll there . .. oh, not enough blood there, either.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting to see YOUR family history! Frank Trask was half Indian, born in 1867 when his father was living in the San Pasqual Valley, and was the Indian Judge for the San Pasqual Indian Reservation, appointed 1910.

Anonymous said...

Ignorant Trask Anonymous who wrote April 8, 2015, WHO is the family. Jose Juan Martinez was a full blood San Pasqual Indian. The Trasks are NOT. Frank Trask was NOT a San Pasqual Indian. See the November 24, 1920 letter written by HIS mother. As far as this whole Indian judge nonsense . . . Frank Trask was appointed, pursuant to the documents . . . . . March 3, 1909 (35 Stat. L. 786) Expenditures for Appropriations included money allocated for employment of inspectors, supervisors, superintendents, clerks, field matrons, Indian police, Indian judges, and other employees. Pursuant to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs report, " . . . Appropriated $50,000 additional for purchase of lands, water, and water rights for the Indians of California, making a total appropriation of $150,000 for the benefit of the Indians. So under the appropriations for the benefit of the California Indians a white man who married a half-blood Mesa Grande Indian was hired as an employee. {the end]. He was not an Indian. He didn't need to be an Indian. He was a white man hired under the Indian appropriation, that's all. Trask. If you would like to see the Trask history, go to scribd and look at the true Trask history and genealogy!




Anonymous said...

April 8, 2015, Anonymous Trask. You are a joke. Frank Trask was NOT any Indian, let alone San Pasqual. That was a lie told by Lenora LaChappa Scholder in her 1931 application. However, years earlier, Frank Trasks own mother, November 24, 1920, advised the BIA that Frank WAS NOT A SAN PASQUAL INDIANS. In fact, she advised he was not an indian at all.

Your claim that he was an Indian because he was a "policeman or Judge." What a joke. Under April 30, 1908, (35 Stat. L. 76) there was money appropriated for the purchase of lands, water and water rights for the Indians of California, making the total appropriation of $150,000 for the benefit of the California Indians. From this fund, under Expenditures and appropriations, money could be used for employment of inspectors, supervisors, superintendents, clerks field matrons, Indian judges and police." So, at the end of the day, Frank Trask, a white man married to a half-blood Mesa Grande Indian was hired under an appropriation to be a caretaker to preserve the land for the San Pasqual Indians. No blood, no enrollment. No blood, no land. It WILL be!

Anonymous said...

Really, anonymous?

Check out Reztalk:

Mission Indian Agency
Riverside, California
December 14, 1920

Mrs. Frank Trask
Valley Center, California

My Friend:

. . . . . . . .
I received a reply from your mother-in-law concerning the land and she says that your husband [Frank Trask] was not a San Pasqual Indian. . . . . . .

Sincerely,,
Superintendent

Frank Trask was NOT a San Pasqual Indian. Lenora LaChappa was NOT a San Pasqual Indian. None of the Trasks belong enrolled in the tribe and do not belong on the land.


Anonymous said...

You can claim your family member was full-blooded, but can you prove it? You apparently focus on the Trask family because you want to divert attention from who your family members are. Frank Trask was half San Pasqual Indian and had an Indian allotment in the San Pasqual Valley in 1894. Your purported letter from his "mother" have no signature or way of tracing, I've checked. As to the genealogy of Frank Trask, Leonora La Chappa, and all the Guachenas, La Chappas and Nejos preceding them, the Trask family descendants have traced them quite capably without any help from anyone else. Would love to see the genealogical trail of YOUR family, but for some reason you never put that out there.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Jose Juan was a full blood San Pasqual Indian and it can be proven with overwhelming documentary evidence. As to you Trask, Toler, Lawson, Herrera, etc., you are NOT San Pasqual Indians. You state that you have traced your family capably, that is garbage. Because if you claim ANY San Pasqual blood, you are either ignorant, a liar or a fool.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting to see YOUR documentation.

Anonymous said...

You will see it when you see it. Trust me, it is amazing. Jose Juan was a full blood San Pasqual Indian.

Anonymous said...

Go to hell, Alto. You will get it when we want you to

Anonymous said...

No, it's not Alto addressing these issues--perhaps there are many out there waiting to see "your documentation," and wondering when that day will come. Hmmm, could it be that you and your family would rather focus on the history of other families, as a diversion, rather than your own? Many many people are, indeed, waiting to see "your documentation."