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Wednesday, July 14, 2010

George Lopez, Outspoken on AZ Immigration Law, In Bed With Civil Rights Violators by Performing at Pechanga

Say it isn't so, G-Lo. We reported that you stood with CUBAN civil rights protestors. You commented on the AZ immigration law that could possibly violate civil rights. But when it comes to ACTUAL civil rights violators HERE in CALIFORNIA.... you help support THEM?

Please CANCEL your performances scheduled for September 16 and 17 at Pechanga because of THEIR civil rights violations.

George, here is a portion of the letters written to Attorney General Holder on the civil rights violations by tribes in CA:


Throughout California Indian Country, tribal officials have taken actions which have denied and/or stripped thousands of California Indians of their membership status and denied them access to federal benefits and programs in the areas of housing, education, health, voting and public works assistance. In some instances, the illegal actions occurred decades ago, however, there has been a marked increase since Indian Gaming was approved and later expanded in California.


Tribal leaders justify their right to systematically deny civil rights and expel their citizens under the guise of tribal sovereignty. Tribal leaders have routinely committed acts to deny Indian individuals due process; equal protection of tribal, state, and federal laws; property interest rights; and voting rights. Theses actions have been carried out in gross violation of laws enacted to guarantee and protect the rights of the individual Indian.


We can no longer allow those who oppose upholding the civil and voting rights of thousands of California Indians to claim that this is a sovereignty issue that rests solely within the domain of tribal courts and tribal law. Few California Tribes actually have tribal courts. Therefore, in most cases, the tribal government officials responsible for the violations of law are the very same people who pass judgment as to whether or not laws have been violated - they are the judge and jury all rolled into one.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

You will NEVER make enough noise to make George Lopez embarrassed to perform at Pechanga. He won't stand up and do what's right like Bill Cosby did with Chukchansi

Hispanic Yes or No most Pechanga members answer YES said...

He went there to visit all his compadres they are all mexicanos remember Viva La Raza to the Masiels and the Barrientos ,Macarros etc

'aamokat said...

Our resident tribal hack will probably again say that our rights were not violated and also the following, "the non members were disenrolled because the facts were not on their side and they were afforded due process of law."

Well the foremost expert on tribal history, Mr. Antonio Ashman who is called a vaunted (much praised) elder on Pechanga's official Web site said in a notarized statement prior to the first written enrollment of 1978 that he remembered Hunter family matriarch Paulina Hunter as a member of the Band.

And that is just one of the many facts that were on our side that were ignored by the biased enrollment committee who decided our fate.

Also, by allowing the sisters and aunts of people who submitted and/or signed statements against us to rule on our disenrollment case violated not only the Indian Civil Rights Act (ICRA) but also the equal protection clause of the Pechanga Band's own constitution and bylaws under Article V which forbids Malice or Predjudice of tribal members.

So how were our rights not violated and how again were we afford due process?

So answer me this time!

I know I sound like a "broken record" but I am going to keep telling the truth until that "record" gets fixed.

Anonymous said...

George lopez is just like the rest of the money hungry mexicans in the tribe, hes not funny anymore,sticks up for the illegals

Anonymous said...

Precisely WHY he should be called out. The Arizona law violates no civil rights and is MORE stringent than the federal law. Cuba does violate civil rights and it's good he stood with Andy Garcia to protest Cuba's action against the ladies in white.

Mr. Lopez, we need you to stand for AMERICANS, here in California, whose rights have been trampled on by tribes such as Pechanga.

Anonymous said...

If George will do the right thing by Cuba, I'm sure he'll do the right thing by those tribal people who have been harmed by corrupt tribal councils.

'aamokat said...

So Mr. Potato Head, the tribal hack or whoever you are, how come to haven't posted here on this thread that the facts aren't on our side and that we got due process of law after I just posted how we didn't get due process and an important fact that shows we are legitimate tribal members?

folks, whenever I can, I am going to try to post his dribble before he can do so on any post that points out that our rights were violated and/or the facts that were on our side.

And then refute his bogus statements before he can even post them again.

It is really going to make him look stupid when he posts his nonsense without even reading what I wrote.

Hey Potato are you going to answer me this time about how our rights were not violated?

Anonymous said...

More hogwash from the non-members. They presume a status they once falsely held, of tribal membership, now terminated, and rightly so. When challenged, according to tribal tradition, the non-members simply could not provide the information and materials to prove they met the criteria for membership. The non-members did not have the facts on their side. In turn, after proper investigation and research, the enrollment committee carried out its duty to remove these non-members, under a written disenrollment procedure containing a simple due process. Their removal then more conformed the tribal membership to the criteria for this status. Nevertheless, these removed non-members continue their project to air their plight while flinging false accusations at Pechanga. The non-members did not have their civil rights or their human rights violated. Instead, these non-members simply lost their membership status for failing to carry the burden of proof of membership. Their removal corrected an error in the tribal roll.

Anonymous said...

Mark Macarro re-elected to 8th term as chairman of illegal tribal council.

Mark Calac;illegally enrolled;theft of funds, corrina R.Garbani,illegally enrolled;theft of funds, Andrew Masiel Sr;illegally enrolled;theft of funds, Russell "Bitch" Murphy;WHITE, IMPOSTER:ILLEGALLY ENROLLED, THEFT OF FUNDS,and Ken Perez;former Chief of Police, illegally enrolled;theft of funds. Benjamin Vasqez;illegally enrolled;theft of funds.
Macarro has served as corruption chair since 1995;he has been on the criminal council since 1992. He is sincerely happy to have the opportunity to continue to loot Pechanga;to serve the illegally enrolled people as corrupt chair;to be the front of illegally enrolled criminals for another 2 years.

Anonymous said...

Chair;aka Clown Prince of Corruption and illegally enrolled corrupt illegal council;posing as Pechanga, seized Pechanga;violating Band's constitution,bylaws, and tribal ordinances. Illegal council executes the will of illegally enrolled; Mexicans stealing Indian identities, enrolled by fraud;erasing legitimate Pechanga descendants.

Anonymous said...

Illegally enrolled and illegal council;Descendants of Mexican invaders;Indian killers are presenting themselves as Pechanga Indians. Andrew Masiel insinuated his criminal family on Pechanga. His mother, Ruth Masiel is a MEXICAN, his father is a MEXICAN?

Pechanga Development Corp is in the control of ILLEGIMATE ENROLLED criminal element which seized Pechanga.

Forged documents cannot hide the fact that they are not legitimate descendants of Pechanga.

Masiel crime family and Casa/Ayal factions have unlawfully enrolled frauds like themselves to hold on to their grip on Pechanga.

Russell "Bitch" Murphy is not a legitimate Pechanga descendant and he brazenly is illegalled and sits on corrupt council.

Anonymous said...

Illegal council posing as Pechanga, seized Pechanga;are violating the Band's constitution, by-laws, and tribal ordinances. Theives are executing the will of illegally enrolled to steal. Mexicans stealing idian identities;illegally erasing legitimate PECHANGA descendants.

Anonymous said...

Imposters continue to presume an illegal status of tribal membership. The only culture and tradition they are practice is theft, imposture;they are practicing VULTURE CULTURE AND TRADITION. They are descendants of MEXICANS and CALIFORNIOS who killed Indians. They are dedicated to continuing Pio Pico's tradition of eradicating Indians.

The illegal enrollment committee, aka THE MASIEL/MIRANDA/CASAS/AYAL/MURPHY,etc criminals do not now or ever have met the criteria for legal Pechanga
membership enrollment.

These criminals continue to violate the civil/human rights of their victims.

MASIEL/MIRANDA/CASAS/AYAL,MURPHY,etc. do NOT and have never met the criteria for legal enrollment;They cannot meet the burden of proof for legal membership so they STEALmembership by imposture and continue to steal franchisements that legally belong to legitimate Pechanga descendants whom they keep off Pechanga rolls.

The errors in the tribal roll are the THEIVES;descendants of invading
LOCUSTS;fungus of Indian Killers posing as ENROLLMENT, PECHANGA DEVELOPMENT, COUNCIL,etc.

FRANCES MIRANDA AND RUTH MASIEL can truly be called the MUTHAS;whores of corruption!

'aamokat said...

I, 'aamokat said on July 15, 2010 1:04 PM

Our resident tribal hack will probably again say that our rights were not violated and also the following, "the non members were disenrolled because the facts were not on their side and they were afforded due process of law."

I presented a fact, such as the notarized testimony from Vaunted tribal elder Antonio Ashman, that shows we are legitimate tribal members and I showed how allowing close family members of people who submitted and/or signed statements against our tribal membership did not provide due process of law for us, a violation of the equal protection clause of the Band's constitution and bylaws under Article V.

Our resident tribal hack said again on July 25, 2010 4:48 PM:

"The non-members did not have the facts on their side" and "the enrollment committee carried out its duty to remove these non-members, under a written disenrollment procedure containing a simple due process."

So, as I predicted, the tribal hack did come here and say his same hogwash that I already answered before he even posted it again.

Folks, don't you think he looks rather stupid by repeating the same bogus statements without any proof.

Again, tribal hack show us how the facts are not on our side and shows us how we were provided due process, I am still waiting.

'aamokat said...

To our resident conspiracy theorist who believes that most of the tribe are illigetimate:

Most tribal members have holes in their family histories and you are not going to prove what you are expounding.

So you are shooting yourself and all the rest of us in the foot who have been wronged by the tribe.

We should continue to focus on showing that the family line with the most holes in their story, the Masiel/Basquez, who have led the charge against true tribal members, are the cause of the problems and heartache we, the disenrolled and moratorium people, are experiencing.

We should also focus on pointing out how the allies of the Masiel/Basquez, the CPP, have acted not in the best interest of the Band and are equally responsible for what has happened.

'aamokat said...

The tribal hack of July 25, 2010 4:48 PM also said,

"Their removal corrected an error in the tribal roll."

So why did the following people who voted us out of the tribe or who submitted statements against our enrollment just prior to our disenrollment in 2006 sign date stamped approval letters and enrollment cards while on the enrollment committee years earlier when when those of us were originally enrolled during open enrollment between 1979-1996?

Raymond Basquez Sr
Ruth Masiel
Francis Miranda
Vincent Ibanez

So the same people who said we were never recognized as legitimate tribal members in 2006 approved the membership of Hunter family members.

So were they lying when we were originally enrolled or were they lying when we were disenrolled?

And why was our documentation good enough when we were first enrolled but not good enough when we were disenrolled?

What changed after the 1979-1996 period?

Can we say the casino?

Also, why did they want a bigger tribe before the casino?

Can we say the tribe got more federal dollars for having a bigger tribe and those dollars were less important after the casino and that having more tribal members helped the tribe attract investment dollars for the casino?

Luiseno said...

....Anonymous stated on July 25, 2010 4:48 PM " after proper investigation and research, the enrollment committee carried out its duty...."

The fact is that the enrollment committeee did NO investigation nor research on there own. They hired an outside expert to investigate and research for them. To which he returned a verdict that the Hunters were ture Pechanga members. A fact that they choose to reject and ignore.

I challange anyone to show me just what research and investigation they carried out besides the research that they hired to be done (and paid a hefty fee for), which proved we belonged in the Tribe.

'aamokat said...

Luiseno said:

"I challange anyone to show me just what research and investigation they carried out besides the research that they hired to be done (and paid a hefty fee for), which proved we belonged in the Tribe."

What my family member says is true and I would like people such as Mark Macarro and our resident tribal hack to answer this question with facts and not general statements.

Macarro has said things like, "after lengthy complex investigations involving genealogy some people were found not to meet the requirments for tribal membership."

So Mr. Macarro what genealogy studies are you talking about as the only study regarding our family history, the Hunters, was conducted by the tribe's own hired expert Dr. John Johnson of the Museum of Natural History in Santa Barbara, Ca who said in his conclusion statement:

"The preponderance of the evidence gathered from surviving documents leads to the conclusion that Paulina was a tribal member of Temecula and Pechanga by virtue of her ancestry from her ancestry from the Luiseno villages of Toulepa and Temecula."

Dr. Johnson also said in a letter to the Pechanga tribal council regarding our disenrollment in 2006, "there is no credible evidence that Paulina Hunter was not a member of the Pechanga Temecula tribe."

So tribal hack answer us this time with facts and not just statements.

'aamokat said...

Chairman Macarro has also said, in response to questions about why Dr. Johnson's conclusions were ignored during our disenrollments that genealogists don't decide who tribal members are as tribes know their own history better than anyone.

Point taken but why did the tribe hire Dr. Johnson in the first place?

Was it because since he was a paid consultant, that it was a foregone conclusion that his findings would reflect the decision that was already made to disenroll us?

But even if Dr. Johnson didn't even do a report on our family history, there is enough evidence that should have answered any questions reasonable people may have had regarding whether we are legitimate tribal members of not and Dr Johnson's report merely clairified the facts in our favor.

But we weren't dealing with reasonable impartial people but with biased people with clear conflict of interests that shoud have disqualified them from ruling on our disenrollment cases in the first place.

White Buffalo said...

Anonymous said...

Mashed Potatoes Posted

“More hogwash from the non-members. They presume a status they once falsely held, of tribal membership, now terminated, and rightly so. When challenged, according to tribal tradition, the non-members simply could not provide the information and materials to prove they met the criteria for membership. The non-members did not have the facts on their side. In turn, after proper investigation and research,”

If I remember correctly it was Francis M. who said that “no matter what evidence is presented they are going to be disenrolled”; further, Jenny M. my mothers first cousin, told us when we were first enrolled in the 80s that if we did not vote the way she told us to she would see that we were kicked out of the tribe. Then there is the letter of decision that stated the reason for disenrollment. Although we had provided documentation to our ancestor M Miranda and P Apis they had a finding that was never discussed nor presented to us in any manner so that we could defend our selves against. Kangaroo Committee. Then there are issues of impartiality and conflict of interest on the committees part, thus violating article five of the tribes constitution.

I am tired of talking to you over and over again potato. Tell big M and big B I haven't forgotten them.

'aamokat said...

But isn't Jenny Miranda a Masiel and not a Miranda just that she was married to a Miranda?

So she would be the former wife of White Buffalo's cousin as it is my understanding that she has a questionable blood connection to the tribe.

But whatever is the case, it sounds like she has a thirst for power and control over true blood members.

Anonymous said...

Jennie Miranda (Masiel) married Lawrence Miranda to get the Miranda last name, and Lawrence Miranda sister is Frances Miranda.

'aamokat said...

What White Buffalo said is true in regards to the disenrollment case of the Hunters as well.

The reasoning behind disenrolling us was never presented to us before we were disenrolled a violation of the disenrollment procedures which, by the way, didn't even exist as a part of tribal law when we were disenrolled in 2006 after the tribe had outlawed disenrollment in 2005.


So the case was not even presented against us until the Record of Decision informing us we were disenrolled and even then their reasons were somewhat vague.

So tribal hack, how again were we given due process of law?

You just keep making this statement without any facts backing it up.

Anonymous said...

Since disenrollment no longer existed as law when the Hunters were disenrolled, then I conclude that we were never disenrolled, and still legally exist as Tribal Members. Just because we no longer receive a paycheck dosnt make us a non-member.

Next election we need to show up in force, and demand a balliot so we can rightfully cast our votes. It is our right to vote in our Tribal elections!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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