tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post6558290138333924392..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Does The BIA have to Support FAKE INDIANS to Maintain Its OWN Credibility? Is Supporting FAKES a Feature of the BIA, or a BUG?OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-43197345368907852652015-10-23T19:10:44.080-04:002015-10-23T19:10:44.080-04:00I think that very soon the Creator will strike one...I think that very soon the Creator will strike one of them for the wrongs that they did to these Native People. And then he will hit some of the supporters of the evil ones, and then go back to the original evil doers and strike again, until their is peace in the valley once more, and no members will have to say,(excuse me Mr. Chairman, can I take a shit now? please. Excuse me Madam Treasure, can I have at least 3 feet of toilet paper? Yes mam I have the other EC members sighed off here on this note.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-53407828700970615972015-10-23T18:59:48.095-04:002015-10-23T18:59:48.095-04:00@ 12:07,
Margarita Britten was not adopted by anyo...@ 12:07,<br />Margarita Britten was not adopted by anyone. She was an original CUPA INDIANS from Warner Springs and was forced to walk with one of her Daughters Esperanza, to the now Pala Indian Reservation.<br />There is so much DOCUMENTED PROOF that this is beyond TRUE, it's overwhelming. And still it's not good enough for the Pala EC members to except the TRUTH so they pull their HITLER SHIT on these Documented Native Americans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-38635693097383153342015-10-22T23:16:11.132-04:002015-10-22T23:16:11.132-04:00May the Creator find more good than bad in ALL! W...May the Creator find more good than bad in ALL! We are ALL here forever! It's not easy to tolerate unkind acts, it's not easy to give others more than than my ego believes they deserve, but hopefully they enjoy it ALL. I sleep and enjoy life better knowing I honor ALL members forever! I learn daily it's better to give than take, and enjoy the ride! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-39276678248694545582015-10-22T12:26:45.252-04:002015-10-22T12:26:45.252-04:00They were stripped of their citizenship because th...They were stripped of their citizenship because they didn't play politics and they pissed off the wrong people. Plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-69748007730334964732015-10-21T22:36:50.428-04:002015-10-21T22:36:50.428-04:00Again the reservation would not be there if the Fe...Again the reservation would not be there if the Federal Government did not honor the elders and establish who belonged by depositions recorded and archived. Temecula band of Luiseno Indians! Now its crystal clear why Pechanga does not want to recognize Temecula Indians. It's easier to dishonor ALL members and ALL Ancestors and say we are more Indian than them. Who took over the reservation if your not an allotted family? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61318875450459014272015-10-21T22:31:52.316-04:002015-10-21T22:31:52.316-04:00Paulina Hunter's parents, as proved by the T...Paulina Hunter's parents, as proved by the Temecula Band of Luiseno Indians from the Pechanga Reservation are the ONLY ones that mention Pechanga on their birth records. And Hunter's are one of the FEW families that still have their allotment. Yet the tribal council STRIPPED them of their citizenship. Why?<br /><br /> Notice how the name for the place is the TEMECULA RESERVATION? Pechanga is a PLACE. <br /><br />Indian Allotments Temecula Reservation<br /> Approved by Honorable Secretary Interior on March 29, 1897<br /> Filed June 12, 1897<br /><br /> 1 Berdugo, Juan 2 Berdugo, Martino 3 Berdugo, Domingo 4 Joac, Felipe 5 Helm, Adolfo 6 Aguallo, Prudencio 7 Raines, FrankPaul 8 Pa, Matteo 9 Duro, Andreas 10 Chowee, Adolfo 11 Valdez, Sinobia 12 Yuac, Leon 13 Kengish, Lugarda 14 Kengish, Santiago 15 Gaishman, Alejandro 16 Medrano, Alfredo 17 Jacuie, Thomassa 18 Trujuillo, Antonio Maria 19 Kengish, Dolores 20 Macaro, Juan <br /> 21 Attache, Bital 22 Kengish, Leona 23 Cosme, Salgado 24 Guavish, Christina 25 Rodriguez, Jose Davie 26 Rodriguez, Benito 27 Rodriguez, Alfredo 28 Jacuie, Alocio 29 Oliveras, Juan Maria 30 Majel, Jose 31 Yuac, Maria 32 Alveras, Antonio 33 Guavish, Michella 34 Ayal, Victoria 35 Casas, Luisa 36 Albanes, Martha 37 Medrano, Griselda 38 Attache, Felipe 39 Attache, Jesus 40 Rodriguez, Incarnaciona <br /> 41 Rodriguez, Polocarpio 42 Losobal, Ysidro 43 Garcia, Eduardo 44 Madines, Jose 45 Jacuic, Juan Maria 46 Pajaniun, Benito 47 Trujuillo, Vicente 48 Losobal, Petra 49 Losobal, Gabriel 50 Losobal, Rejugia 51 Valencia, Manuel Dolores 52 Valencia, Maria Jesus 53 Medrano, Maria 54 Valencia, Esther 55 Qulich, Salvador 56 Magee, Frank 57 Tochiga, Andreas 58 Garcia, Luis 59 Serrano, Jose 60 Magee, Custoria Nescat <br /> 61 Losobal, Juan 62 Hunter, Paulina 63 Contreras, Juaquin 64 Loatmany, Stefena 65 Contreras, Dolores 66 Contreras, Marcellina 67 Ramirez, Feliciano 68 Sal, Jose Antonio 69 Sal, Virginia 70 Rodriguez, David 71 Albanes, Esperanza 72 Nescat, Appolonia 73 Pajanin, Rafael 74 Pajanin, Ramon 75 Japarrakes ,Martina 76 Munio, Ysabel 77 Garboni, Josefa 78 Guavish, Francisco 79 Moguaguish, Victoria 80 Garcia, Vibrana <br /> 81 Castro, Escholastica 82 Pa, Gregoria 83 Kenguish, Feliciana 84 Medacuf, Ysidora 85 Jacuic, Jose Domingo 86 School House 87 Cemetery<br /><br /> The foregoing schedule (4 Sheets) of allotments of lands in severalty made to the Indians residing on the Temecula Reservation in the State of California. Under the Act of Congress approved January 12, 1891 (26 stats. 712) by Special Agent John F. Carrere, under instructions from this office approved by the Department February 5, 1893 is respectfully submitted to the Secretary of the Interior with recommendation that he approve the allotments therein described and cause patents to be issued there for in the names of the allottees as provided in the 5th section of the Act aforesaid.<br /><br />D. M. Browning Commissioner E.E.W Department of the Interior March 29, 1897<br /><br /> The allotments to the Indians residing on the Temecula Indian Reservation in the State of California as described in the above recommendation of the commissioner of Indian Affairs are herby approved and the commissioner of the General Land Office is directed to issue in forum and of the legal effect prescribed by the 5th Section of the Act of January 12, 1891 (26 Stats. 712). C. N Bliss Secretary Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-26205641987822668832015-10-21T19:35:50.818-04:002015-10-21T19:35:50.818-04:00@12:07, Margarita was not adopted, she was one of ...@12:07, Margarita was not adopted, she was one of the Cupeno that was forced to walk form Warners to Pala with one of her daughters and grand-daughters. You must not read any of the information that is posted on here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-9867843421914712162015-10-21T14:36:50.374-04:002015-10-21T14:36:50.374-04:00Maybe Grandfathers purpose is more than we can ima...Maybe Grandfathers purpose is more than we can imagine. Maybe all the natives who sold their souls to their casinos will be damned to hell forever. The way the natives do Casino business is conniving and undermining. Most Native leaders/Dictators believe they are the smartest people ever. They are not. The communities look at them as ignorant people who were fortunate to let the government give them sovereignty. These leaders have given the term "stupid Indian" its validity. Regardless of the Hunters social status they are Gods people. They should be treated as such.....These Casinos will ultimately be the demise of all natives. Money doesn't empower anyone, its distracts from them from our culture and the true Indian way of life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-35752329601128023802015-10-21T13:58:37.228-04:002015-10-21T13:58:37.228-04:00Exactly the truth, she is not honored and neither ...Exactly the truth, she is not honored and neither are several Ancestors of Pechanga. That is a sad fact, and her decedents where recognized and enrolled just like she was until dishonoring the truth and ALL ancestors became Pechanga way. Because of the lies misinformation broadcast you can live with those choices as the Hunter family is living with them also. Take your choices with you and I hope nothing ever duplicates itself. Pechanga was created for a reason, and the Band as a whole can live with the current flow, and dishonor the truth. Take that story to your ceremony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-25300228101767016152015-10-21T13:06:55.037-04:002015-10-21T13:06:55.037-04:00But she is not honored. You don't get honored ...But she is not honored. You don't get honored just because you were born. It also doesn't matter what kind of Indian she was her descendants are not enrolled, therefore who cares? Is there any recourse or way to be enrolled back into Pechanga? I don't think so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-85610681854609292142015-10-20T23:51:41.538-04:002015-10-20T23:51:41.538-04:00Honor ALL Ancestors and get your facts straight be...Honor ALL Ancestors and get your facts straight before you broadcast and dishonor elders. Paulina Hunter was recognized and recorded as Pechanga and Luiseno by several elders who were allowed to give depositions during her heirs allotment allocations. Some of the elders only spoke Luiseno and the records are red ribbon certified under Federal recognition. Several clans share the same CDIB as Paulina Hunter descendants San Luis Rey or Luiseno Indians. Paulina Hunter is Pechanga and showed be honored, just like ALL allotted Indians from Pechanga. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-11201955044904591752015-10-20T18:29:16.636-04:002015-10-20T18:29:16.636-04:00San Luis Rey and Pechanga are synonymous. Paulina...San Luis Rey and Pechanga are synonymous. Paulina Hunters parents are the only one associated with Pechanga. Leivas liars arent even Indian. Well except Andy Masiels, who claims A father from Agua Caliente...his own mother was adoptedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40536993396347550162015-10-20T16:53:22.542-04:002015-10-20T16:53:22.542-04:00I heard she was a San Luis Rey indian and the Pech...I heard she was a San Luis Rey indian and the Pechanga band adopted her into the tribe. Is this not true? If not true then why were the Hunter descendants disenrolled? They were disenrolled because Pauline was trying to be Pechanga and she wasnt. It's the same as the Trasks trying to be San Pasqual and they are Mesa Grande. Pauline Hunter got away with it for years, she even received an alottment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-63318255235206984722015-10-20T16:31:49.660-04:002015-10-20T16:31:49.660-04:00Where are you getting your information from!!???
...Where are you getting your information from!!???<br /><br />Pauline Hunter was NOT adopted, we know who her father was AND her mother. No has ever claimed that she was adopted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-56192375580010462872015-10-20T15:07:05.025-04:002015-10-20T15:07:05.025-04:00Yeah. Pauline hunter was adopted and so was Margar...Yeah. Pauline hunter was adopted and so was Margarita Britten and Regilindo Calac but there still indians. So it doesn't matter. Does it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33884985021871408502015-10-17T15:04:03.176-04:002015-10-17T15:04:03.176-04:00Don't forget Ruth Masial She was orphaned and ...Don't forget Ruth Masial She was orphaned and is not an original allottee and cant or wont show her birth certificate. She is jennies and Andrews mother. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-64856225871804330312015-10-16T19:52:41.267-04:002015-10-16T19:52:41.267-04:00Pechanga has Butch Murphy voting out real Pechanga...Pechanga has Butch Murphy voting out real Pechanga people and keeping REAL Pechanga people OUT of the tribe. <br /><br />Tosobol's should be in. Garbani's out, Murphy's out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-89837638949818013832015-10-16T01:39:56.207-04:002015-10-16T01:39:56.207-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22613724423929181242015-10-15T22:51:30.290-04:002015-10-15T22:51:30.290-04:00Pala EC has 17 days.....Fix your mistake, end this...Pala EC has 17 days.....Fix your mistake, end this now while "you" still have the power too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-10240504147969134592015-10-15T22:40:06.647-04:002015-10-15T22:40:06.647-04:00I think 2:10 is responding to whoever keeps postin...I think 2:10 is responding to whoever keeps posting the long comments, copy and paste of a book or something, kind of like a history lesson, but they are taking up the pages. At least that is what it seems to be. It is from one of the comments on the previous post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50979031929767417572015-10-15T20:35:06.718-04:002015-10-15T20:35:06.718-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.URBAN NATIVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14917293837571748850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-8506410640922061692015-10-15T20:33:54.661-04:002015-10-15T20:33:54.661-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.URBAN NATIVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14917293837571748850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-20179820701729267222015-10-15T20:28:50.460-04:002015-10-15T20:28:50.460-04:00It seems that the BIA may be hoisted on its own pe...It seems that the BIA may be hoisted on its own petard soon.<br /><br />Can the people who have perpetrated these fake Indians be prosecuted? Those in the Riverside BIA office?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-44344923281985808482015-10-15T18:30:59.021-04:002015-10-15T18:30:59.021-04:00What are you talking about 210?What are you talking about 210?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-79101044118065544462015-10-15T17:20:43.339-04:002015-10-15T17:20:43.339-04:00What's this, Chairman Greg Sarris not of nativ...What's this, Chairman Greg Sarris not of native blood? H. Caufieldnoreply@blogger.com