tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post5710942489518960815..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Grande Ronde Tribes Want to TWIST THE DISENROLLMENT KNIFE in the NECKS of Disenrolled: FOR SPEAKING OUT.OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-5073159965022248452015-09-10T14:03:22.641-04:002015-09-10T14:03:22.641-04:00It should be noted that Ms. Jameson and her family...It should be noted that Ms. Jameson and her family are outspoken and firm believers in disenrollment. <br />Native ways are of no importance to her family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-75209299944618248832015-09-10T10:21:52.628-04:002015-09-10T10:21:52.628-04:00My take...it doesn't matter. Any tribe that e...My take...it doesn't matter. Any tribe that engages in an enrollment audit is merely trying to justify an excuse to disenroll whomever they have already decided is to go. The wording of the constitution, enrollment ordinance, and resolutions is interpreted, reinterpreted, and sometimes even changed to make it fit the means to an end. Shame on ALL tribes involved in decimating their own People through tribal disenrollment, and even more so who attempt to silence those disenrolled to prevent shedding light on this dispicable and non-Indian practice. There is a higher court than any you provide--that of Creator and your ancestors!<br /><br />A ho'for ALL nations...for ALL chukchansi peoplenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-79911989168603542452015-09-10T01:31:21.047-04:002015-09-10T01:31:21.047-04:00Rosemary, you have given incorrect information. Ea...Rosemary, you have given incorrect information. Each member of the disenrolled family possessed a minimum of 1/16 blood quantum as required by the Grand Ronde Constitution. Some had 1/2 Cascade blood. The cascades Indians were one of the 27 bands and tribes that make up the confederation that is Grand Ronde. The enrollment department at Grand Ronde did not dispute the blood quantum of any of those 86 disenrolled tribal members. Please do not spread false information. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-43102641880369611772015-09-10T00:27:11.194-04:002015-09-10T00:27:11.194-04:00Take a spelling class or slow down a little. Learn...Take a spelling class or slow down a little. Learn to proofread before you post. You have no idea who did and did not stand up for the tribal members in question. Again you are generalizing more than 5000 people based on the actions of very few. May god bless you or provide you an education, either would be a big help. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-5797672326814368152015-09-10T00:07:25.880-04:002015-09-10T00:07:25.880-04:00To call a tribe who dud not stand up for its own m...To call a tribe who dud not stand up for its own members assholes, is not racist. It is not bigotry. Dusenrooling your own people, is more like genocide.<br /><br />Assholes seem to fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78108807148983278972015-09-09T23:44:33.295-04:002015-09-09T23:44:33.295-04:00This is about as sad as any journalism I have ever...This is about as sad as any journalism I have ever read. For anyone to call an entire tribe assholes is generalization at its worst. This is the exact mentality that created racism, bigotry, genocides etc. I am a member of the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde, and I will always be proud of that fact. God bless you all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16120802054344289812015-09-09T20:21:09.492-04:002015-09-09T20:21:09.492-04:00The determination by the tribe is based on what th...The determination by the tribe is based on what they define as a tribal document. There is a qualifying name on one tribal document, a census form. But they have decided that that name is spelled so as to be not close enough to the original name. Then the tribe is holding that one of the treaties does not qualify as a tribal document, because it was signed before the tribe and reservation was formed. So the tribe has chosen to hold that the treaty is not a tribal document for enrollment purposes. The whole issue is really a case study in tribal politics in the casino era as many people are motivated to make money from disenrolling others. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-65444953096348891522015-09-09T17:56:44.208-04:002015-09-09T17:56:44.208-04:00I am a bit confused by the post above by Rosemary ...I am a bit confused by the post above by Rosemary Good. I was under the impression that as a confederation there would be no such thing as Grand Ronde Blood. Am I mistaken? Also, if the tribe in question has done nothing wrong as she claims, why then would they attempt to block this information from the public. why not release it all and let the public see that the tribe was in the right. . Also, I would have thought a treaty would be the first Roll. I guess we reservation Natives do things differently than you all Urban Casino Indians. We would never dream of removing treaties from our tribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40332565032937667512015-09-09T17:17:34.620-04:002015-09-09T17:17:34.620-04:00I have been following this case carefully for sinc...I have been following this case carefully for since the beginning. I know that this family has shown, many times, in every way possible, that they have fully met ALL of the enrollment requirements. Blood quantum is not, and never has been in question. Never dual enrolled. Ancestor on the restoration rolls. The audit was shady, if not illegal. Not everyone was audited. The results are secret. This has been a witch trial from the beginning and shameful from's the tribe's behavior, changing rules, fabricating "evidence", and putting these people through the wringer. Ms. Jameson lives nowhere near Oregon and has not attended any tribal court or council disenrollment proceedings nor has any first-hand information other than what is published by the court. Her comments are written to deceive the uninformed. I feel the article is definitely not written "unfairly". No apology needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-40683873583887691222015-09-09T16:09:30.285-04:002015-09-09T16:09:30.285-04:00Rosemary must be hitting the absinthe early.
Is s...Rosemary must be hitting the absinthe early.<br /><br />Is she talking about the same family that was kicked off their allotment at Yakima for being 100% Cascade?<br /><br />OPechangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50989402871758849902015-09-09T10:26:54.551-04:002015-09-09T10:26:54.551-04:00I am a proud member of the Confederated Tribes of ...I am a proud member of the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde. There was a legal audit of our membership by a qualified outside firm and most members made it through the audit in good shape. One family was found to not have any members on the Grand Ronde Rolls and there fore no Grand Ronde Blood quantum and they were disenrolled. Most tribes have enrollment requirements for membership. For the longest time our requirement was you could be any Indian (inclusive) but you had to be on or have ancestors on the Grand Ronde Rolls (exclusive). As time went one there were more requirements added like you can not be dual enrolled into two tribes at once, you need to have at least 1/16 Grand Ronde blood quantum, and you need to have an ancestor on the Grand Ronde Restoration Roll. There is no greed or disgrace here and we certainly are not assholes. The court asked for the briefs not to be released to the public and they were and that was the gag order. You are trying make villians out of my tribe when each person has their day before the enrollment committee, the tribal court and the court of appeals if anything is found wanting about their membership. Such an unfairly written article and you need to apologize. Rosemary Jameson<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642793239696989391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-7990059843651073012015-09-09T01:00:14.503-04:002015-09-09T01:00:14.503-04:00Agreed! The more spotlight put on the evils these...Agreed! The more spotlight put on the evils these tribal "leaders" are engaging in through tribal disenrollment, the better! Indian People suffering these horrific abuses of their tribal, civil, and human rights have remained silent far too long. Light will bring change, and the abusers are well aware of this. We CANNOT, we WILL NOT, be silenced! for ALL nations...for ALL chukchansi peoplenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-13288531043926777612015-09-08T19:41:49.296-04:002015-09-08T19:41:49.296-04:00How dare they! It is a disgrace they are disenrol...How dare they! It is a disgrace they are disenrolling these people. There should be even more media attention about it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com