tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post5606283543712067700..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: OPEN ENROLLMENT AT PECHANGA: But Why is there STILL a MORATORIUMOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78794240773877497782011-02-02T19:27:01.816-05:002011-02-02T19:27:01.816-05:00nope and with no help!!!next year again i will try...nope and with no help!!!next year again i will try...zandstarrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-85557666778400152532011-02-02T19:04:42.336-05:002011-02-02T19:04:42.336-05:00Did anyone get an application in?Did anyone get an application in?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50150742864675443982011-01-20T16:08:56.763-05:002011-01-20T16:08:56.763-05:00How can we put an application on this site? Does ...How can we put an application on this site? Does OP have one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-44858326203628684472011-01-20T13:19:53.502-05:002011-01-20T13:19:53.502-05:00That would be more then helpful! It also would giv...That would be more then helpful! It also would give the enrollment committee something to do since they are only taking applications from children of enrolled members. And it looks like the year 2014 has become 2017 as to when the moratorium will end...INTERESTING!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-68986404663024360582011-01-19T15:19:53.756-05:002011-01-19T15:19:53.756-05:00I was thinking the same thing. Maybe OP can post ...I was thinking the same thing. Maybe OP can post the application on this site for everyone who has a legit tie to the tribe to send in.<br /><br />Great ideaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-87987969029161598222011-01-19T14:16:36.052-05:002011-01-19T14:16:36.052-05:00Can someone post the enrollment application. So we...Can someone post the enrollment application. So we can copy and print it. We should all go at the same time to hand them in. We have 7 days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22220227745214879212011-01-18T16:04:10.255-05:002011-01-18T16:04:10.255-05:00Make sure when you walk in to say you just are the...Make sure when you walk in to say you just are there picking up an enrollment application. Try to be vague about who you are enrolling.<br /><br />I got lucky and there was a young girl at the desk who just handed it over where as the older woman might not be so giving.<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-51428714006718558952011-01-18T15:47:07.234-05:002011-01-18T15:47:07.234-05:00I will send someone down there or make a trip then...I will send someone down there or make a trip then. I live out of state but have family that can pick one up...thanks!!<br /> zandstarrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-90186518749818100542011-01-18T15:31:07.725-05:002011-01-18T15:31:07.725-05:00I went down to the tribe and picked one up.
Is th...I went down to the tribe and picked one up.<br /><br />Is that feasible for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-57901330249048373582011-01-18T15:25:53.513-05:002011-01-18T15:25:53.513-05:00So I called the enrollment committee again today a...So I called the enrollment committee again today and asked to have an enrollment application mailed to me and they said they are only giving out applications to children of enrolled members and that I was not able to have one. They also said the moratorium was not to be lifted until 2017 and to check back periodically just incase it gets lifted earlier. So how am I supposed to get an application? Any suggestions...?<br /> <br />zandstarrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-87000883213698686052011-01-17T15:47:48.218-05:002011-01-17T15:47:48.218-05:00How can a sister kick out a brother?
It is so odd...How can a sister kick out a brother?<br /><br />It is so odd that Manuela Miranda is removed but not his sister and her family....<br /><br />I am ignorant to how the membership works in our tribe. It is crazy how some families are enrolled, how brother and sister can be torn apart, and how non pechanga people own allotments on the rez (or just live there). <br /><br />It gets a little confusing. Its kinda like the US laws, so many laws outlaw the other that noone really knows the truth anymore.<br /><br />THe tribe should start and end with those that owned or were given allotments as that seems the only fair way to decide heritage.<br /><br />The Church records are burnt, people are stabbing their own family in the back and everyone is afraid to tell the truth.<br /><br />It is shameful to lose what was given to you for in reality NOTHING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-42262960846240235102011-01-17T02:06:04.355-05:002011-01-17T02:06:04.355-05:00Anonymous said...
"From my family there are....Anonymous said...<br /><br />"From my family there are.,,<br />6 children<br />16 grandchildren<br />10 great grandchildren<br />Decendants of Candelaria Flores and her daughter Refugia. My great grandmother was Nellie, Refugia's Daughter and my grandfather was Severo, Nellie's son.<br />These are the numbers from Severo's children. Hope this helps part of your question. We are all not enrolled members.<br /><br />zandstarr"<br /><br />Sadly C.N. Flores descendant Francis Miranda was central in keeping her own blood out of the tribe and kicking her own blood, the descendants of Manuela Miranda who was the sister of C.N. Flores, out of the tribe.<br /><br />So I don't think you can expect any help from her.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-30334500289844174302011-01-17T01:54:59.777-05:002011-01-17T01:54:59.777-05:00The truth is..those greedy fuckers plotted from th...The truth is..those greedy fuckers plotted from the beginning to commit theft via illegal moratorium.<br /><br />Pechanga fell as a result of a hostile corporate raid. Moratorium by another name is used to squeeze out stakeholders. Moratorium is nothing more than an illegal scheme to loot and steal franchisements from legitimate descendants.<br /><br />Descendants of Pechanga are stakeholders. Imposters raided Pechanga. Sad to say...every clan betrayed their own people for $.<br /><br />Now each clan continues to plot against other clans for dominance.<br /><br />Each clan has it predators and prey.<br /><br />Indians have always been targets of greedy eyes. Sadly, it has been Indians themselves who have been Indians' greatest threats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-45716857259340135862011-01-16T20:11:30.806-05:002011-01-16T20:11:30.806-05:00Thank you, I want to know how many people the trib...Thank you, I want to know how many people the tribe is not trying to enroll......Our family is small to comparison as most of our relatives had no children or only One....<br /><br />I wish the tribe would come out and say the truth about why noone is being enrolled. It possibly can't be too many applications and they need a break. Maybe they should hire me with the rest of my relatives that are enrolled and zi will whip them into shape, as my kids can attest. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-33818666322325654402011-01-16T00:34:59.002-05:002011-01-16T00:34:59.002-05:00From my family there are.,,
6 children
16 grandchi...From my family there are.,,<br />6 children<br />16 grandchildren<br />10 great grandchildren<br />Decendants of Candelaria Flores and her daughter Refugia. My great grandmother was Nellie, Refugia's Daughter and my grandfather was Severo, Nellie's son.<br /> These are the numbers from Severo's children. Hope this helps part of your question. We are all not enrolled members.<br /> <br />zandstarrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-34455385722529157052011-01-14T14:30:28.612-05:002011-01-14T14:30:28.612-05:00CPL (P) Daniel v Mendoza NREMT_P
EMT-T
68W- Health...CPL (P) Daniel v Mendoza NREMT_P<br />EMT-T<br />68W- Health care specialist<br />US Army <br /><br />look at that the tosobol family still have young men fighting for their country for freedom just like our elders did manuel Rios US NAVY Mike Rios US Army. <br />its nice to know that american indians can still fight for what is right .what is a shame is the way the tribe has chosen to treat the tosobol family we have show you our paper work why do you continue to keep us out please do the right thing let us in <br /><br /> M RIOSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-77599488451501155542011-01-13T01:03:56.229-05:002011-01-13T01:03:56.229-05:00the guavish clans begin with Tequate Guavish. He h...the guavish clans begin with Tequate Guavish. He had 3 children that I know of.My great grandmother being one. She had one daughter who had 1 girl and 3 boys. I am from the daughters line who also happened to be who the allotment was left too.<br /><br />She sold the allotment when her mom died and moved to El Centro but continued to come to the Rez for some time.<br /><br />The family I listed is all that is left from the ONE daughter. The 3 boys are of course dead but they have children and I don't know where they stand...Moratorium or on the mailing list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-18411716403255020342011-01-12T11:27:55.448-05:002011-01-12T11:27:55.448-05:00So, I was wondering to myself today why has no one...So, I was wondering to myself today why has no one applied for a job at the Bureau of Indian Affairs and gone to work for this travesty to be fixed that way? There is a open position listed right now as a tribal enrollment specialist. at http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=95228130&JobTitle=TRIBAL+ENROLLMENT+SPECIALIST,+GS-0301-7/9&q=bureau+of+indian+affairs&where=california&x=0&y=0&brd=3876&vw=b&FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&pg=1&rad=20&rad_units=miles&re=0&AVSDM=2011-01-04+13:10:00<br /><br />Or has anyone contacted the BIA Office of Justice? They may not be able to help with enrollment but they do help with issues pertaining to land management, I know that the Rios Family's allotment has had building done on it without proper authorization from the family head who is in possession of this allotment. I am sure others have as well, so why not go about it that way? If you start messing with their business I'm sure something is bound to happen for the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-60102719901300219572011-01-12T04:54:04.696-05:002011-01-12T04:54:04.696-05:00It took only two years to disenroll 400 people, wh...It took only two years to disenroll 400 people, why does it take so long to "catch up" for only 100 Tosobols who have land on the reservation?<br /><br />How stupid can the enrollment committee.<br /><br />Burbee, figure out the WASTE, FRAUD and ABUSE of the Enrollment committee. They've been meeting twice a week for 6 years and not enrolled ANYONE? They've been paid for each day worked. How much is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78434584195711907712011-01-12T00:57:40.059-05:002011-01-12T00:57:40.059-05:00D. Mendoza said...
O Pechanga,
I am Mich...D. Mendoza said...<br /><br /> O Pechanga,<br /><br /> I am Michael's Nephew, my Grandfather is Manuel Rios SR. I remember as a young boy-maybe around seven or eight-standing outside the Riverside County Courthouse picketing,handing out fliers and the such. I believe our family is very active in attempting to get our family enrolled, and has been for the whole decade of this moratorium. We have gone to the Department of the Interior, the Pechanga Government itself, the news media, a few years back one of my grandfather's articles made it to the front page of the newspaper. NOTHING has been done for this.<br /><br /> V/R<br /> CPL(P) Daniel V. Mendoza, NREMT-P, EMT-T<br /> 68W - Health Care Specialist<br /> U.S. ArmyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-60130756326621013242011-01-11T19:47:20.556-05:002011-01-11T19:47:20.556-05:00This is a question for Guavish Clan. Who is your f...This is a question for Guavish Clan. Who is your family, your lineage? So you don't know where the 3 kids are, and are they part of the 5 adults? I didn't understand. I think the Partridge was part of disenrollment last year, but not the tree. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-87110677204664601712011-01-11T16:41:12.625-05:002011-01-11T16:41:12.625-05:00The answer to the original question..
3 generatio...The answer to the original question..<br /><br />3 generations<br /><br />5 adults<br />2 children<br />1 uncle<br />1 cousin<br /><br />AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE....<br /><br />This is a true count of the Guavish Clan. Mary Ann Guavish had 4 children, we are taken from one of those children. The other 3 kids???????<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-38525800672811026232011-01-11T15:17:24.932-05:002011-01-11T15:17:24.932-05:00I am part of the URSUA FAMILY,in fact i`m the head...I am part of the URSUA FAMILY,in fact i`m the head of the family. My cousins and i have fought hard to end this moritorium and we`re never gonna give up that fight.My cousins mike and manuel rios mean alot to me,they`ve spent a great amount of time proving they belong, it hurts me to see them tossed aside after the time they`ve spent fighting for what belons to them.Along with my cousin gary,which also has put up this moratorium,We as the tosabol clan find it time to stop this moratoium live together as one There is no need to continue figthing as we are doing now.let the tosabol and others that rightfully belong in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-60229355510598596542011-01-11T12:26:33.708-05:002011-01-11T12:26:33.708-05:00Isn't John Munoa the elder of that line? Why...Isn't John Munoa the elder of that line? Why hasn't HE stood up for his relatives?<br /><br />What would John gain to keep his OWN family out of the tribe? Is this the definition of a scumbag?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-78438127637764544382011-01-10T23:12:48.516-05:002011-01-10T23:12:48.516-05:00See the bullies on the block have spoken. But it d...See the bullies on the block have spoken. But it doesn't mean the good kids are done playing. Who needs a enrollment form?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com