tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post7953539244460054435..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: More Evidence In Pala Disenrollments TRUMP Robert Smith's Phantom Evidence He Refuses To Show.OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16507114012769705252012-06-11T21:13:51.762-04:002012-06-11T21:13:51.762-04:00It is because of hate and stupidity. That is how t...It is because of hate and stupidity. That is how this EC will be remembered when they pass. They have consistently lied, stolen, threatened, manipulated, cheated, and blamed others for their sins. They are incompetent and useless at anything but crime.<br /><br />Robert Smith will go down as Pala's evil tyrant, the less than a man that thought he was sovereign. He will be known as the racist despot that hated his tribe, and as the theif that shamelessly stole the future of the people.<br /><br />I am sure of this, because I will write that history myself. We must be sure to learn about history lest we repeat these errors and ever again allow one mean-spirited jerk make a shambles of our people.Reinstatement_Restitutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-57764784801596036382012-06-10T15:23:49.980-04:002012-06-10T15:23:49.980-04:00I dont understand how some people just cant get it...I dont understand how some people just cant get it through their hate filled heads what happened in the 1980's. Its so sad that you can explain it over and over and they still kling to and ask the same old stupid and already answered questions. Simply put...a process was started in 1983 by 3 female elders, all decendents of MB who discovered that some spineless weasel took a pen and crossed out MB 4/4 blood degree and wrote 1/2 on the 1913 P.A.R kept by the tribe or the B.I.A. in riverside...(whoever this was could not afford a trip back to washington to do the same to the original 1913 roll kept by the dept. of interior)...so there were many decendents of MB who at birth could not be enrolled until the bia corrected the change made, it was finalized in 1989 after a full investigation by the B.I.A. that took almost 5 years. Of course we cant expect you to understand the process that took place back then because you refuse to , its more selfserving for you to ask the same stupid questions because sadly, its all you have, or your just to dumb to understand what gets explained here by people who have spent countless hours researching offical historical documents to say what they say on this blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-62883076386638157702012-06-10T11:43:42.306-04:002012-06-10T11:43:42.306-04:00No one says Rocinda had anything to do with MB or ...No one says Rocinda had anything to do with MB or her blood degree. What we are saying is that her father, Salvador Nolasquez was listed on the 1928 California Indian Rolls as a Mexican Indian. Because he was Mexican he wasn't entitled to California Land and couldn't participate in the lawsuit for restitution for the US taking land that belonged to Indians. <br /><br />Someone named Barbara Warwish checked off on an amendment to Roscinda Nolasquez's blood degree, changing it from Full-blood to half-blood. So read carefully now. The 1928 California Indian Roll shows Roscinda Nolasquez as 1/2 blood. The 1928 California Indian Roll says Margarita Brittain's father is unknown. <br /><br />We know who MB's father is though. He father is Pelegrino Saubel/Ortega. I don't why you guys can't get it through your thick skulls, but my guess is that it is hereditary. You are the descendents of the same people that falsified MB's records, and have consistently lied about her blood. It is a long standing hatred that serves no purpose. And it really makes you appear to be ridiculous and unreasonable. <br /><br />Well we don't return the hatred. We want justice. We want to be treated fairly using the same laws as you. If we don't get due process and equal protection, then we will continue to stir the pot and show how the EC is denying our civil rights, and discriminating against us. That means we have to dig through the records of all the members of Pala and show how they stand based on the 1928 California Indian Roll just as it has been used against us. This will make our case much stronger as we proceed. <br /><br />There is still time for the EC to revert to the truth of the 1913 Pala Allotment Roll. If I were a member of Pala I would insist on it. There are hundreds of people who will come under scrutiny as we push forward.Reinstatement_Restitutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-70327513214241570442012-06-09T23:53:49.481-04:002012-06-09T23:53:49.481-04:00Could get 100 signatures to disenroll you. It is ...Could get 100 signatures to disenroll you. It is not about signatures, it is about someone illegally scratching out 4/4 and putting 1/2 in pen on a type written federal document. It is Margarita's descendants finally listening to their elders and taking up the fight for their rightful heritage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-66346419301603528582012-06-09T23:44:53.258-04:002012-06-09T23:44:53.258-04:00rocinda was a young girl so she had nothing to do ...rocinda was a young girl so she had nothing to do with mb there were many others like i said before m.b. died at what age 60some years old in what year 1925 so she was way older than rocinda but you wanna blame her if you were so right king why didnt you enroll your kids at birth come on people 1980s when there were no more elders rocinda wasnt the one at the meeting saying they dont got the blood. so all those people back than knew so stop blaming one person when there is over 100 plus signatures stating to not honor the enrollment and the some of those people are dead so quit blaming when there was far more vocal people than rocinda not one of you shared or cared about our kupa language.quit blaming like i said who would say at the meeting to you king you dont got the blood and it wasnt rocinda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61991192408738544342012-06-09T20:24:55.351-04:002012-06-09T20:24:55.351-04:00Any first grader can see that RS and the EC have a...Any first grader can see that RS and the EC have acted so far outside of their lawful authority to unjustifiably disenroll the 162. Any second grader will tell you when daddy hits them, he can be brought to justice, and he cannot hide behind his claim he was just trying to be a good daddy. Any third grader will tell you that the RS and the EC can be sued in court and forced to defend by arguing their disenrollment actions where all within federal and tribal law before the judge will let them get their "get out of jail free" tribal sovereign immunity pass. Tribal officials in New Mexico were sued not long ago in their official and individual capacities in federal court recently all over a casino gambling contract dispute where the plaintiffs are arguing tribal defendants' actions that damaged them were done all outside federal and tribal law. Let's see RS tear the federal civil summons and complaint off Kings door now. Any idiot who thinks RS and the EC were acting within their lawful authority to get rid of the 162 needs to check themselves in to rehab. RS can't be so smug to think all remedies to solve this American Tragedy won't be pursued including a big fat suit against him and the other guilty parties. Back in June '11 the ship left the dock and RS could have wisely called it back in. He can only blame himself for looking like our own American version of a middle eastern despot who jets around with family in tow putting on a smiling face to continue his charade that all is well in never never land. Does he have cowards for lawyers? Step up lawyers for RC and face everyone cause you are also responsible for our American Lynching (professional malpractice?). How much is Elmets paid to try to put a spin on lies to make them look like truths? RS and his lackeys are not good enough to turn their own smelly farts into nice perfume. Only thing they do well is to hand out $$ to and ask "do my farts smell good?" Before the $$ are given to those with out stretched hands, they must say "yes, your hindness." That is the moral filth and garbage that RS has dumped in public by his evil actions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-32800424323724334152012-06-09T19:39:40.792-04:002012-06-09T19:39:40.792-04:00Billy Joel..1990's..but very true in this case...Billy Joel..1990's..but very true in this caseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-62891732487496808812012-06-09T16:04:13.891-04:002012-06-09T16:04:13.891-04:00What song? lol...before my time maybe.What song? lol...before my time maybe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-3470924078686474082012-06-09T14:46:34.478-04:002012-06-09T14:46:34.478-04:00Afraid so, as the song goes We didn't start th...Afraid so, as the song goes We didn't start the fire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-3678291769512202912012-06-09T13:29:51.805-04:002012-06-09T13:29:51.805-04:00To Reinstatement_Restitution:
I appreciate how yo...To Reinstatement_Restitution:<br /><br />I appreciate how you speak the truth and how you support your comments with evidence.<br /><br />I also appreciate how you do not want disenrollments for anyone, simply a fairness between the two situations.<br /><br />The Pala Executive Committee was the first to tip the scales and it seems they have misused documentation. It seems only fair to open up questions into the other lineage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-13113019580239703252012-06-09T11:46:27.309-04:002012-06-09T11:46:27.309-04:00I heard that something like that is in the works. ...I heard that something like that is in the works. Here are the facts as I see them. On Roscinda Nolasquez' 1928 California Indian Roll application she lists herself as full-blood Agua Caliente. Her father, Salvador Nolasquez, is listed as Mexican Indian. Since the puporse of the application is to join a class action lawsuit against the US for misappropriation of California Indian lands, only California Indian were allowed to participate. Therefore an amendment was made to her blood degree changing it from full-blood to half-blood on the application.<br /><br />If the Pala EC follows its own constitution, and the precedent established by disenrolling MB's descendents, then all the descendents of Roscinda Nolasquez should be disenrolled also, including Mel Lovato, since they misrepresented or omitted evidence that would make them ineligible for membership in the tribe. Their blood degree is also affected since Roscinda Nolasquez' blood degree was amended and many may not have sufficient blood quantum.<br /><br />This is the problem with using the 1928 California Indian Roll to establish blood degree. The 1913 Pala Allotment Roll should supercede the 1928 roll. For me it would be even worse to have more disenrollments. We do not want disenrollments. We want to be a people that respects their laws, lives together with civility, and provides for the common welfare.Reinstatement_Restitutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-36713681985179137452012-06-09T11:23:02.301-04:002012-06-09T11:23:02.301-04:00Of those of you who were posting childish posts wo...Of those of you who were posting childish posts would read what you write you would realize how uneducated and classless you sound. If you have proof real proof post it otherwise we don't want to read your posts.Justiceforpaladisenrollednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-30840322708714291182012-06-09T11:17:59.869-04:002012-06-09T11:17:59.869-04:00Anonymous 11:16 does not know a horses mouth from ...Anonymous 11:16 does not know a horses mouth from a horses assAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33144244226103209302012-06-09T08:00:00.404-04:002012-06-09T08:00:00.404-04:00I have heard that there has been a request submitt...I have heard that there has been a request submitted to the pala EC to have the blood degree rocinda nolasquez looked into. That explains the sudden influx of alot of these disrespectful, misinformed, facts backwards, comments. It seems rocinda's decendents have gotten wind of this request and are lashing out . This blog was being used by educated, respectful bloggers who seem to be well versed in factual historical documents, now we must all put up with / or ignore all this disrespect, and misinformed comments of these poor people who have been raised on lies and misinformation. You can see the hate that is harbored inside of them, let that hate rot them from the inside out, better them than youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-19959765433350171002012-06-08T16:14:43.295-04:002012-06-08T16:14:43.295-04:00to anonymous 11:16
sound like you are talking ou...to anonymous 11:16 <br /><br />sound like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth!!!!!! You are a person without a spirit and you have no clue what it means to be an Indian person. A true Indian person does not treat their brothers and sisters like this, not to menton the disrespect which is being put on MB, her parents and all her descendands who have passed.Never before has this happened in Pala (disenrollment). It is sad and it proves our leaders have chosen the wrong path. The ec has abused their power and are not capable of setting aside their personel issues for the good of the people. All the people. A good leader does for the whole tribe not just their family and friends. These are not good leaders and they need to be removed. We all answer for what we do in this life, this side or the other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-24049058672903210922012-06-08T15:02:42.322-04:002012-06-08T15:02:42.322-04:00Your an IDIOT!!!!!Your an IDIOT!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-42785903713642430962012-06-08T02:16:49.702-04:002012-06-08T02:16:49.702-04:00KING HAS SO MANY FACTS ABOUT WRONG DOINGS TOO,
LY...KING HAS SO MANY FACTS ABOUT WRONG DOINGS TOO,<br /><br />LYING<br />GREEDY<br />BACKSTABBING<br />THIEF<br />VINDICTIVE<br />SNEAKY<br />WIFE STEALING<br />FREEZER BUMPING<br />APRON WEARING<br />EMMBEZZLING<br />OLD FART!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />who is only 1/32 cupa, and that comes from the horses mouth!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-89711466574269778522012-06-08T00:23:12.310-04:002012-06-08T00:23:12.310-04:00king this king that, u retard's ! Your feebl...king this king that, u retard's ! Your feeble attempt to put the spotlight on someone else is failing miserbly. Robert smith loves the spotlight, and its on him now, and its bright. After all the evidence , after all the proof, after all the facts , you come on this blog and try to divert attention away from a lying, greedy, vindictive, back stabbing, thief / common criminal is sooo weak, nobody is is paying attention to your bullshit, there are way to many facts about robert smiths wrong doings here to put the spotlight on someone else.....your wasting your time......stop itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-10809768576501680572012-06-07T19:07:28.846-04:002012-06-07T19:07:28.846-04:00Just a little info in Kings defense. All of these ...Just a little info in Kings defense. All of these supposed "stolen" women were willing and consenting adults.As opposed to the countles rape victims of rs and his brother!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-20517406687420447362012-06-07T11:28:15.895-04:002012-06-07T11:28:15.895-04:00Haha FAT NAPOLEON!Haha FAT NAPOLEON!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-84971024413892774912012-06-07T10:47:02.041-04:002012-06-07T10:47:02.041-04:00Then why shop there. Makes no sense. And rips off ...Then why shop there. Makes no sense. And rips off wives. What?really is that the smith reason. Did he marry a woman that smith wanted or something. That is soooo off topic of the real story of. REAL Indians had thier heritage taken away by a little fat Napoleon and there are people enrolled that REALLY shouldn't be. That is the real issue. My guess is YOU are the latter.United we standnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61537750860701377002012-06-07T04:24:12.988-04:002012-06-07T04:24:12.988-04:00King ripps off all his customers! That is the you ...King ripps off all his customers! That is the you tube video they should be putting on this blog! Oh ya and the you tubes of king ripping off wives!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-26994604035690953412012-06-06T08:59:09.027-04:002012-06-06T08:59:09.027-04:00I'm sorry that was wrong it should be the &quo...I'm sorry that was wrong it should be the "Robert Smith Pay Howard, THEN do Whatever I Want, My Sandbox Fund."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-79948903979002588522012-06-06T08:57:17.600-04:002012-06-06T08:57:17.600-04:00The Robert Smith "Do Whatever I Want, My Sand...The Robert Smith "Do Whatever I Want, My Sandbox" fund.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-10003292758585627702012-06-05T22:56:06.649-04:002012-06-05T22:56:06.649-04:00All of that money comes out of the economic develo...All of that money comes out of the economic development fund. That fund is supposed to be for investments in the future of the tribe, but RS thinks it is his money to do with whatever he want to. He doesn't report it, doesn't ask the General Council what they think about what he does with their money. He just figures that its his his money to play with. What a guy. He's your Chairman Pala. Hope you like what you got.Reinstatement_Restitutionnoreply@blogger.com