tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post6378830049593920937..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Pala Chairman Robert Smith Not Providing Equal Protection for His Tribal Citizens?OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-73311047984735803272012-06-20T16:23:37.408-04:002012-06-20T16:23:37.408-04:00Pala members did not vote on a constitution!
The c...Pala members did not vote on a constitution!<br />The constitution was supposed to be ratified at a general election where all members could vote on it.<br />smith had it voted on at a monthly meeting.<br />The constitution was never legitimately ratified!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-66953648961588353772012-06-20T16:22:57.075-04:002012-06-20T16:22:57.075-04:00No the tribe did not vote on the change in the con...No the tribe did not vote on the change in the constitution only 27 members (of Robert Smith's choosing) voted on it and Sarah, the lawyer, wrote it up and they passed it to the Sacramento regional director of the BIA, Amy (Sarah's Aunt) and the BIA pushed it through with approval.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-74923803301632405222012-06-20T16:03:54.780-04:002012-06-20T16:03:54.780-04:00The biggest mistake was that the Pala members, inc...The biggest mistake was that the Pala members, including the disenrollees, voted on a constitution that gave so much power to 5 people. Need to pay attention guys!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-25646264966674337502012-06-20T13:30:45.928-04:002012-06-20T13:30:45.928-04:0011:10, 3:50 Afraid there is alot of truth in what ...11:10, 3:50 Afraid there is alot of truth in what you are saying. There was a time when another family was top dog. Now that family is dying out. There was talk of unfairness, but the tribal laws kept things fair to all . What happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-54973887208331796092012-06-20T13:29:02.019-04:002012-06-20T13:29:02.019-04:00Regardless of how we feel about these people, stic...Regardless of how we feel about these people, stick to the issue that the Brittian disenrollments were illegal, rather than asking the Tribe to disenroll others, or asking why they haven't. We need to come together to fight illegal disenrollments and should at the same time reassure current members that our agenda is not to disenroll them, in retaliation, but only to seek justice for those disenrolled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-41525917807279681942012-06-20T12:57:49.520-04:002012-06-20T12:57:49.520-04:00"WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUE FACTS?
JUS..."WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUE FACTS?<br /><br />JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHO WILL BE THE LAST SURVIVING ENROLLED MEMBERS.FIGURE IT OUT LOOK AT WHAT FAMILY GOT WITH WHO? MAYBE IT IS DESTINY THAT THEY BREED THE WAY THEY HAVE BRED . MAYBE VB TOLD THEM HOW TO SAVE THEMSELVES."<br />So pretty much you are telling people the intention is for RS and his family to be the only remaining Pala enrolled members. Thanks for the info, the truth is right here in the pudding. It does not matter about anything else, just that you are the last and only members, so anyone not immediately related is going to be ousted. It will be the end of a tribe. How sad for you to see things this way. May God have mercy on your soul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-51442162477290226072012-06-19T18:50:47.135-04:002012-06-19T18:50:47.135-04:00"I am appaulled by both sides. i am not enrol..."I am appaulled by both sides. i am not enrolled but a decendant from this tribe who used to be so proud to be appart of. i have now realized that you are only defined by your enrollment number."<br /><br />With or without a roll number stay proud of your heritage.<br /><br />The history of this tribe is amazing, and it is unfortunate that the disenrollments are going to be like a scar on its face.<br /><br />This has brought a lot of attention to the tribe in a negative light. Not just from the media or on this blog, but I have heard that the way this was handled was suspicious and raised "red flags" with the US government. <br /><br />The Tribal lawyer (Dickstein) has been involved with several legal issues or problems with other tribes where according to their testimony he misled them and cost the tribes money. These are online in several places if you take the time to read the cases.<br /><br />If I were a member of the tribal council I would be very concerned about what an investigation may turn up. <br /><br />If I were one of the disenrolled, I'd fight for my history and to hold the BIA and Tribe to following the Tribal Constitution.<br /><br />Any decent human understands the reason laws are made (or in this case a Tribal Constitution) is to protect all members from an overpowering government and to insure the integrity of the tribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-55566896033980153452012-06-19T16:16:30.144-04:002012-06-19T16:16:30.144-04:00"All your papers have no leg to stand on. Its..."All your papers have no leg to stand on. Its all bullshit. point is even before the disenrollments everybody treated eachother like shit. no regards to anyone else but yourselves."<br /><br />The papers are necessary because they have been made necessary. We know who we are; they know who we are. They want to use the papers to change that. We are showing the papers can be used against them too.<br /><br />People have not always acted kindly towards each other at Pala. How is that different than anywhere else in the world? Some people you like, some people you don't. That is why communtities have to have laws. The laws keep people from abusing each other. Unfortunately RS and the Executive Committee have broken the law, and then they are blaming us for their action. <br /><br />The worst thing is that the Tribe does not benefit from there being fewer Indians. All it means is that the Tribe will die out sooner. Maybe that is what you should be disgusted about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-34939267768337896192012-06-19T14:10:11.711-04:002012-06-19T14:10:11.711-04:00I am appaulled by both sides. i am not enrolled bu...I am appaulled by both sides. i am not enrolled but a decendant from this tribe who used to be so proud to be appart of. i have now realized that you are only defined by your enrollment number. ppl of mb have also made me feel like i dont belong just because i wasnt enrolled. I have never cared about getting a check and never will. so to hear both sides going off like this is discusting. All these bloggers trying to prove what? All your papers have no leg to stand on. Its all bullshit. point is even before the disenrollments everybody treated eachother like shit. no regards to anyone else but yourselves. There needs to be a change but some of you disenrollies should look at how you treated people before some of you do the samething that the other family is doing to you now. it sadens me. most of the people on the rez just expect demand and one thing all of you do that is all the same is point the blame. nothing will ever change. U should all learn to be humble and kind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-75820698040016316502012-06-19T12:54:40.391-04:002012-06-19T12:54:40.391-04:00Call Leroy and rob yourself and tell them how you ...Call Leroy and rob yourself and tell them how you feel<br />Leroy: 7608075884<br />Rob:7608075795Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33180368072192225592012-06-19T12:52:40.628-04:002012-06-19T12:52:40.628-04:00I don't understand. What would it take to prov...I don't understand. What would it take to prove that Chairman Smith is wrong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-89062573022530033262012-06-19T12:46:07.247-04:002012-06-19T12:46:07.247-04:00Leroy bang yourselfLeroy bang yourselfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-57548957724423693492012-06-19T12:18:07.723-04:002012-06-19T12:18:07.723-04:00I think Vivian would cry if she saw what has beco...I think Vivian would cry if she saw what has become of Her relations!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-43285201133051649842012-06-19T01:07:31.546-04:002012-06-19T01:07:31.546-04:00WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUE FACTS?
JUST TAK...WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUE FACTS? <br /><br />JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHO WILL BE THE LAST SURVIVING ENROLLED MEMBERS.FIGURE IT OUT LOOK AT WHAT FAMILY GOT WITH WHO? MAYBE IT IS DESTINY THAT THEY BREED THE WAY THEY HAVE BRED . MAYBE VB TOLD THEM HOW TO SAVE THEMSELVES.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-19773361813379273832012-06-18T23:37:20.312-04:002012-06-18T23:37:20.312-04:00How childish and ignorant some assumptions are her...How childish and ignorant some assumptions are here, must be RS and his cronies using fiction to taint the truth, once again. Always taking the low road acting like they are the true Indians and no one else can compared to their superior indianess. Well, as far as VB is concerned, I think Alices children chose to align themselves with their first cousin, Robert Smith a long, long time ago. It has nothing to do with blood, it has everything to do with greed. Smith has been spreading his hate message for years and he and his cronies have an undeserved sense of entitlement. Right, sure is right, and wrong has never been more wrong. Well, that's what you get when you elect a corrupt, drug addled, drunk idiot, moron for a leader. Slander on, cronies, but try to use a little fact next time to add some credibilty, unless you, like smith are too ignorant to use sound, logical methods to arrive at correct conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-2525959626583519832012-06-18T22:44:43.814-04:002012-06-18T22:44:43.814-04:00SAUBEL/ OWLINGUISH FAMILY
KAVAL KLAN
NO MATTER WH...SAUBEL/ OWLINGUISH FAMILY<br />KAVAL KLAN <br />NO MATTER WHAT<br />WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-3993267954290756582012-06-18T21:57:16.682-04:002012-06-18T21:57:16.682-04:00I think VB would say do what it takes to take care...I think VB would say do what it takes to take care of your children. VB would have made sure her family benefitted. Rite MB descendants ? I don't think Trina kids have NOTHING to worry about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-83120400734769394052012-06-18T20:03:05.051-04:002012-06-18T20:03:05.051-04:00AUNT VB TAUGHT HER WELL!AUNT VB TAUGHT HER WELL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-31213889720120329722012-06-18T19:43:30.745-04:002012-06-18T19:43:30.745-04:00Guilty by association!
No ones putting a gun to h...Guilty by association! <br />No ones putting a gun to her head!<br />Shame on her for turning the right that Vivian fought soo hard for,in to a wrong!<br />What would she say to you Trina?<br />Do you think she's proud of what your a part of?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33168113640218948502012-06-18T19:20:49.174-04:002012-06-18T19:20:49.174-04:00You are a know nothing.You are a know nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22794975997332794962012-06-18T18:56:36.043-04:002012-06-18T18:56:36.043-04:00You know MB is 4/4,let's see credible evidence...You know MB is 4/4,let's see credible evidence for disenrollment you chickenshits.I can't speak for anyone but myself but I personally never liked to hang around people like r smith or the Yaqui lavatos cause their a full of shit! Screw them and there false history. We know who MB was,we know who we are.<br />We have all the legal documents to back THE TRUTH. MAGARITA IS 4/4 Cupa!<br />YAQUI iS NOT NATIVE TO THE UNITED STATES!<br />From research I KNOW TRINA IS A THEIF LIKE ROB!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-47226076474404605412012-06-18T18:38:37.261-04:002012-06-18T18:38:37.261-04:00I am still not getting it. Aunt Vi didn't kno...I am still not getting it. Aunt Vi didn't know what she was talking about at the meeting. She suddenly wanted King to enroll her relations. She hadn't been discussing it for years and years about the ink marking on a federal document that said M B was 4/4. She did support the efforts of her family to corrcecthe selfish hateful wrong that was done to her grandmother? Yes she did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-68444309180988517482012-06-18T18:29:43.199-04:002012-06-18T18:29:43.199-04:00no shame typical white people with all your slande...no shame typical white people with all your slander B.I.A. Was in charge what year were u allowed to be enrolled how many years was king chairman why werent u enrolled then so B.I.A. NEVER ALLOWED YOUR ENROLLMENT WHATS THE CONNECTION KING FREEMAN AND MARGRET HILTON HE WAS CHAIRMAN AND I WILL LEAVE ALL THAT FOR U TO FILL IN AND ALL OF U FAT MOUTHING PEOPLE R NOTHING BUT SHOW IT DISGUSTING HOW U ALL BIRDSING AND CARRY YOURSELF WITH NO RESPECT I FORGOT YOU ALL DIDNT BECOME INDIAN TILL WHEN THATS WHY YOUR ALL SHOW NO HEARTS WITH YOUR SICK SELFS YOUR ONLY SHORT TERM NOT LONG TERM U DONT GOT IT U ALL WALK IN CIRCLES DONT KNOW WHO U R OR WHAT U R CANT STAND ALONE LOOK AT YOURSELFS I WATCH U ALL HAVE NO RESPECT OF OUR HISTORY BUT WE KNOW,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-68183443519881982742012-06-18T18:03:14.426-04:002012-06-18T18:03:14.426-04:00Trina is a theif just like rob,that's how she ...Trina is a theif just like rob,that's how she lives with it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-27314081621306859932012-06-18T16:51:37.284-04:002012-06-18T16:51:37.284-04:00So she thinks her aunt is lying?So she thinks her aunt is lying?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com