Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Pechanga Chairman Speaks Against Temecula Quarry Project: If He's Opposed, Should we be FOR?

The tribal chairman of the Pechanga Band of Luiseño Indians pleaded with Riverside County Planning commissioners tonight to block the proposed Liberty Quarry, which he said would destroy one of the tribes most sacred sites.
Mark Macarro (He who lies to Congress)said the quarry, which would be just east of Pechanga's land, would hollow out a mountain that was central to his tribe' creation story. The mountain is analogous to Christians' Church of the Holy Sepulchre or the Dome of the Rock for Muslims, he said.   OP:  What a blowhard.  You DO know he doesn't live on the reservation, don't you?

"And this mine would literally destroy it, change it forever," Macarro said.

Remember, this is a man who thinks the people of the tribe are worthless and terminated 25% of the tribe, including descendents from original allottees of the reservation land.   Macarro and the tribal council were looking to purchase this land, NOT for the value of the mountain to the tribe, but because it would give the tribe "environmental credits" for building on other areas of the reservation.   Macarro did not present it to the general membership as the "sacred mountain".

Macarro is a charter member of the HALL OF SHAME and you have to ask yourself if he was putting on a show.


Anonymous said...

Ok mr macarro what about Pechangas golf course it was built on ancient sites. So witch is it you want to preserve them or develop them for profit.

Luiseno said...

I remember meetings where Mark spoke about his desire to acquire a rock quarry as he stated that a lot of money can be made in this kind of business venture.

I can almost see the dollar signs in his eyes..... Caaaching!

Luiseno said...

I would like to add that I am also against any development to this property. If Mark is against the proposed quarry, then I am in agreement to him in this matter, but I would add that I am also against any proposal to give control of this land to Mark and his cohorts.

In my opinion he can not be trusted, don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth,

'aamokat said...

Is Mark Macarro kidding? He acts like he cares about Luiseno historical and cultural sites but the fact is he promised in 2002 that if the Great Oak Ranch was put into trust and made part of the reservation that the tribe would do no changes whatsoever but once the tribe got the land as trust land they tore up a large portion of it and today a large part of the Journey at Pechanga golf course sits on that land.

Macarro made the same argument to the United States congress and to the U.S. Department of Interior about the Great Oak Ranch property that he is using regarding the Liberty Quarry project that, by the way, I am against.

Let the public record speak for itself regarding Macarro's environmental and cultural behavior.

Below is from the United States congressional record, April 17, 2002:

Mr. Hayworth. "Thank you, Mr. Avery.
Chairman Macarro, does the Pechanga Tribe have any plans
for development of any kind on the Great Oak Ranch property?"

Mr. Macarro. "No, we don't. As stated in our application to
Interior/BIA, we stated or have designated there is no change
of use in the property, and the intended use and purpose is to
preserve and protect the resources that are there."

Mr. Hayworth. "Without objection, we would welcome that.
Just one follow-up, and for purposes of the record, Mr.
Chairman, does the tribe plan to use the Great Oak Ranch for
gaming purposes or any purposes other than what you have just

Mr. Macarro. No, the tribe does not."

No I don't want the Liberty Quarry project to forever change the fabric of an important cultural and historical Luiseno site but Macarro has a lot of nerve to make it sound like he gives 'one rat's ass' about the land when his track record says otherwise.

Hey, do you think Macarro wants the land that the Liberty Quarry project would be on put into trust and made part of the reservation?

If that is the case, do you think the tribe might tear it up as well and put maybe some kind of amusement park on it or something similar?

After all that would probably be a money maker and like the golf course, an amusement park or similar venture has nothing to do with tribal culture and history.

'aamokat said...

Below is a link to the history section from the Journey at Pechanga website that shows the golf course is on the Great Oak Ranch property. So the tribe did trade irreplaceable historically and culturally senstive land for golf.


The native history of the Pechanga Band of Luiseño Indians is deeply implanted in every fertile yard of Journey at Pechanga. The cultural heritage and connection to the land runs deep and is virtually inseparable. The very name "Pechanga" means "place where the water drips," a fitting description so in keeping with the beautiful and natural water features that abound on this magnificent course.

Journey is built on a portion of Pechanga’s ancestral land that has been their "home" for countless generations. This land is also home to "The Great Oak" – one of the largest natural-growing, indigenous coast, live oak trees in the United States and estimated to be anywhere from 850 to 1,500 years old.

To the Pechanga people, the land that Journey is built upon, and the Great Oak that stands upon it, carries meaning that far transcends mere physical presence. The Great Oak, for example, has come to embody the very identity and character of the Pechanga Band: strength, wisdom, longevity and determination.

The Pechanga Tribe’s devotion and deep "connection to the land" makes playing the course at Journey all that more awe-inspiring. So when you’re out there on the pristine greens, enjoying every exhilarating minute, take a moment to pause, breath deeply and appreciate your surroundings…you too will feel the connection to this very special land that the Pechanga people hold so dear.

White Buffalo said...

The great Oak represented Life for the people.

It makes me want to gag when I see these things that the corrupt are doing. We all know that what the leadership and by extension the people of Pechanga are doing. Power and greed are the motivating factors of a people who used to live off the acorn and in the fall went to the mountains and gathered them together for they knew that was what would sustain them throughout the year. Now it is nothing more than contention and lies

White Buffalo said...

I do know Mark Marcaro cannot be believed or trusted when it comes to sacred sites as he professes, for 25% of the Journey golf course was built on land that Marcaro told a senate committee was historically significant culturally when the band was seeking to increase their land base by having said land placed into trust. When called on the inconsistency of land use his brother John Marcaro said that once land was placed into trust by the government they the Pechanga tribe could do as the pleased with it. You decide is it an ancestral claim, or the Pechanga tribe wanting a share of the profit, or they see the project adversely affecting their bottom line which is profits. If they can lie to congress and get away with it then it is not such a far step to believe they would lie to the people of Temecula

'aamokat said...

Since we don’t want to resort to hearsay, unlike what the tribe did to us when they disenrolled us, here is the quote from Pechanga general counsel John Macarro from the Press Enterprise newspaper on March 23, 2008 where he says, in effect, that once land is put into trust that they can do whatever they want with it regardless of past promises not to do any changes to it. He is accurately quoted here below.

In response, Pechanga's General Counsel John Macarro, wrote, "Once the land is placed in trust, a tribe has complete zoning and planning authority over it and can change land uses just as a county or city can change or update its general plan or zoning designations."

So we have Mark Macarro promising the United States Congress that no changes would be made to the Great Oak Ranch property and his brother John saying, tough luck, to any critics of them going back on their word.

Anonymous said...

Pechanga's leader Macarro is a known liar, yet people are surprised that he lies....

His first wife ain't surprised...

Anonymous said...

Why would first wife be surprised? She is not only a liar; she's a thief!

Anonymous said...

Dint you know his first wife is butch muphys sister.

Anonymous said...

Elizabeth Murphy Macarro

How are they related to Hunters?

smokeybear said...


Anonymous said...

who they related to? Russell Murphy has many aliases.

How did they connive their way in?