#StopDisenrollment: Saginaw Chippewa Disenrolled Reach the Suffering Stage

From the Saginaw Chippewa Disenrolled

What is most tragic about disenrollment is that some have lost their homes, no health insurance and some have major health issues, they are just trying to survive, legal bills to fight the disenrollment has now taken over. It has taken a deep , devastating toll on them all.  

Saginaw Chippewas Disenrolled says Dept. of Interior FAILS to RESPOND in Request to Enforce LAWS

Our friends, the disenrolled from the Saginaw Chippewa in Michigan want a federal judge in DC to keep their lawsuit alive against the Department of Interior which has failed to respond to their attorney's demands. DOI has made it clear they won't act.

RYAN ZINKE urged the court to dismiss the suit saying the disenrolled Saginaw Chippewas couldn't bring legal action against the dept's Bureau of Indian Affairs without exhausting all their administrative options.  OP: Since when is shuffling papers, delay tactics of the BIA and administrative option.  Answer, since..forever.

These actions go back to the Obama administration and it would seem futile to keep asking the department to act.

READ MORE HERE  and these links

DIsenrolled Saginaw Chippewa Seek Federal Recognition
Saginaw Chippewa: Full Steam Ahead on Disenrollments
Saginaw Chippewa Disenrollment:  NO ONE IS SAFE, EVER

Saginaw Chippewa Disenrollments: Statement from the Disenrollees: We are WATCHING - We Remember

We have received information and requests to be published some pertinent information regarding the SAGINAW CHIPPEWA Tribal Disenrollments, as well as the 1982 BASE ROLL of which some current members in control can't seem to be traced to.

We're seeing this more and more, adopted tribal members gaining power and then stripping the citizenship of true blood members

NINA WIND MIK WEN DANA-

NINA WIND NANA GATO WABME..

(The fakes and imposters may not know it means: We are Watching and We Remember)

The Saginaw Chippewa Tribe of Mt. Pleasant, Michigan is currently and have been disenrolling lineal descendants of historic members. Chiefs, headsman, medicine men, people who fought and died for the very land promised to them by the United States and other government entities. 

Our ancestors were lied to by the BIA and the United States Government, denied land allotments, imposed treaties and constitutions. Denied basic rights guaranteed under the constitution.

The Saginaw Chippewa Tribe and the Tribal Council profess to want to follow the constitution and to remove non-members. 

The following are examples of how well they follow the rules and how corrupt they are:

Tribal Constitution of 1986-

Article III Section d-

No person adopted into the tribe shall be eligible to hold the office of Chief, sub- chief, tribal secretary, tribal treasurer or tribal council member.

Violation -

Current Tribal Chief- Frank Cloutier (adopted member)

Other adopted members have held one or more of these positions.

Ordinance 14-

Changed over 50+, dating from Feb. 2,1987 up to as recent as Oct. 10, 2016. The last resolution was done 5 days after the first set of current disenrollments.

These are resolutions only, amendments must be approved by the Department of Interior. Therefore the Tribal Council can make changes at whim.

NO LIMITATION PERIOD-

There is no longer a statue of limitations on any disenrollments, regardless of the basis for the proceeding.

No membership is safe, EVER!

1982 Base Roll

According to a James Mills Report dated September 30,1998. Any member on this roll does not have to prove they trace to any roll.

The chiefs that signed the treaties of 1855 and 1864 for the land that is now the Isabella Reservation do not constitutionally trace to any of the assigned rolls of 1883, 1885, 1891 and 1982. Therefore they are not considered to be Saginaw Chippewa. 

The list provided is a small portion of the people adopted to the 1982 Base roll. Many of these people do not reside on the Reservation, some are deceased and never lived on the reservation, some were deceased long before this Roll was ever established.

Saginaw Chippewa BASE ROLL Pt.1 by Original Pechanga on Scribd

You can find PART TWO HERE and PART THREE HERE 

Why have a 1982 Base Roll if you trace?

Public Act. 99-346

Was established as a Judgement Funds Act for the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe in 1986.

The Tribe was released funds under certain stipulations, one of those stipulations is a non- discriminatory

clause, which they have violated repeatedly by targeting and discriminating against certain membership that

enrolled under an open enrollment period.

Grandfathers Teachings

The Tribe professes to follow theses teaching and to protect their culture. It is evident in the way they conduct

themselves, they know nothing of their culture or of their ancestors. When you do not acknowledge the Chiefs that signed for the Isabella reservation, the hardship of our ancestors , your culture, the meaning of what it is to be Anishinabe you are lost to the Wiindego.

Chief Cloutier and current Tribal Council members:

You bring dis-honor to our ancestors who sacrificed so much to ensure that our people would endure.

Please read the following reports and Books on the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe:

The Gulig Report

An Historical Analysis of the Saginaw, Black river and Swan Creek Chippewa's Treaties of 1855 and 1864

By:   Anthony Gulig, Ph.d July 30, 2007

Supreme Court reversal of Carcieri Implications for Reaffirmed Michigan Indian Tribes

By: Novaline D. Wilson May 7, 2008

Diba Jimooyung Telling our story- A History of the Saginaw Ojibwe Anishinabek

Go to the Ziibiiwing Center and ask to read the archives relating to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe, the true

history of the Tribe!!

RISE UP & FIGHT HISTORIC MEMBERS OF SAGINAW CHIPPEWA TRIBE!

Saginaw Chippewa Tribe: We DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' Tribal Judge Patrick Shannon TELLING US.....GET OUT YOU SICK and OLD people Says Tribe

Sovereignty, being wielded like a CLUB to beat the weak and infirm at Saginaw Chippewa.   The Morning Sun News reports on the INJUSTICE from :

CHAIRMAN CLOUTIER is
SCUM

Gloria Narvais is terrified of what the future holds, and she isn’t alone.

Narvais, Kim Fisher, Sara Starkey, Angela Gomez and other descendants of the Fisher-Ortiz family were disenrolled by the Saginaw Chippewa Tribal Council at a meeting Tuesday - prior to when a Tribal judge was to rule on motions in a lawsuit filed by Ortiz descendants about disenrollment.  Add the SOARING EAGLE CASINO to one of the tribal casinos to avoid.

THANK GOODNESS for OBAMACARE:

Narvais, Fisher and Starkey all have serious health issues but no longer have access to the Nimkee Wellness Center, the physicians who treated them and the medical insurance provided by the Tribe.
Sitting in a Mt. Pleasant restaurant Friday, Narvais, who carries an oxygen tank to treat her interstitial lung disease, struggled to explain her feelings.

MONEY QUOTE:  But Tribal members who might sympathise with the group won’t criticize Tribal Council because “they’re afraid they’ll be next,” Fisher said.
Starkey, who is afraid she’ll have to give up her home, is at times stoic about her plight.

“I came into this world with nothing and I will leave with nothing,” she said. “I will make it through.”

RISE UP against this injustice

Saginaw Chippewa Tribe: Altercation, Executive Privilege, and Disenrollment

Alcohol made him do it?  He wasn't in control of his actions?  He got physical with an elder who is a disabled vet.  What do you call a guy like that?

MR. CHAIRMAN

At least one Tribal member has mentioned a possible recall campaign and said a police report has been filed after a New Year’s Eve altercation between a Tribal elder facing disenrollment and the new Tribal chief.

Chief Frank Cloutier had been drinking that night when George Sprague, who is among members facing disenrollment and loss of benefits from the Tribe, called the new chief a “fag” at the Soaring Eagle Casino, multiple sources said.

Cloutier, along with Stephanie Peters, a former Tribal Court magistrate and former council member, allegedly followed Sprague, a disabled veteran, to another location in the casino where Cloutier grabbed him around the neck in a brief altercation.

After the confrontation, which occurred sometime after 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day, Cloutier is alleged to have been at the Water Lilly, a casino bar and restaurant, and demanded to be served alcohol after the 2 a.m. closing.

Multiple sources said Cloutier was told no, but again demanded to be served, saying that he is the Tribal chief and can do what he wants.

He was not served, sources have said.

One Tribal member has said on social media that a recall is being considered and that Tribal Police have been asked to look at surveillance video from the incidents.

Other sources confirmed that Tribal Police have surveillance footage of the confrontation, but did not know if an investigation was being conducted.


Tribal police do not talk to the media without approval of public relations staff.