tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post8545759134425383116..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: The Eviction of The Temecula Indians from Temecula And Testimony from Antonio AshmanOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-45556278778979207852010-11-19T17:34:02.240-05:002010-11-19T17:34:02.240-05:00That member was Frances Miranda wasn't it? I...That member was Frances Miranda wasn't it? If it's the truth, you can publish the name. She'd be proud to be associated with what she's done to the tribe, don't you think?<br /><br />How about it Frances, are you proud to have destroyed families?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22419872098872828162010-11-02T17:31:36.177-04:002010-11-02T17:31:36.177-04:00To quote a member sitting on the enrollment commit...To quote a member sitting on the enrollment committee was sitting in judgment of the Hunter family "you are going to be disenrolled, no matter WHAT evidence you provide".Luisenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716990645661766960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-54449043461774228732010-11-02T17:04:25.326-04:002010-11-02T17:04:25.326-04:00Add on to my last post:
The enrollment committee...Add on to my last post: <br /><br />The enrollment committee claimed they could reject contradictory evidence if more credible evidence was available.<br /><br />So they think convicted child molestor Vincent Ibanez, who wrote a hand written letter from prison, was more credible then vaunted (much praised), called so on Pechanga's own official web site, elder Antonio Ashman?<br /><br /><br />Also, they think current elder Raymond Basquez Sr, who listed deceased elders who allegedly said the Hunters are not Pechanga, with no proof other than Mr. Basquez saying they said it, is more credible than tribal elders Dolores Tortuga and Jose David Rodriguez who gave testimony in the 1915 probate for Paulina Hunter's land allotment that had to be translated from the Luiseno language?'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-86468473554067425722010-11-02T16:47:50.334-04:002010-11-02T16:47:50.334-04:00"Sadly, modern-day Pechanga people didn't..."Sadly, modern-day Pechanga people didn't believe anyone who knew Paulina when she was alive, choosing instead to believe hearsay of people who were born decades after Paulina Hunter died."<br /><br />Actually only some current Pechanga tribal members don't want to believe that tribal members from the historical period recognized the Hunters as Pechanga but not all current members agree with this.<br /><br />Several current tribal elders, including the recently deceased tribal elder Norman Pico Sr, gave legal notarized testimony that the Hunters are Pechanga.<br /><br />So in addition to elders who were alive in the late 1800's who would know who is and who isn't a legitimate tribal member, there are elders not from the CPP faction of the tribe, who also agree the Hunters are Pechanga.<br /><br />But the slight majority on the enrollment committee got their way by just ignoring facts that contradicted their foregone conclusion that the Hunters were going to be disenrolled.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-76594777105683716722010-11-02T14:33:55.084-04:002010-11-02T14:33:55.084-04:00That would make people like Frances Miranda and Ih...That would make people like Frances Miranda and Ihrene Scearse, who ignored that evidence of their own expert, evil and vindictive? <br /><br />If they were "real" Pechanga, would they do that to other tribesmen?OPechangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-58400820066587597712010-11-02T13:49:52.861-04:002010-11-02T13:49:52.861-04:00According Pechanga's own anthropologist hired...According Pechanga's own anthropologist hired by the Band, Paulina Hunter’s maternal grandmother, Restituta, was born at the original village of Temecula. Thus, Paulina Hunter descended from an original Temecula family. This information directly contradicts the statement asserted in Conclusion 4 of the Record of Decision that “Paulina Hunter is not of Temecula Descent.”<br /><br />Also that Paulina’s father was the only Indian listed in the early San Luis Rey mission records who was actually born at Pechanga.Luisenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716990645661766960noreply@blogger.com