tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post5764222089842962991..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: San Pasqual's LAWSON FAMILY Ancestors Potentially EXPOSED as Frauds: BIA in receipt of Detailed HistoryOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22976136556221325042015-02-22T21:23:33.961-05:002015-02-22T21:23:33.961-05:00Good point, Duro. So why don't ALL of the San...Good point, Duro. So why don't ALL of the San Pasqual stick together and make sure the Trasks are removed once and for all. They are NOT San Pasqual Indians; they do not belong on the San Pasqual land; and do not belong enrolled in the San Pasqual tribe. That is where we all need to moveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-38733236880873623812015-02-20T03:18:13.000-05:002015-02-20T03:18:13.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.TOM BRICE, GOD BLESS AMERICA https://www.blogger.com/profile/07556141565925594752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-84755501780047761452015-02-17T11:14:58.529-05:002015-02-17T11:14:58.529-05:00Yes. According to Henry Trask, son of Rosewell Tr...Yes. According to Henry Trask, son of Rosewell Trask, step son of Calvin Washburn, and brother of Frank Trask, it was Washburn that burned the San Pasqual Indians off of their land and the original village. Dr. Johnson is Dr. John Johnson that did the genealogy work for Pechanga that the tribe refused to use because it did not fit within their political agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-15767284645792842802015-02-17T03:40:48.134-05:002015-02-17T03:40:48.134-05:00Who is Dr. Johnson?Who is Dr. Johnson?PascuaYaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-12308732163926295182015-02-17T03:38:09.672-05:002015-02-17T03:38:09.672-05:00Oh, i didn't know that. They burned down the v...Oh, i didn't know that. They burned down the village then were enrolled in the tribe? How does that even happen? I assumed to much. Ill check out Reztalk. Thanks for the information.PascuaYaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50310040536946479292015-02-17T02:28:52.633-05:002015-02-17T02:28:52.633-05:00PascuaYaqui haven't looked at the Pechanga doc...PascuaYaqui haven't looked at the Pechanga documents. However, I have spoken with Dr. Johnson. As to the issue of Spanish v. Mexican, see the history. The Trask issue is NOT the Hatfields and McCoys. The Trasks descend from the white pioneers that burned the San Pasqual from their ancestral land. Now that there is a casino, they are trying to steal the heritage to claim it as their own. See Reztalk on facebook lots of documents, but not all, are posted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-13856688510878111002015-02-16T22:32:08.441-05:002015-02-16T22:32:08.441-05:00Ummmm you are so incorrect." One With All the...Ummmm you are so incorrect." One With All the Records" technically tribal ancestors were NOT Spanish by any means.Technically they were slaves of the Spanish. Also Mexican is not a race. Its a nationality. I suggest you reread all those records you have, or just stay on the Trask topic because you have some falsities in your comments. PascuaYaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-75223607228622453732015-02-16T21:43:42.057-05:002015-02-16T21:43:42.057-05:00I study at Palomar college and one of the issues t...I study at Palomar college and one of the issues that we discuss is tribal infighting, and how different Tribes were actually villages of one tribe. I would like to see "One With All the Records" argument with the Hunter family. It is very similar to the San Pasqual/Mesa Grande Kumeyaay issue. I haven't researched it extensively but were the Pechanga people different from the Temecula Indians?? I also looked at some of the Trask genealogy and it seems that even if he(the San Pasqual Chairman) was San Pasqual he wouldn't have the required blood to be enrolled. Seems that this is a Hatfield and McCoy issue. PascuaYaquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-26908090239015432302015-02-16T19:54:53.544-05:002015-02-16T19:54:53.544-05:00WRONG. ALL of the documents show Jose Juan as an ...WRONG. ALL of the documents show Jose Juan as an Indian, except one (same with ALL of his immediate family). And, there is evidence that has been gathered prior to Jose Juan's birth through decades after his death to show he was a full blood San Pasqual Indian. You are correct anonymous, prior to 1848, YOU WERE ALL INDIGINOUS TO MEXICO. Does that make all of you Spanish or Mexican? Clearly, the move for Independence from Spain start in 1810 but took until 1821 to obtain. So what are you then, because your ancestors were technically Spanish.<br /><br />Now as to the Trasks, the documents show they are primarily white. They have less indigenous blood that any of you! And the blood they have IS NOT SAN PASQUAL. NOT A DROP!One With All the Recordsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-77362792943262170092015-02-16T16:33:10.158-05:002015-02-16T16:33:10.158-05:00I absolutely agree with anonymous's assertatio...I absolutely agree with anonymous's assertation. But based upon research and a multitude of documents Jose Juans mother, father, sisters, brothers, wife and children all have documents that list him as Mexican. However it could be the fact that it WAS mexico and he had citizenship... But he wasn't born till after California became part of the US. hmmmmmmm. Difficult to decipher. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61587824792562027652015-02-16T15:46:11.562-05:002015-02-16T15:46:11.562-05:00I was under the assumption that the Government ale...I was under the assumption that the Government alerted Natives back in the 1850's that they could sign up for homesteads but for those that got them they were to relinquish their tribal status. The problem was that the Indians that were alerted did not tell the others so that they could have more land and water and be the only ones getting homesteads for their livestock and farming. They somehow got listed on the US Census even after they got their land. Considering how much the people distrusted the Government, it makes sense. I could be wrong though. That would explain why some people got land and others did not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16275375459534351442015-02-15T17:23:48.648-05:002015-02-15T17:23:48.648-05:00There is a reason George Martinez is buried with t...There is a reason George Martinez is buried with the other San Pasqual Indians at the San Pasqual Indian Cemetary. It is NOT because Jose Juan was Mexican. Figure it out. Jose Juan was a full blood San Pasqual Indian and a brave warrior well documented. For those of us that have seen the documents, we have lots to be proud of.True San Pasqualnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33067142014335675202015-02-15T02:32:36.611-05:002015-02-15T02:32:36.611-05:00Trask, Alto, Contreras, whites and traitors.
Now...Trask, Alto, Contreras, whites and traitors. <br /><br />Now quisquis, that is true blood. No missing link there. You clearly don't your history, Allen or Dave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-55602865902552903552015-02-15T02:24:29.135-05:002015-02-15T02:24:29.135-05:00You forgot Quisquis. I've heard there's a ...You forgot Quisquis. I've heard there's a missing link in the family. It would be great to see those documents. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-80703364585430459942015-02-15T01:35:11.148-05:002015-02-15T01:35:11.148-05:00No worries, anonymous . . . Trask, Alto or Contrer...No worries, anonymous . . . Trask, Alto or Contreras. When the documents are released you will see how wrong you are.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50569512089588117472015-02-15T00:48:08.925-05:002015-02-15T00:48:08.925-05:00JV wrote "Our ancestors never gave up, neithe...JV wrote "Our ancestors never gave up, neither will we" <br /><br />Then why was Lawson able to be enrolled in the 90's? Obviously they weren't fighting that hard. They did give up. For that mighty dollar. Don't you get it? Its all about money people. What does it matter if your 1/8, 1/16, 1/4. It shouldn't matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-46145386176581236152015-02-15T00:42:36.102-05:002015-02-15T00:42:36.102-05:00That's because he was Half San Pasqual Indian....That's because he was Half San Pasqual Indian. Who even knows if he was full blood. We as Natives today call ourselves Indian and we usually only have 1/4 or an 1/8 blood. Whats the other 3/4? Usually Mexican. Why is San Pasqual making such a big deal about it? just lower the blood. Sycuan just did and things are running fine.SantaYsabel_SheChucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-70226739640333172002015-02-15T00:13:53.555-05:002015-02-15T00:13:53.555-05:00I dont know about land patents. I do know that Jos...I dont know about land patents. I do know that Jose is on the census and trask isnt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-5665188325542982432015-02-14T23:59:51.546-05:002015-02-14T23:59:51.546-05:00Jose Juan was NOT Mexican. Jose Juan was a full b...Jose Juan was NOT Mexican. Jose Juan was a full blood San Pasqual Indian. He did what he needed to do to survive. <br /><br />Anonymous is right. Trask was WHITE.ONE WITH ALL THE RECORDSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-84654300838412746442015-02-14T23:54:12.044-05:002015-02-14T23:54:12.044-05:00Its because Trask was white and Jose Juan was Mexi...Its because Trask was white and Jose Juan was Mexican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-44232868151339807292015-02-14T23:43:48.949-05:002015-02-14T23:43:48.949-05:00How come jose juan and trask were the only ones th...How come jose juan and trask were the only ones that received land patents? What about all the other san pasqual people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-84540878140025371402015-02-14T22:59:15.377-05:002015-02-14T22:59:15.377-05:001870 President Ulysses S. Grant signs an Executive...1870 President Ulysses S. Grant signs an Executive Order creating San Diego's first Indian reservations, the San Pasqual and Pala reserves. A San Diego Union editorial encourages a fight against the reservation, branding it a swindle and as needlessly generous to the Indians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-6750793312637646332015-02-14T21:47:23.232-05:002015-02-14T21:47:23.232-05:00Did you know that the name attributed to Jose Juan...Did you know that the name attributed to Jose Juan does not appear anywhere, in any documents, until the late 1870's? Do you know his ancestral name? Do you know what an Indian had to do to get work at that time? Do you know how an Indian could qualify for land patents in the 1880's and 1890's?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-91092134721529928282015-02-14T21:00:27.689-05:002015-02-14T21:00:27.689-05:00You know Fletcher can not be trusted. When he work...You know Fletcher can not be trusted. When he worked for the Riverside office he allowed some shady things to happen. He was part of the reason we Miranda's and Hunters were disenrolled. He plays sides and will not offer help if he see no benefit for himself. White Buffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418439711300071894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-84357615947922865452015-02-14T18:46:54.881-05:002015-02-14T18:46:54.881-05:00Ha, Anonymous with a sense of humor about somethin...Ha, Anonymous with a sense of humor about something that isn't funny. The only elders you are talking about are the imposters that the Trasks enrolled. Like Trask, they don't know our history! /sounds like you are a Trasker, yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com