tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post4019609485660243292..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Secretary Washburn, YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS! On Disenrollment PART ONEOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-8398279910244125792014-03-27T22:32:38.782-04:002014-03-27T22:32:38.782-04:00You stated that Washburn said that it was just an ...You stated that Washburn said that it was just an oversight that the website says Articial of Ass. and not a constitution.<br />How could this be an oversight, the Website wasn't built until 2006. That just goes to show you how corrupt the EC is, along with that pussy, K Washburn.Also the Pala compact was sighned under the Articials of Ass.with no mention of a constitution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-799864360293251222014-03-20T23:43:07.470-04:002014-03-20T23:43:07.470-04:00Its really to bad that Robert Smith,and Theresa Ni...Its really to bad that Robert Smith,and Theresa Nieto are allowed to breath the same air as the rest of us. Nothing more than a couple of dirty pigs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-12845084548091043912014-03-09T17:08:15.443-04:002014-03-09T17:08:15.443-04:00And Kevin Washburn says it was simply an oversight...And Kevin Washburn says it was simply an oversight that the Pala Website said the governing document of the tribe was the Articles of Association even as late as Feb. 2012. <br /><br />U.S., State, and Local Governments all have turned a blind eye to the corruption at Pala and Pechanga. Politicians accept campaign contributions, the Democratic National Committee accepts contributions, local governments receive a share of the casino revenue distributed according to the state gaming compact, and every so called charity anywhere has its hand out begging for money.<br /><br />All of them remain silent on the human tragedy of disenrollment and the non-stop theft of casino revenue so the flow of money will continue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-27953941940684648302014-03-09T16:42:43.662-04:002014-03-09T16:42:43.662-04:00Here is a question for Washburn,
if the Pala Band ...Here is a question for Washburn,<br />if the Pala Band had a constition<br />when they signed the Compact with<br />the Gov.of Calif.,"Why was it <br />signed under the Articals of Assoc<br />as their legal and binding Doc's?<br />and not the Constition that Amy<br />Duschbag says that was in effect at that time.<br />Thats more proof that the Pala EC<br />is as crooked as hwy 76.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-27169387868665201852014-03-08T03:16:00.590-05:002014-03-08T03:16:00.590-05:00If Smith & Nieto, are not stopped by what ever...If Smith & Nieto, are not stopped by what ever means possible, they will run the Pala Tribe into the pits of no-return.They really need to be taken out of office, either by the Tribe, or by,force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-6473146832022047412014-03-08T03:06:00.281-05:002014-03-08T03:06:00.281-05:00I really don't know what Pala is up to, but wo...I really don't know what Pala is up to, but word has it that the EC<br />is firing alot of long time empolyees. Some of them have 10-12<br />years working with the Tribe. And Smith & Nieto are replacing them with fresh meat.They hired a Orasco kid as Howard Maxey JR'S assistant, i believe he is the grandson of Loretta (Blacktooth)Linton.And Shannon Cagey has taken over as the senior director.<br />Nick was a maintance supervisor for almost 12 years, and they fired him and Jimbo Goodpasture has taken over his spot as well as the auto shop that is supposed to belong to the Tribe. Ha Ha Ha.<br />It seems that the EC thinks that it is safer to have new empolyees that don't know anything,rather than having long term employees that know to much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-37293726815447825952014-03-07T22:33:46.766-05:002014-03-07T22:33:46.766-05:00There are already regulations on revenue sharing f...There are already regulations on revenue sharing for gaming tribes. These are stated in NIGC agreements and gaming management contracts. Sadly though lawyers like Howard Dickstein and others have taught tribal leaders how to get around the regulations.<br /><br />The problems with revenue sharing can be solved too though. The simple step of requiring independent audits of tribal financial reporting and distributing the audit results to tribal members, or perhaps a more limited distribution to an elected oversight committee on which Tribal officers are ineligible to serve would at least let tribal members know how their money is being spent. From there it would be up to the tribal members to assess the honesty of their elected officers and take any necessary action.<br /><br />None of this requires interference from the US Government except to withhold constitutional approval unless such requirements are incorporated. Gaming revenue really is a multi-billion dollar affair and there are no customs and traditions that can enable tribes to manage such funds. It is in the best interest of all involved that honesty is assured with audit review and oversight.<br /><br />I know that disenrollments are not just over per-capita shares. I guess plain hatred and blood feuds would go into the "people they don't like" category. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-44460320090928148532014-03-07T19:38:13.777-05:002014-03-07T19:38:13.777-05:00Also, diss-enrollments are not just over per-capit...Also, diss-enrollments are not just over per-capita shares. Sometimes just plain hatred, and blood feuds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16581921437854160002014-03-07T19:35:23.530-05:002014-03-07T19:35:23.530-05:00Interesting 3:45,
How would you address RSTF tribe...Interesting 3:45,<br />How would you address RSTF tribes that also might have the same notion or sentiment from "Theoretically Corrupt" tribal officials who want to per-cap the 1.1million amongst a smaller body of members, preferably their own family? Similar regulations on the Revenue sharing tribes as well?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-81596667249172405982014-03-07T18:45:58.149-05:002014-03-07T18:45:58.149-05:00Neither of your solutions is attractive or likely....Neither of your solutions is attractive or likely. Culture change that is imposed by external forces historically destroys the original culture.<br /><br />How about this solution? For gaming tribes that must have a federally approved constitution so they can participate in the NIGC, there must be a provision in the Constitution guaranteeing the rights of tribal members. <br /><br />This provision must state that all members are entitled to due process, equal protection under the law, the right to confront their accusers, the right to review evidence against them, the right to present evidence in their favor, and the right to a hearing by their peers. The provision must also stipulate that the party making the decision at this hearing cannot be the complaining party, and that the decision process must be representative and not exclusive.<br /><br />We are only talking about disenrollment here, but this provision would probably apply to any action that would endanger the benefits of a tribal member.<br /><br />If tribes want gaming revenue, they already have to compromise sovereignty to a certain extent. This kind of provision would also prevent corrupt tribal leaders from leveraging their positions to threaten disenrollment for opposition to their policies and actions.<br /><br />Non-gaming tribes would not be required to include such a provision, and probably such tribes do not have mass disenrollments anyway.<br /><br />So you see a solution doesn't have to have wide-ranging impact. It can be designed to address the simple problem of corrupt tribal leaders terminating the memberships of people they don't like, or who oppose them, or because they want to give larger shares to fewer people.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-20833000756258461262014-03-07T17:58:38.565-05:002014-03-07T17:58:38.565-05:001:28
Proof? With so many tribes in the US you are ...1:28<br />Proof? With so many tribes in the US you are bound to have a wide range of governing flavors., Many human rights abuse's to little to no abuses... I don't think there is a society on earth past or present that hasn't abused the rights of individuals at some point or another to a major or minor degree... humans are flawed by design, we all know this.. we are humans, heck we abuse each-other each day, even the smallest infractions hurt somebody.. <br /><br />Well, I'm not against all of your efforts, I just feel it could use a little fine tuning hear and their, I see us Throwing ourselves at a brick wall that aint gonna move with the argument presented, needs a little adjustment and slightly different approach. There are only a few logic options that I see from my perspective, not that I agree with them but they are avenues that seem to be being pursued or hoped for.<br /><br />1, Congress/Feds Intercede. Exert Plenary Power, and enforce mediation, because of human rights violations., Problem is who and how do you decide when it's appropriate to intercede? Can't this process or mechanism if developed be subject to abuse as well to counteract the legitimate will of a self-determining society by a minority within it? <br /><br />If tribes had the same international standing as nations of the world, their actions would not only be on review in their host dominant nations, but on a world stage as well, with special reporters conducting investigations... but it would be simple to sidestep, the tribe would just need to secede from the United Nations, to not be subject to the investigatory process. It takes a certain amount of willingness to subject to review of an outside body, that tribes really are not keen on, some for legitimate concerns, others not so.<br /><br /><br />2, Other tribes put public pressure on tribes with ongoing disputes, or try to involve themselves in some sort of peace process, Think, Israeli,Palestinian relations with outside nations trying to broker peace.<br /><br /><br />The problem with both scenarios, is both of the parties that might be able to help, really don't want to get involved in the disputes that are highly sensitive and not really all that clear,.. you have to admit our memberships requirements can be pretty screwy and abit arcane to wrap your head around, becaue they vary soo much from tribe to tirbe, lineal descent, blood quantum, adoptees, A list B list, State Census Rolls, etc etc. Or to pick winners and losers, who knows after their findings, maybe non of you really belonged in your tribes, and they rule you non-existent... It might be their ruling is one that no one likes.<br /><br />In order to resolve must find a way to satisfy the concerns of all, and assure a fair process, because everyone's backs are on the wall when you get into their personal space. <br /><br />Keep thinking, keep talking, don't close your mind to all possibilities, even ones you may not like, might hold the key.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-43232523585159612442014-03-07T16:28:02.600-05:002014-03-07T16:28:02.600-05:00I am not personally in favor of allowing the BIA t...I am not personally in favor of allowing the BIA to decide anything for Indians. The entire agency is corrupt to the core. The BIA needs checks and balances too, and some sort of review process to make sure they are doing their job, with consequences for poor performance that include evaluation of the harm caused by failure to protect the rights of tribal members and means of restitution for peoples that have suffered due to agency failure.<br /><br />I can hear the laughter from here. Those BIA jerks have never concerned themselves with the harm their ineptitude and incompetence causes. They only care about tribal leaders who they refer to as the "Band", and the pot of gold they share for helping tribal leaders stay in power, operate casinos, make themselves rich and destroy their tribes. <br /><br />Those who say that tribal sovereignty means that tribes must determine their own methods of disseminating justice need to help us out with examples of tribes that abide by principles of justice and fairness. <br /><br />The Indian concept of justice is most probably completely foreign to those who have experience and knowledge of American justice. It is mostly based on the principle of restorative justice, and consists of bringing together the parties involved and resolving problems in a manner that embraces community and healing. <br /><br />Just crazy guessing here, but I bet tribal leaders that disenroll wouldn't know Indian justice if it bit them in the ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-81668523969989707842014-03-07T14:47:06.107-05:002014-03-07T14:47:06.107-05:00March 7 at 11:11. this is true but of the Illegal ...March 7 at 11:11. this is true but of the Illegal one there needs to be a appeal proses in place and not back to the same people that disenrolled you but ether to a court or the B.I.A.. This is how you separate an illegal disenrollment from a legal disenrollment all base on the tribes constitution and membership criteria.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-47352173815169775032014-03-07T14:11:22.151-05:002014-03-07T14:11:22.151-05:00Need to convince those who diss-enrolled to re-enr...Need to convince those who diss-enrolled to re-enroll, and reconcile with them. <br /><br /> There are cases of legitimize dis-enrollments though. Not all are "illegal Acts" according to tribal law. Some are based on findings of fraudulent enrollment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-71272190690052969892014-03-07T13:30:42.691-05:002014-03-07T13:30:42.691-05:00Lets break it down. In practically even tribes wi...Lets break it down. In practically even tribes with treaties with the US, govern themselves still at the leisure of Congress, who have "Plenary Powers" over all Indian people. This is fact. We have no military, or economic Leverage over the United States,.. at best we have Guilt and the Truth. And those are only as powerful as the ability for the US to feel Guilt or Shame about the Truth of what happened to Native Peoples of this Land. It waxes and wanes, but has not been reliable.<br /><br />Currently we are still in the Era, of "Self-Determination" coming just out of the Era of Termination. Tribes are free to make laws that effect only their peoples, and theoretically those laws can not exceed Supreme Federal laws. I.E. tribe can not make a law legalizing murder/rape/genocide, etc. <br /><br />Indian Civil Rights act was passed, but is not enforceable, as to enforce it would violate tribal self-determination, and Sovereignty. <br /><br />Self-determination says you tribe, figure out how best to take care of your people, the Federal Government will not interfere in the domestic affairs of your governments.... period.<br /><br />The exceptions to these self determination clauses, if if the Tribe willing retroceeds "Gives Back" specific authorities back to the BIA "Federal Government" to manage as fiduciary, "Guardian/caretaker" on behalf of the tribe. This could be to manage the tribes 638 contracts for administration, and services. But it can include things like membership determination and processing. The catch is the tribe has to vote and authorize either, by resolution or amendment of the Tribal Constitution. If authorized, your local agency BIA or Regional Office, would be responsible for processing enrollment applications for the tribe, and determining eligibility, as well as hearing appeals. <br /><br />But what does a person do, if the tribe has been Hijacked, and you no longer are a player, in proposing or affecting a change in the laws of the tribe..... <br /><br />Now, how do we break back into the system, who is going to play good cop, and enforce justice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-66884438845069118202014-03-07T13:17:52.821-05:002014-03-07T13:17:52.821-05:00It would be a good thing if each tribe had a gover...It would be a good thing if each tribe had a government developed by themselves over time that could handle the affairs of the tribe, the finances and revenue of the tribal gaming, the government to government relationship with the US and local governments, and do so with equity, fairness and responsibility to needs of the community. <br /><br />Which tribe has developed that type of government?<br /><br />The one that works in practice is democracy, but it requires citizens to be informed and vote wisely on issues and representatives. Indians seems susceptible to leaders that refuse to serve their constituencies, and instead follow a path of self-enrichment and accumulation of power.<br /><br />The solution is constitutional law with checks and balances of power, term limits for tribal officers, well defined policies of enrollment, and provisions for fairness such as guarantees of civil rights. <br /><br />This is not a new idea, but tribes are reticent to relinquish their customs and traditions. Many tribes end up using a combination of democracy and tradition, and that gives their leaders an opportunity to play the two methods of government against each other to divide the voting base.<br /><br />The real issue in disenrollment is basic fairness. This could easily be guaranteed by prohibiting unfairness, or by allowing mediation by an independent third party. <br /><br />Would'nt most tribal members compromise tribal sovereignty to assure themselves that their basic right to fairness and equal protection under the law is guaranteed against corrupt tribal leaders that prefer wealth and power to the just government of their people? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-11593141025781763362014-03-07T03:35:07.115-05:002014-03-07T03:35:07.115-05:00I keep hearing that the disenrolled should stop as...I keep hearing that the disenrolled should stop asking for the congress and the B.I.A. to step in on the illegal disenrollment because it will erode sovereignty. These tribes do not follow their own tribal constitution or laws when disenrolling and when question on it they throw up sovereignty like a shield to hide their actions. Our intent is not to attack sovereignty but when these tribal governments use it to hide their action we won’t back down and then they cry stop you are going to hurt our sovereignty who is to blame if sovereignty is eroded. This is a two Way Street on this sovereignty erosion of pointing fingers at. The tribal governments that have disenrolled could waive their sovereignty per case of disenrollment and settle it in front of the dept of interior this does not mean the tribe is giving up their sovereignty it only means they are waiving it for that case. So before you attack us and say you are going to ruining it for everyone in that same breath you should be telling these tribal governments the same thing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-83758003728731317802014-03-06T12:54:35.009-05:002014-03-06T12:54:35.009-05:003:03
I'm sorry to hear if your council support...3:03<br />I'm sorry to hear if your council supports bad policy, but that isn't every council person of every tribe., The point I was raising is even when some council members are just doing their duties according to tribal law, they are still accused of wrong doing by their follow members. Council members need to be level headed and fair, but members also need to remember that as well, and quit gossiping without knowing first hand or proof! Yeah right that will never happen.., I know ndns lol, we love our gossip.. but honestly it can get out of hand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-65667408358414291682014-03-06T12:41:01.756-05:002014-03-06T12:41:01.756-05:0012:16
I hear you, I know what living through that ...12:16<br />I hear you, I know what living through that experiences like that with your own relatives threatening to kill you if you stand in opposition to their political agenda, or calling them out on things that are wrongs against the tribe. In my tribe we were lucky that enough members stood together in bringing about change, but we were just lucky. I know not all tribes have it so easy, and that our own luck might run out if we get people back on the council who want to return to the old ways, which would be like much of how you described happening in your tribe. I'm abit shocked by the no term limits If I am interpreting that correctly, I hope that doesn't mean elected for life? Or just that your tribe had a constitution requirement at one time that said you could only run for office/particular office for a limited amount of terms? In any case, I'm no defender of corruption, I served my tribe not myself or just my family and so I see both sides of the coin. I've been on the brunt of many personal attacks by my own members because I wouldn't authorize assistance to them that they didn't qualify for under the federal requirements we had to abide by, but many did not want to understand that, they were just mad that they were denied for ineligibly for services. My point is not to complain about them but that I worry about them/us all. We have lost sight of the bigger picture. The Govt. wants us to fight each other, and if we say we are to be treated fairly as nations that means we have to walk our talk as well internally. Instead of recognizing our true enemies, we turn on each-other, when does it end? It starts with you/us all, making a choice to end the cycle. That doesn't mean giving up, it means not giving in. Not giving in has a deeper meaning than what it may sound like on it's surface, it means not being consumed by hatred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-49148505243395556862014-03-06T11:52:19.508-05:002014-03-06T11:52:19.508-05:00All of the comments and discussions above are vali...All of the comments and discussions above are valid and point to the fact there is much confusion and fear of this issue. However, the issue is before us all. If we go forward in the Indian way, as Indian Peoples, we can surly agree all who are fully connected to their tribal heritage have the inherent right of tribal citizenship. What is not being mentioned here are those who, through the Termination Act, were removed from their tribal bodies by the BIA during the reconstitution of the tribes back into federal recognition. So, you see, there are even more being denied their rightful places. It is simple to resolve; Indians are Indians and share the same culture and history. It is our sacred duty as Indian Peoples to stand up and see that our tribes flourish once again. WE have been given the responsibility to care for our Mother Earth and we're failing miserably due to all this dysfunction!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-12398886478979257532014-03-06T06:03:54.404-05:002014-03-06T06:03:54.404-05:00The only good thing to look forward to is that,Rob...The only good thing to look forward to is that,Robert Smith will not live forever, and the same goes for his little puppet, Theresa Nieto.I heard from someone down in Pala last month, that the Pala Tribe is making some big loan to some of its members.Up to 150,000 dollars. Thats all good for some, but the interest rate is so fucking high, its unreal, "25%" on some of the loans.So now Nieto and Smith figured out how to screw the remaining Tribal Members.My friend turned down her loan when she was told about the kigh interest rate.These corrupt leaders do not deserve a pat on the back, they deserve a knife in the back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-32030686529601230222014-03-06T03:16:32.837-05:002014-03-06T03:16:32.837-05:00WHoa you just do not get it 9:56PM, in our tribe w...WHoa you just do not get it 9:56PM, in our tribe we were all about "you are doing a great job" for the first 10 years, then the tribal chair got a little conceited and the money was good and everyone was praising all of the good things that were happening, then something changed and they started holding back things and being secretive, there were words of violent attacks on some members,and major drug use on their part, and the people tried to vote them out, but they controlled the voting, they eliminated the term limits, and they changed or amended the Constitution and got a small quorum of friends and family to help pass it without the tribes knowledge then the BIA eventually approved it, and it directly said that they would not disenroll existing members, then they got away from the tribal court system so that we would have no where to turn, believe me if we could change it we would. The lawyers are really the ones to blame because they showed them how to do this and get away with it, they strategically planned it out piece by piece until complete control was in their hands, we gathered our information and proof, sent packets of papers, and tried to talk with them, after all these are our cousins, and they got meaner and meaner, disregarded our proof,and told lies about us to the other members and to the BIA. When the economy was not as good the money was going to have to drop, which was fine with us, but not them they did not want to lose the lifestyle they have gotten use to and the lawyer making over 25 million did not want his share to go down, so what better action to take then to dump some members. Thanks for the advice though, you never know when someone is going to come up with something that we have not thought of. We do not want to hurt anyone, we do not want the tribe to lose anything, we just want what we know is right and that we belong, it is like they are trying to erase our family all together, yet they are members of one side of it, they have caused so much havoc and hatred among the people,it is sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-74841312317774102712014-03-06T00:56:38.011-05:002014-03-06T00:56:38.011-05:007:05. What part of "Self-Determination do you...7:05. What part of "Self-Determination do you not understand?" Freedom aint free, and yes that means that bad things can happen to good people, but I would suggest that things are not as black and white as many would like to make it out to be.... Do you know the difference between IRA and Non-IRA tribes? Do you know that some tribes don't have constitutions approved by the BIA or Feds? Have you read the IRA? A tribe may have a Constitution, or it may rule itself by Custom or Tradition, Navajo Nation as an example, "although I've heard their wanting to adopt a Constitution" All IRA "Indian Reorganization Act" tribes have IRA "Boiler Plate" constitutions that were handed out like candy to tribes that were in many cases not fully informed of the implications of all the terms of those constitutions... and many with very screwed up membership requirements. I know this because my tribe is an IRA tribe, our land was taken into trust around 1900, but or government wasn't organized until the 70s. If you want the BIA to arbitrate your membership disputes, there is a simple fix to that.. amend your Constitution to allow for it, some tribes actually have language like that in their constitutions and the BIA has arbitrated, but it didn't resolved anything, folks were still not satisfied with the result, and the truth is they never will be, because justice is not what is being sought in all cases... but I suspect the majority of the tribes membership would be against that, so you want somebody "Feds" to force the tribe to re-enroll you... in what universe do you think that will happen?. Also, if you have ever served your tribe as a council member, and did it the right way meaning working for your people not just for you or your particular family, your perspective will be totally different form when you were not on your tribes council... many tribal members do not appreciate the world that their elected representatives enter... did you ever think to thank a council member who you seen doing a good job... you think maybe a little positive inspiration might be infections...? instead you know what we hear.... They "The Council" only does for themselves... they don't care about anyone but themselves.. their spending all the tribes money.. they just go on vacations... never a simple word of encouragement... they don't need a pat on the back, because the better ones don't honestly expect it, they went to work for their tribes because they believed in a better future... but would it kill anyone to try a little positive reinforcement every now and then? Instead no... we are nothing but crabs, pulling other down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-89558392096434650802014-03-05T23:56:39.357-05:002014-03-05T23:56:39.357-05:00"When the tribe had nothing people didn't..."When the tribe had nothing people didn't want to be part of the tribe. When it appeared the tribe might have something soon, Then it seemed like a whole bunch of people came out. This is never about money, this is about integrity of tribal citizenship here at Pechanga. If there was a corn field instead of a Casino, these challenges would have taken the same path to the same conclusion."Mark Macarro <br /><br />I wish it to be remembered that I was the last man of my tribe to surrender my rifle.<br />Sitting Bull<br /><br /><br />Indian way??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-79614436251974677082014-03-05T22:25:31.630-05:002014-03-05T22:25:31.630-05:00If Indians can't follow Indian way and abuse f...If Indians can't follow Indian way and abuse families to keep control, other Indians should stand behind the abused and support them. That's the Indian way. Factions in a band that abuse others, disrespect them, do not deserve to be left alone. Indian factions who use the outside government themselves to take abused families identity and push it under the carpet to get Federal recognition and settlement on issues is not the Indian way. Treat Indians like Indians and the same will come back to you. Treat Indians like trash and the same will come back to you. Karma is what it is. If the Government comes in to control abuse, look what caused it. Law Breaking factions, and factions who will do anything to keep the control they set up for themselves. Terrible but true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com