tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post4333426209688818693..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: 10 Things YOU Can Do To Stop Lawlessness In Indian CountryOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-17881149252869736962015-02-13T14:13:51.712-05:002015-02-13T14:13:51.712-05:00The government put electricity in all Indian Land ...The government put electricity in all Indian Land to get rid of them. But it fell back on them no more water. Right. They can build other things instead before they lose. Do what's right recognize all descendents.Yep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-57035045166312095782013-01-17T08:49:47.223-05:002013-01-17T08:49:47.223-05:00Great post. I sure hope something would be done ab...Great post. I sure hope something would be done about the unlicensed gambling in an Indian country. While it is difficult to learn poker, it's more difficult to play it with people who don't recognize the law. We sometimes hate it, but sometimes these people offer the best <a href="http://www.pokerabcs.com/poker-tips/playing-tips" rel="nofollow">poker tips</a>, however it is not a reason for them not to recognize authority of the law. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03174968689893785505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-69025121607154804522012-06-21T10:22:17.663-04:002012-06-21T10:22:17.663-04:00Look at how the crime family benefittedLook at how the crime family benefittedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-35657942049997884372012-06-20T19:56:12.392-04:002012-06-20T19:56:12.392-04:00It's also about being able to vote on what per...It's also about being able to vote on what pertains to us. Our lands, the water supply.<br /><br />Why should a non Indian like Butch Murphy and his issue have a say on our allotted lands?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-64172678026440348682012-06-20T17:34:58.781-04:002012-06-20T17:34:58.781-04:00One can laugh about that, yet the proof is in the ...One can laugh about that, yet the proof is in the nearly 200 votes against the moratorium (which passed by only 30 votes or so).<br /><br />And remember, both Manuela Miranda and Hunters on the Enrollment Committee stood up for the Tosobol family. Because it was their right to belong.OPechangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-46584236787302808382012-06-20T17:02:45.915-04:002012-06-20T17:02:45.915-04:00And it's not about per capita, because I would...And it's not about per capita, because I would have happily took less for rightful people to be in the tribe?<br /><br />hahahahahahahaha,....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-56774554954234575382012-06-20T11:38:07.723-04:002012-06-20T11:38:07.723-04:00The first anonymous poster said, "get on with...The first anonymous poster said, "get on with your life, already."<br /><br />Well, fighting for what is rightfully mine, and my children's against those who wronged us.. IS part of my life. YOU made it so. I was content to be part of the tribe, attending meetings, voting on issues. It was the likes of Jenny Miranda, Andrew Masiel and Butch Murphy, along with members who could only think about rising per capita checks that did us wrong.<br /><br />Now, I continue to help OP draw attention to what Pechanga has done by sending letters. Remember, representatives come up for a vote every two years. There is lots of reminding to do via letter, fax or email.<br /><br />And it's not about per capita, because I would have happily took less for rightful people to be in the tribe. Even if the moratorium people were way late signing up, the EC STILL shuffled paper to keep family members out.<br /><br />And even though they seem like whiny people, the moratorium people still deserve their place in the tribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-77328646050315226102012-06-20T11:31:07.709-04:002012-06-20T11:31:07.709-04:00It's just as important to send emails to those...It's just as important to send emails to those who are not on our side. Let them know we are determined. What happened at Pala shows the tribes haven't learned anything. We need to push an economic sanction at Pala.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-27713257434865209702012-06-20T04:26:31.714-04:002012-06-20T04:26:31.714-04:00O.P., the "F" word? Well it was along ti...O.P., the "F" word? Well it was along time coming.... These "Sniviling Little Weasels" are constantly trying to spread "Hate and Discontent," trying to dislodge us from our "Quest for Justice." They never, ever, have anything "Constructive" to say, just useless "Banter." We are getting to them, and it shows. We are now instilling "Fear" into these "Treasonous Leaches," and there is now a light at the end of the tunnel: "Judgement Day," and these "Corrupt and Criminal Elements" will be taken "Down!" Criminals always get caught. There not that smart. They may think so, but their "Not!" "Sovereignty" will start to unravel as more and more "Illegal Activities" come to light. We need to turn the "Heat Up." E-mail, fax, write letters to anyone that will listen, even the ones that you don't think will listen. Bombard them, so they have to listen. It is how its done, "People."...."Eagle Eyes."smokeybearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61647251621485210202012-06-20T01:57:01.015-04:002012-06-20T01:57:01.015-04:00Hopefully Pala people learn early unlike we did an...Hopefully Pala people learn early unlike we did and re-enroll now before this goes on longer and their really in trouble like were gonna be. It's both our corrupt council's fault and everyone knows it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40599443201577718422012-06-20T01:52:06.758-04:002012-06-20T01:52:06.758-04:00Ya as soon as the brittain family is re-enrolled y...Ya as soon as the brittain family is re-enrolled your Pala percapita is gonna be cut haha..that's what u get for disenrolling them illegally in the first place. You have to blame the EC! If Pechanga ever re-enrolled our dis-enrolled our Percapita will be gone completely their back pay is over $500 million atleast PALA's is only like $10 million right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-60117667550703033582012-06-20T01:21:09.373-04:002012-06-20T01:21:09.373-04:00“SO YOU THINK THIS ISN’T YOUR FIGHT” The Margarita...“SO YOU THINK THIS ISN’T YOUR FIGHT” The Margarita Brittain fight is more your fight than you think. There are several implications related to the Executive Committee’s recent decision to disenroll several members of the Brittain Family.<br /><br />Why is it you fight too?????<br /><br />Under the new rules of the Executive Committee they can now disenroll anyone they want to disenroll. Is this really what you want for Pala. You want you and your family to constantly live in fear that the Executive Committee will take away your heritage and your per-capita with a single stroke of a pen.<br /><br />The use of the 1928 Roll as proof of eligibility for enrollment with the Tribe is a violation of our Constituion. Under this new rule by the Executive Committee, Committee members Dion Perez , Theresa Nieto are not eligible for enrollment in Pala because the 1928 Roll shows their family to be from Morongo and Cahuilla and not from Warner Springs/Valley.<br /><br />The children of Leroy Miranda should not be enrolled because the 1928 Roll shows that they are Yaqui Mexican.<br /><br />More significantly, the 1928 Roll shows more than ½ the Tribe to be ineligible for enrollment just as the descendents of Margarita Brittain. Not your fight? YOUR NEXT!!!<br /><br />More importantly to you, when the Brittains win, and they will, are you prepared to have your per-capita slashed in order to pay the back money owed them as well as damages. The sooner this is ended the better it is for you. Damages are accruing at a rate of $2 million a month. Think about it. It will be your debt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-3234020821634729722012-06-19T20:15:06.134-04:002012-06-19T20:15:06.134-04:00What's taking so long for ugly Jennie to be ar...What's taking so long for ugly Jennie to be arrested?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-64022356866269366302012-06-19T14:05:26.465-04:002012-06-19T14:05:26.465-04:00Anonymous said...
You guys just want your per ca...Anonymous said... <br /><br />You guys just want your per cap back just admit it! You people that we're in the tribe at one time knew what it was like, and you want it back! the poor moratorium people have to suffer! they don't know what it is like, oh i forgot this a dis-enrollment website!<br /> <br />June 18, 2012 8:39 PM<br /><br />Well again ignorance rears its pitiful ass. I am not going to go over my families linage again. We know who we are. We have proven so, with historical documentation and testimony from our decedents who were wrongfully accused.<br /><br />As for being a part of the tribe before the casino, well again if you have read any of my post you would know that I remember those days of poverty for the tribe. If you have just read my last post then either you did not understand what I said about the casino, or you are calling me a liar? <br /><br />Care to comment? I will choose to believe that you did not understand that way I do not have to call you names or question who is hiding behind the post. As for the moratorium people they have been wronged, and it is up to all of us to fight those who are wrong..<br /><br />Last question, why are you trying to divide us?White Buffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418439711300071894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-70594525895602995562012-06-19T13:21:22.926-04:002012-06-19T13:21:22.926-04:00Well said op. I'm pala and the only ones who c...Well said op. I'm pala and the only ones who can try n say that I'm not is the pala e c. Me my family and the united states of America have all said I am who I am. So a big F U to the pala e c.United we standnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61859441174367962852012-06-19T12:33:01.490-04:002012-06-19T12:33:01.490-04:00The first commenter is trying to stoke anger and t...The first commenter is trying to stoke anger and that is a good thing.<br /><br />A reminder, it took years to get casino gambling, also Pechanga is working on a water rights bill that has taken 50 years.<br /><br />Time we have plenty of. The people of Laytonville got justice after 20 years. Snoqualmie just took back their tribe.<br /><br />Pechanga has lost some heavyweights now, with disenfranchisement for a few bad apples. <br /><br />It's time to refuel and take the fight seriously again. We have allies from Pala who are ramping up their protests. We must join together to raise our voices.<br /><br />We are causing Pechanga to spend money they didn't want to spend. Their lobbying has been ineffective against the truths we expose.<br /><br />To the anonymous poster who started the thread: FUCK YOU We ain't going anywhere.OPechangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-48577046022142657712012-06-19T10:42:10.452-04:002012-06-19T10:42:10.452-04:00Anonymous said...
Yes put that petition up on the...Anonymous said... <br />Yes put that petition up on the blog. Let the signers see the horrendous damage they have done. Let them be accountable for pointing fingers when they have questionable lineage. Let's see those names. <br /><br />You'd love to find out who signed that "Petition," for then the "Retaliation" would commence. There is no questionable lineage and you know it! How about your "Lineage?" Let us see where you stand! All you have been doing with that "Banter" you sprew out is "Open Mouth And Insert Foot!" Try showing some "Proof." Oh, I forgot: "You can't!" And for me using "Quotes...."Tough!" And as for using the word "Dribble," well the lies "Dribble" out of the mouths of these no account, worthless "Criminals!" ..."Eagle Eyes."smokeybearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-92170051343322270672012-06-19T09:47:30.301-04:002012-06-19T09:47:30.301-04:00Anonymous said...
You guy's just want your pe...Anonymous said... <br />You guy's just want your per cap back just admit it!You people that we're in the tribe at one time knew what it was like, and you want it back! the poor moratorium people have to suffer! they don't know what it is like, oh i forgot this a dis-enrollment website!<br /><br />Why you "Pompous A..! What would you do if they came and ripped away your "Heritage and Birthright to be an "American Citizen, Illegally?" You would fight to regain what was stolen from you with every fiber of you being. If not for you, then for your children. You would be living without a country. Would that set well with you, not being able to enjoy the freedoms and benefits of what is your "Birthright? As an "American," you have the right to "Social Security" when you grow old, Health care for you and your family, and all the other priviledges that are afforded you as an "American Citizen." Then it is taken away from you for nothing more then "Greed and Self Interest, Illegally!" That's what has happened to us. We can prove who we are, as you can as an "American Citizen," and that, my friend, is what it is all about: Fighting to regain our "Birthright and Heritage" afforded us in our "Constitutions and Bylaws" of our respective "Tribes." "YOU WOULD!"<br /><br />Erick, your post is right on...."Eagle Eyes."smokeybearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-46033587190212243442012-06-19T02:13:59.537-04:002012-06-19T02:13:59.537-04:00Are the auto obols the only family in the moratori...Are the auto obols the only family in the moratorium?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-68003634871886425252012-06-19T01:52:20.253-04:002012-06-19T01:52:20.253-04:00There is enough for everyone, so I wish for you pe...There is enough for everyone, so I wish for you people who have a moratorium against you that one day you get enrolled. My grandfather was Pechanga, but we chose Pala and now we are disenrolled. You should not be fighting each other, you should come together and join the fight. Start your own reservation of Temecula Luisenos or Cahuillas,you deserve to be heard too, but don't get mad at the disenrolled. It is the Chairman and the others on the EC's you should be upset with. The hate and greed these people have is sad. How can someone hate someone they do not even know? Pray for God's vengeance now. They are setting up their descendants to suffer, because that much money makes you lethargic and keeps youth uneducated, unless you are somehow miraculously motivated to become someone of dignity. The whole thing is extremely disturbing, but take away their money and see who stands by them. They are surrounded by fake friends which is sad for them, they can't take it with them when they die, but they be paying for all of the evil they have spread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-274925478690075832012-06-19T00:36:00.278-04:002012-06-19T00:36:00.278-04:00I remebet when I was a kid and people were a shame...I remebet when I was a kid and people were a shame to admitt they were from Pechanga so they did not enroll but as soon as the casino was built everyone was from there. Its a shame how the people turned their backs on the people who are truly from Pechanga and been there longer then some of the wannabes who were to ashame to enroll when they were a poor tribe. <br /><br />To you writting the hateful blogs you must be one of the families that only became proud after the tribe started getting money. I will keep you in my prays that you will soften your heart to see the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-63486520402422884612012-06-18T23:47:44.381-04:002012-06-18T23:47:44.381-04:00Calling all TOSOBALS!Calling all TOSOBALS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-60711472770423134562012-06-18T23:39:17.842-04:002012-06-18T23:39:17.842-04:00You guy's just want your per cap back just adm...You guy's just want your per cap back just admit it!You people that we're in the tribe at one time knew what it was like, and you want it back! the poor moratorium people have to suffer! they don't know what it is like, oh i forgot this a dis-enrollment website!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-7865525233042439002012-06-18T22:01:44.473-04:002012-06-18T22:01:44.473-04:00In reply to Anonymous June 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Ther...In reply to Anonymous June 18, 2012 10:51 AM<br /><br />There were more than a few misspelled words, but then again who can blame you. You must be still enrolled at Pechanga. What I would suggest is that you take a scholarship and go back to school.. <br /><br />You basically are advising that we roll over and die. Well that is not going to happen. We know the harm that this has caused, for it is our history and birthright that has been stolen from us. <br /><br />We also know that there is still a criminal presence that keeps the people from doing what is right. We speak for ourselves as loudly as possible. This does not excuse those who know what is right and who do nothing, so we must keep fighting even if it takes decades.<br /><br />As for the casino it would be better for the tribe to not have one, for the tribe has proven it cannot handle the wealth. They do not fix the roads or other infrastructure or care for other Indians who are in need. Once the acorn was the food the people survived on. If someone was hungry or unable to provide for their family food was shared. Now it is everyone for themselves is that the Indian way?White Buffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418439711300071894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40185434886231953062012-06-18T21:55:39.975-04:002012-06-18T21:55:39.975-04:00These are spot on, these things can help. One pers...These are spot on, these things can help. One person cannot fight on their own, but a multitude of people can and at the same time it gives each other support knowing that others are with them. Inundate these people with letters. Look into sights like the Federal Defense Attorney, the FBI complaint form, the IRS, the Representatives from your state, The Department of Interior, 60 minutes, 20/20, and The State Bar Complaint form. The more you do the better your chances to accomplish something and feel positive about it. If you are going to go down, at least go down fighting, and if you can get some of these so called "leaders" to be investigated if they are hiding things they will be caught. There are honest people out there, they just need things to be pointed out enough so that they look into it. Endeavor to Persevere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com