Monday, March 31, 2008

Pechanga Corruption: A Lie is as good as the Truth, if we can get the Interior Department to believe it

OP: Pechanga LIED when they told the Interior that they wanted 296 acres to maintain cultural significance to tribal life. There were very few tribal golfers back then, and fewer good ones.


Silver said tribes sometimes lose sight of that goal once a fee-to-trust transfer is approved. He cited the Pechanga Band of LuiseƱo Indians' application to transfer of 296 acres into fee-to-trust in Temecula as an example:

According to its stated purpose at the time, the tribe wanted to maintain existing cultural resources and native vegetation of cultural significance to tribal life, Silver said. Pechanga asserted in its application that given the "vast occurrence of cultural resources found on the site, no development is proposed."

Based on that assurance, the Bureau of Indian affairs concluded in March 2001 that the proposed annexation would not harm the environment. By early 2007, however, the tribe was building a golf course on a portion of the land, Silver said.

"This golf course development was especially troubling given the parcel's location within...the Western Riverside County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan," Silver said.
The majority of the 296.29 acres had been designated potentially sensitive habitat.
In response, Pechanga's General Counsel John Macarro, wrote, "Once the land is placed in trust, a tribe has complete zoning and planning authority over it and can change land uses just as a county or city can change or update its general plan or zoning designations."

Meaning: Just because we said we wanted to maintain cultural sites and don't propose development if you just give us the land free, doesn't mean we can't put a golf course there.


Anonymous said...

Well, there are no good ones now. They disenrolled anyone who could play. The lying is still going on though because all of the liers are still in the tribe. Federal Government can't you see how corrupt Pechanga is. They lied to you about this trust land and they are lying to you about everything else they open their mouths up about. Shame Shame Shame

Anonymous said...

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Your gonna keep Victor busy!

Anonymous said...

we are with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

crazy a pechanga would even reply to that.... golfing indians from southern california.

Sound like Rod Curl to anyone else besides me?

The Redding Rancheria did the same thing here only instead of kicking people out (which they did too actually) they built a casino and then a hotel on top of two different Wintu sites that are villages of the Wintu Tribes ancestors not the Redding Rancheria which is mostly Pit River indians whose lineage is from the area east of redding.

The rancheria in redding was allowed to destroy these two sites for there own development and economic needs not only without the wintu tribe being recognised or benefitting from them, but also sought to exspand trust land holdings in the wintu tribes territory while not assisting or supporting the wintu tribe in anyway for recognition or seeking housing even for its elders.

Its sad now tribes just use cultural as an excuse for these things. To me its reminicent of having a jewish senator fight for the mascot issue no one really cares about, or how everything is so hush hush around archaeological recon when its tribal or private development development is greenlighted while cultural resourses are backseated beacause of really bad instances where large tribes that have lawyers and millions of dollars just do whatever they want and leave (like us the wintu) there to take the brunt of the hate from the community... especially when trying to get up the little momentum a non-recognised tribe can at BIA.

Tribal leaders doubling back on promises to feds or local agencies makes us all look bad and makes it hard for all tribes to regain REAL Traditional cultural properties in the future.

(question) maybe marc maccaro and the othjer millioaire pechangas thought that a golf course was kuth mititgative efforts to increase your tribal takes? And hey admin were'nt you all disenrolled indians millionaires at pechanga millionires too before you got kicked out?


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Anonymous said...

the wintu link:

Anonymous said...

anonymous said in the above"
"were'nt you all disenrolled indians millionaires at pechanga millionires too before you got kicked out?"

The answer would probibly be a yes, the diffrence is how/what we did while enrolled. a HUGE percentage of my income went to several familys that were on the moratorium (I helped several familys whom I felt deserved a percentage of the income from the casino), probibly 1/3 of my income went here. I donated a large percentage of my income (off the top before helping out those in the moratorium) to the local poor and needy. I used the rest to pay off all my debits (because I knew this was coming).

So YES, I guess you could say we were rich (if you look at my tax records), but I didnt live like a rich person, I didnt drive a fancy new car, and didnt buy a large home (my home is very small, and was paid for long before I received any income from the tribe).

Anonymous said...

The Disenrolled, millionaires,never were, not even close. Current members after disenrollments & newly passed "casino compacts" are getting very close to all being millionaires. Per diems have tripled in recent months. Greed,Greed,Greed. Corruption for Cash!!!! Screw your brother for the white mans dollar. Yes, Pechanga is ignoring tradition & culture in favor of Political power & Financial gain. Pechanga's new "trail of tears".

Anonymous said...

To Quote Ed B. (shortly before ANY of the disenrollments started),spoken to myself and my brother face to face (I was to shocked to respond at the time).

"I want more money, and I dont care WHAT I gotta do to get it!"

Then the disenrollments started... Hmmm coincidence? I dont think so.

Anonymous said...

Washington, don't you see Tribal Government equal corruption. There is no law, no court, no consequence. Not ALL tribes are corrupt, but the ones that are campaigning for disenrollment, revoking health care from elders, expelling children from Indian schools on the Reservations where they live. These Tribal Governments need to answer to someone.

Anonymous said...

You guys got nothing better to do than create 400,000+ page views by clicking your mouse again and again, day after day? I read a lot of the "articles" posted in here, and I keep seeing many of the same responses again and again to different so-called "articles." A blog is'nt really an article fellas, it's just someone's opinion puff piece.

Nobody is afraid, nobody is shaking in their boots. The Fed Gov will never intercede in Indian Country and take down soveriegnty because the legal precedent is far too conveinant for everyone especially the Fed Gov because it removes any accountability and all culpability from the Fed Gov for injustices and law suits.

It's time to move on. What do you think is going to happen? Do you think a court, or an Act of Congress will come along and force reparations and you will all share in 250,000,000 in back per-cap payments? This or anything like this will never happen.

I suggest you start a new blog with a new perspective titled, "moving on . com"

OPechanga said...

What could be better to do, than raising awareness to what some tribes have done to their people.
A'amokat posts a lot of the same responses, so that more people will see it without going through the archives.

The idea is not to make anyone afraid, or quaking in their boots, it's to let people know that there is a difference between the commercials they see and what lies beneath.

We are moving on, those of us that are healthy have jobs, sadly, those elders you have eliminated can't do the same. Some have died because of health issues that you taking their insurance from them, exacerbated.

The Federal Government made the decision to NOT grant the water rights bill that Pechanga pushed so hard for. WHY? Because WE made it clear to them that YOU lied to them about the number of allottees that had rights to that water. It's not only tribal members. So the money spent to send your delegation was negated by THREE people and a lot of letters.

So, it's good to see that YOU admit to stealing $250 MILLION, though that number is rather light.

It should be noted, that WE forced YOU (the tribe) to PAY $50 MILLION more for your Prop. 94. Imagine if you could have that money now.

WE will keep this blog going, because Washington DC looks at it often, for news and to read what YOU respond to.

In fact, invite YOUR friends to see our comments and to add theirs. We do not edit comments, unless they are threatening or porn linked. Come discuss what YOU think is the truth. We've already debunked the B.S. that is spewed about correcting mistakes.

Start your own blog about how we should move on. WE will make our own choice as to how we will proceed. But it will be at a COST to Pechanga, as you will have to pay MUCH more to a new Congress, that we have been courting for years. YOU may have all the Rolex and Movado watches, but we have the time.

Anonymous said...

Wonder how many lies he told his first wife?

Anonymous said...

From Wikipedia CDIB:

Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood or Certificate of Degree of Alaska Native Blood (both abbreviated CDIB) is an official U.S. document that certifies an individual possesses a specific degree of Native American blood of a federally recognized Indian tribe, band, nation, pueblo, village, or community.[1] They are issued by the Bureau of Indian Affairs after the applicant supplies a completed genealogy with supporting legal documents such as birth certificates, showing their descent, through one or both birth parents, from an enrolled Indian or an Indian listed in a base roll such as the Dawes Rolls. Blood degree cannot be obtained through adoptive parents.[1] The blood degree on previously issued CDIBs or on the base rolls in the filer's ancestry are used to determine the filer's blood degree (unless they challenge them as inaccurate). Information collected for the filing is held confidential by privacy laws, except if the CDIB is related to assigned duties.[1]

A CDIB can show only the blood degree of one tribe or the total blood degree from all tribes in the filer's ancestry. Some tribes require a specific minimum degree of tribal ancestry for membership, which might require the first type of certificate, while some federal benefits programs require a minimum total Indian blood degree so an individual might require the second type of certificate to qualify. For example, the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians requires at least 1/16 degree of Eastern Cherokee blood for tribal membership, the Bureau of Indian Affairs' Higher Education Grant for college expenses requires a 1/4 degree minimum.[2]

A Certificate Degree of Indian Blood does not establish membership in a tribe. Tribal membership is determined by tribal laws and may or may not require a CDIB or may require a separate tribal determination of ancestry or blood degree.[3]

The CDIB is controversial, both from a race politics perspective, in general, and in particular, because non-federally recognized tribes are not eligible for the card nor for the benefits which require one. Some groups such as the Freedman, descendants of black slaves who may be eligible for tribal membership are often not eligible for a CDIB because they are not Indian by blood or their degree of blood was not recorded in the base rolls (where Freedman was used instead of stating a degree).[4]

What year did this start because Paulina Hunter was listed on Census Records from the before the inception of the Temecula Indian Reservation aka Pechanga as Head of Household=100% Temecula Indian.

Just so happens that Mateo, Paulina’s father, was born at Pechanga... Ironic because he was the only one recorded at this place of birth in the surviving Pardons from the San Luis Rey Mission.