tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post4239030787545445912..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Temecula Indians in Washinton DC to oppose Pechanga Water Rights Settlement ActsOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-44162977690532587422010-10-13T15:35:56.477-04:002010-10-13T15:35:56.477-04:00What is the status on this? Can you get this lette...What is the status on this? Can you get this letter to the general population of Temecula if it isn't too late? I bet you could get the entire Temecula community to send this letter in since the majority are against Pechanga right now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-52065982722287875452010-09-20T22:45:33.073-04:002010-09-20T22:45:33.073-04:00DOES NOT GO TO LINK 'aamokat
http://www.washi...DOES NOT GO TO LINK 'aamokat<br /><br />http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_2956.htm<br /><br />POLYSQWALISAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-35841965692827498552010-09-20T14:13:18.914-04:002010-09-20T14:13:18.914-04:00"I hearby certify that the following schedule..."I hearby certify that the following schedule of allotments (4 sheets) made by me to the Indians residing on the reservation of the Temecula band or village of Indians in California, is correct; that each of the persons therein named is entitled to the land alloted him; and that the same were selected in accordance with the provisions of the Act of Congress approved January 12, 1891 (26 State.712)and the instructions of the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, approved by the Secretary of Interior February 3, 1893.<br /><br />(signed) John F. Carren, U.S. Special Agent.<br /><br />Dated at Temecula, Calif.<br /><br />Sept. 8, 1893<br /><br />The allotments to the Indians residing on the Temecula Indian Reservation in the State of California as described in the above recommendation of the Commissioner of Indian Affairs are hereby approved, and the Commissioner of the General Land Office."<br /><br />Above is from the official allotment record so water rights are for all Temeculas not just Pechanga tribal members.<br /><br />Notice that Pechanga isn't mentioned anywhere so their sovereignty doesn't have anything to do with water rights as this isn't a membership issue.<br /><br />The reservation was set aside for the Temecula Band or Village of Indians not Pechanga.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-77646173692834397692010-09-19T21:13:24.206-04:002010-09-19T21:13:24.206-04:00CREEPER I agree I belive in the boomerang effect. ...CREEPER I agree I belive in the boomerang effect. <br />I just hope that it hits them in the ass and wakes them up commits like these show you what we are up against not much of a thinker. you could not take a bowl of shit if it were given to youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-18037093442236195452010-09-18T18:14:16.289-04:002010-09-18T18:14:16.289-04:00There two companion bills one in the senate and a ...There two companion bills one in the senate and a second one in the House of Reps that need to be defeated as well. <br /><br />Paste the following links and voice your opinion and vote against them as well.<br /><br />http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_5413.html<br /><br />http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_2956.htm'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-82691602895742908352010-09-18T14:59:54.700-04:002010-09-18T14:59:54.700-04:00Anonymus above....
ever heard of the boomerang eff...Anonymus above....<br />ever heard of the boomerang effect,<br />be prepared for that, keep on talking smack....it makes us stronger.<br />Have a nice day.creeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14687278064782904196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-21528378059424504162010-09-18T13:25:04.083-04:002010-09-18T13:25:04.083-04:00We are going to take your water. You know that'...We are going to take your water. You know that's coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-11267267080547132692010-09-16T11:45:19.944-04:002010-09-16T11:45:19.944-04:00http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_4...http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_4285.html#commentform<br /><br />This address is to a page on the Pechanga water rights bill AND it has a place to VOTE yes or NO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-91146441257004849532010-09-14T12:35:00.442-04:002010-09-14T12:35:00.442-04:00Congress and Mr. President,
Mr. Macarro current c...Congress and Mr. President,<br /><br />Mr. Macarro current chairman of the Pechanga Band has lied to you during direct hearings in the past. He is Lieing and continues to lie. Hold him and his currupt council liable for these actions. Bring Justice to this injustice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-18854079389559156532010-09-14T12:30:38.382-04:002010-09-14T12:30:38.382-04:00"HOW CAN A NON-ALLOTTEE (NON-INDIAN) KICK OUT..."HOW CAN A NON-ALLOTTEE (NON-INDIAN) KICK OUT AN ALLOTTEE (FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED INDIAN)???"<br /><br />Simple corruption. The Splinter group of the late 1970's and early 1980's recoiled and spent 20yrs or so poisening the thoughts of some good Pechanga people. They renamed themselves the CPP (concerned Pechanga people). Add the fact of the casino and wham corruption erupted. This same fact is happening at reservations all over the country. These corrupt people are hiding behind soveirgnty. All our ancestors wanted is to be left alone, but the greed and corruption has eroded what we have fought so long for.<br /><br />Allotted Indians should have more protections from rogue factions, and true people understand this. Skelotens will be revealed. <br /><br />Congress is taking this issue seriously. Hearings would be the fair thing to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-23007524691768484212010-09-14T11:40:03.181-04:002010-09-14T11:40:03.181-04:00HOW CAN A NON-ALLOTTEE (NON-INDIAN) KICK OUT AN AL...HOW CAN A NON-ALLOTTEE (NON-INDIAN) KICK OUT AN ALLOTTEE (FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED INDIAN)???injunjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578489352996438645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-56573338474108992552010-09-13T23:18:01.821-04:002010-09-13T23:18:01.821-04:00It's 2010 people, are we really terminating th...It's 2010 people, are we really terminating the last of the "Real" natives that still exist. Washington you have the chance to right some of the wrongs that have been afflicted onto these people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-1464430952440479712010-09-13T20:48:06.801-04:002010-09-13T20:48:06.801-04:00The Executive Office of the President (EOP) consis...The Executive Office of the President (EOP) consists of the immediate staff of the President of the United States, as well as multiple levels of support staff reporting to the President. The EOP is headed by the White House Chief of Staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-14383978877901875582010-09-13T20:40:53.800-04:002010-09-13T20:40:53.800-04:00Yes that is impressive I saw the proof that the hi...Yes that is impressive I saw the proof that the hit on this site and on a few articles!<br /><br />This stuff is getting big!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40673060395289720732010-09-13T19:59:56.767-04:002010-09-13T19:59:56.767-04:00The office of the President of the United States o...The office of the President of the United States of America checked the blog twice. That means this blog has what they are looking for.<br /><br />Congrats to OP and those who support keeping the lights on Pechanga.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-80281824868302915872010-09-13T19:37:32.716-04:002010-09-13T19:37:32.716-04:00Who's carol golburg think she is?Who's carol golburg think she is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-67144401885936321222010-09-13T19:02:09.838-04:002010-09-13T19:02:09.838-04:00By the way, the information that I posted about th...By the way, the information that I posted about the Great Oak Ranch is not my whole letter. I just wanted to point out a specific example of what they did to the Great Oak Ranch property so if you want to use this info, add it on to your own letter if you are writing your own. <br /><br />To the White House people, congress or senate staff, etc, if you read this post, realize that we are dealing with some dishonest people among the Pechanga leadership and that the tribe got rid of a lot of the honest people.<br /><br />To the honest people still in the tribe, and that is a lot of you, sorry but we have to do what we have to do as you aren't going to do it for us as how many of you have stood up to the tribal government over what they did to us? I would say not many.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50974221150925469212010-09-13T18:26:10.060-04:002010-09-13T18:26:10.060-04:00"So when exactly did the Reservation set asid..."So when exactly did the Reservation set aside for the benefit of the Temecula Indians become the pechanga reservation???"<br /><br />It is my understanding that it has always been called the Pechanga reservation but that is just a name of a place.<br /><br />That the Pechanga reservation was set aside by executive order for the Temecula tribe or village of Indians in 1882 by President Chester Arthur. <br /><br />"the tribal constitution said the Temecula Band of Indians sometimes referred to as pechanga."<br /><br />You are correct the tribe, in the official tribal seal that is on the tribe's flag and ironically at the entrance to the tribe's casino, the introduction to the Band's constitution and bylaws, and on the cover page of the Band's constitution and bylaws calls the tribe the Temecula Band and in the introduction it says, "sometimes referred as the Pechanga Band.<br /><br />My disenrollment papers says I was disenrolled from the Pechanga Band so I guess I was never disenrolled from the Temecula Band.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-29920118418893208232010-09-13T18:13:10.106-04:002010-09-13T18:13:10.106-04:00So when exactly did the Reservation set aside for ...So when exactly did the Reservation set aside for the benefit of the Temecula Indians become the pechanga reservation???<br />To the best of my knowledge the Temecula Indians are still the recognized group. Not the so called pechanga group.<br /><br />The tribal constitution said the Temecula Band of Indians sometimes referred to as pechanga.<br /><br />Does anyone have an answer???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-41903999065685447472010-09-13T16:42:42.532-04:002010-09-13T16:42:42.532-04:00"what does this mean for allottees like my mo..."what does this mean for allottees like my mother, Alberta, a non member of pechanga?"<br /><br />If these things pass as they are, she and other allottees would be at the mercy of any decisions the Pechanga government makes regarding her water rights.<br /><br />These bills would wave her right to sue the federal government for recourse regarding any unfair treatment in favor of exahausting all internal remedies within the tribe as they would have all jurisdiction.<br /><br />So Pechanga could conceivingly cheat her and if she complained to the feds they would say they have no jurisdiction to help her, sound familar?<br /><br />We have to make sure that any language in the bills that gives sole authority to Pechanga regarding our water rights is taken out of the bills or they need to be defeated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78509943426494863522010-09-13T16:31:16.374-04:002010-09-13T16:31:16.374-04:00"However, since the transfer of the Great Oak..."However, since the transfer of the Great Oak Ranch into trust, the Ranch has been turned into a staging area for on-going construction projects both on the Ranch and associated with the casino complex."<br /><br />I wrote my own letter and I was more specific on what one of the projects was on the Great Oak Ranch property:<br /><br />Pechanga chairman Mark Macarro testified to a United States congressional committee that the tribe wanted land put into trust known as the Great Oak Ranch to make it part of the reservation.<br /><br />Below is a link to the congressional record from the resources committee dated April 17, 2002 and the testimony is Macarro telling the committee that the tribe was not going to do any changes of any kind on the property and that it was also stated in the tribe’s application for land transfer with the Department of Interior.<br /><br /><br />Mr. Hayworth. "Thank you Mr. Avery.<br /><br />Chairman Macarro, does the Pechanga tribe have any plans for development of any kind on the Great Oak Ranch property?"<br /><br />Mr. Macarro. "No, we don’t. As stated in our application to Interior/BIA, we stated or have designated there is no change of use in the property, and the intended use and purpose is to preserve and protect the resources that are there."<br /><br />Mr Hayworth. "Without objection, we would welcome that.<br />Just one follow-up, and for our purposes of the record, Mr. Chairman, does the tribe plan to use the Great Oak Ranch for gaming purposes or any purposes other than what you just outlined?"<br /><br />Mr Macarro. "No, the tribe does not.”<br /><br />http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_house_hearings&docid=f:78759.wais<br /><br /><br />But once the tribe got the land they used a large portion of the land for their new state of the art golf course which is where their new Journey at Pechanga golf course now sits.<br /><br />Needless to say, the Pechanga tribe changed a portion of our ancestral Temecula Indian land without our consent.<br /><br />So if you want to add this if you are writing your own letter, feel free to copy the above passage.<br /><br />"Carol Golburg supports the termination of Alotted Indians"<br /><br />UCLA law professor Carol Goldberg also fully supports what the tribes have done to individual Indians regarding disenrollments, banishments, and moratorium as to her sovereignty trumps the rights of individuals every time.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-43226054743149120012010-09-13T16:08:48.083-04:002010-09-13T16:08:48.083-04:00Even the Executive office of the President of the ...Even the Executive office of the President of the United States has visited this blog today. <br /><br />Carol Golburg supports the termination of Alotted Indians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40807376725954631062010-09-13T16:05:56.834-04:002010-09-13T16:05:56.834-04:00Mark Macarro is a big fat lier. He and his brothe...Mark Macarro is a big fat lier. He and his brother have sheltered the corrupt people of the CPP (concerned pechanga people). The concept that the Temecula Indians and allotted members do not meet the membership requirments is rediculous. Congress needs to address several issues that have arised. Water rights is an important issue and we applaud the Temecula Indians and allottees who are sheding a light on this action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-1310512798412404852010-09-13T16:00:03.231-04:002010-09-13T16:00:03.231-04:00The DNC have hit this site and checked out the blo...The DNC have hit this site and checked out the blog. have you sent your email yet? Allottees have water rights and the current Pechanga council can't be trusted with this settlement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-73152262023987571922010-09-13T15:34:57.617-04:002010-09-13T15:34:57.617-04:00what does this mean for allottees like my mother, ...what does this mean for allottees like my mother, Alberta, a non member of pechanga?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com