tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post1518104330044788087..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: President Obama to Host Tribal Nations Conference; Tribes with Human Rights Violations To Attend.OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-29430440298787397302010-12-09T00:13:18.536-05:002010-12-09T00:13:18.536-05:00Hey what about the listening session video that ai...Hey what about the listening session video that airro did and the Tosabol 12 page report of abuse to that family and other testimony where the hell is it being held send it all CORRUPTION ,CORRUPTION POLYSQWALISAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-12662526777841551402010-12-07T22:19:41.534-05:002010-12-07T22:19:41.534-05:00Overblown? What if a tribe can violate a decision...Overblown? What if a tribe can violate a decision made by a Federal judge? What if there is no one to enforce a Federal judge's decision? 9 members of the Snoqualmie Tribe near Seattle, Washington were banished in 2008. In 2009 a Federal Judge overturned the permanent banishment and even though tribal officials swore in Federal court that we were all tribal members, after the Judge's decision, they proceeded to disenroll us because there is no remedy for illegal disenrollments....only banishment and yet that cannot be enforced. Overblown.....it's just lawlessness and everyone should be concerned with that. An injustice to anyone is a threat to everyone! Overblown!..I don't think so.<br /><br />Snoqualmie9Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78495484622036301622010-12-07T20:14:52.006-05:002010-12-07T20:14:52.006-05:00This could make President Obama look real bad when...This could make President Obama look real bad when it comes out that he has invited several Tribes with Human Rights Violations, and this becomes more public. He has been informed several times that certain people who he is inviting have committed Human Rights Violations against there own Tribes, and although I understand that he does not want to become involved in this sticky situation, the inviting of these Human Rights Violators could look very very bad. <br /><br />But perhaps (we can always hope) he wish's to confront them with there Human Rights Violations, and ask them to defend there actions.<br /><br />His people really need to get there acts together and withdraw certain invitations, if they want to protect President Obama from having to explain himself.Luisenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716990645661766960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-48543152277351404872010-12-07T20:00:08.593-05:002010-12-07T20:00:08.593-05:00I think the goldberg article is down below but goo...I think the goldberg article is down below but good points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16214014001244056142010-12-07T19:45:53.205-05:002010-12-07T19:45:53.205-05:00Ms. Goldberg says that the issue of disenrollment...Ms. Goldberg says that the issue of disenrollment is overblown maybe because she doesn't think the numbers are very large.<br /><br />Does she realize that her friends at Pechanga allowed us to be disenrolled without any resemblance of due process or fairness whatsoever?<br /><br />The following are some examples of the gross unfairness that we had to endure when we were disenrolled.<br /><br />1. The people who were the deciding votes against us on the enrollment committee, who we asked to be recused from our case due to obvious conflict of interest, were the very people who accused us of not belonging and when their first challenge failed their close relatives and friends were the ones who issued the challenge and submitted statements against us.<br /><br />2. We were denied legal representation at our hearing with the enrollment committee, copies of proceeding transcripts, and at our appeal to the tribal council we were again not allowed legal representation, to ask questions, or to even take notes.<br /><br />3. The enrollment committee ignored key testimony in our favor including notarized legal testimony from tribal elders who verified our family are legitimate tribal members both in the 1915 probate hearings for our family land allotment, which we have a land patent for as Temecula Indians, and before the first written enrollment of 1978.<br /><br />4. The tribe allowed us to be disenrolled in 2006 in spite of a law ending disenrollments passed the previous year in 2005. The council's reasoning was that the enrollment committee could overrule the wishes of the people despite clear tribal legal precedant, that states just the opposite, that the people are the final authority in such matters and not the committee. <br /><br />As a lawyer how could she say our rights were not violated?<br /><br />I know she would cite sovereignty but my question to her would be as follows.<br /><br />If a tribe doesn't even follow their own rules, what in the world can be do about it and who can make a tribe do so.<br /><br />We are American citizens with rights but not only that, Pechanga's own tribal consitution says under Article V:<br /><br />"IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE BAND TO UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION, BYLAWS, AND ORDINANCES OF THE TEMECULA BAND OF LUISENO MISSION INDIANS; AND ALSO, TO UPHOLD THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF EACH MEMBER WITHOUT MALICE OR PREJUDICE." <br /><br />Ms. Goldberg, how was this equal protection clause in the Band's own constitution not violated?<br /><br />And a similar story can be found at other reservations here in California up and down the state and elsewhere.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-9662082521614154952010-12-07T19:45:39.721-05:002010-12-07T19:45:39.721-05:00Ms. Goldberg says that the issue of disenrollment...Ms. Goldberg says that the issue of disenrollment is overblown maybe because she doesn't think the numbers are very large.<br /><br />Does she realize that her friends at Pechanga allowed us to be disenrolled without any resemblance of due process or fairness whatsoever?<br /><br />The following are some examples of the gross unfairness that we had to endure when we were disenrolled.<br /><br />1. The people who were the deciding votes against us on the enrollment committee, who we asked to be recused from our case due to obvious conflict of interest, were the very people who accused us of not belonging and when their first challenge failed their close relatives and friends were the ones who issued the challenge and submitted statements against us.<br /><br />2. We were denied legal representation at our hearing with the enrollment committee, copies of proceeding transcripts, and at our appeal to the tribal council we were again not allowed legal representation, to ask questions, or to even take notes.<br /><br />3. The enrollment committee ignored key testimony in our favor including notarized legal testimony from tribal elders who verified our family are legitimate tribal members both in the 1915 probate hearings for our family land allotment, which we have a land patent for as Temecula Indians, and before the first written enrollment of 1978.<br /><br />4. The tribe allowed us to be disenrolled in 2006 in spite of a law ending disenrollments passed the previous year in 2005. The council's reasoning was that the enrollment committee could overrule the wishes of the people despite clear tribal legal precedant, that states just the opposite, that the people are the final authority in such matters and not the committee. <br /><br />As a lawyer how could she say our rights were not violated?<br /><br />I know she would cite sovereignty but my question to her would be as follows.<br /><br />If a tribe doesn't even follow their own rules, what in the world can be do about it and who can make a tribe do so.<br /><br />We are American citizens with rights but not only that, Pechanga's own tribal consitution says under Article V:<br /><br />"IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE BAND TO UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION, BYLAWS, AND ORDINANCES OF THE TEMECULA BAND OF LUISENO MISSION INDIANS; AND ALSO, TO UPHOLD THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF EACH MEMBER WITHOUT MALICE OR PREJUDICE." <br /><br />Ms. Goldberg, how was this equal protection clause in the Band's own constitution not violated?<br /><br />And a similar story can be found at other reservations here in California up and down the state and elsewhere.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-38154238824951343772010-12-07T17:38:37.233-05:002010-12-07T17:38:37.233-05:00There should be representatives for the thousands ...There should be representatives for the thousands that have had their rights violated by unzcrupulous councils. Redding is a known offenderooJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-88552069624513796792010-12-07T13:00:27.698-05:002010-12-07T13:00:27.698-05:00woodstock,california jam, lets go ,peace luv ,cong...woodstock,california jam, lets go ,peace luv ,congress front lawn!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-20130445802800092462010-12-07T12:52:41.785-05:002010-12-07T12:52:41.785-05:00open to press only? how about the public ? let ren...open to press only? how about the public ? let rent a greyhound bus and go.<br /><br />pick up people along the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com