tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post3760696352601066766..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Mark Macarro Pechanga's Paper Trail of Tears Leaves Elders Dead, DishonoredOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-46986722530135437682016-10-04T16:25:39.337-04:002016-10-04T16:25:39.337-04:00The Pechanga tribe and tribal council has created ...The Pechanga tribe and tribal council has created a legacy that will follow them forever. It is so sad that the loss of spirit, community, and identity was sold for 30 pieces of silver. White Buffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418439711300071894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-66833282800704693662015-08-02T09:59:14.875-04:002015-08-02T09:59:14.875-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.shantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528899934187091741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-61132018137326233452010-06-24T23:16:31.647-04:002010-06-24T23:16:31.647-04:00My comment above for the record is NOT about money...My comment above for the record is NOT about money. It is about how greed is destroying us. <br /><br />I have been researching my family tree for months and my family is very much about the pioneers of San Diego. I found a relative who doesn't want to talk to me because she thinks it could be about indian Money. But her father lived with my grandmother as a child and she is alive and my family is mostly not.<br /><br />Money, I would love to go back to the days of barter and trade. Life was simpler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22938679102353322432010-06-24T11:23:15.291-04:002010-06-24T11:23:15.291-04:00So, in essence they keep voting in basically the s...So, in essence they keep voting in basically the same people and getting the same results.<br /><br />I am so sorry for all of us as well as our children and the indian nation 20 or 50 years from now.<br /><br />I understand the money thing because human nature is when someone gives you a hand they want the whole arm, my kids do it all the time. But really, how much money do you actually need? I cannot imagine that any family needs 200,000 odd thousand a year to be happy or even wealthy. Even if they enrolled another 500 people they would still get what, 20,000 a month?<br /><br />The problem is remember after Katrina and all the "poor" received that $2000 check they blew it. They had never had that much in their lives at any one time. They then wanted more and more until the well ran dry. People quit caring and helping. That is what is happening here. People are losing respect for the indian nations. I see it all around me due to fishing rights.<br /><br />I still don't understand how the BIA can sit back when it is their job to protect all within the realms of Indian Affairs. Are they supposed to be the higher power??<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-8495733235464887922010-06-24T02:29:47.208-04:002010-06-24T02:29:47.208-04:00The elections are every two years for both the tri...The elections are every two years for both the tribal chairman and tribal council and on alternate two years for the Pechanga Development Corporation (PDC) which oversees the casino for the tribe.<br /><br />One of the things that led to our disenrollment was when we put a member of our family on the PDC defeating Jenny (Masiel) Miranda who seemed to think she was entilted to the post no matter what the people said.<br /><br />She vowed payback for her defeat, which in large part was due to the Hunter/M. Miranda coalition which showed we were gaining poltical power within the tribe.<br /><br />Indians have an image as being somehow more spiritual than other people but I think gaming has shown that they can be just as sinful as anyone else.<br /><br />I hate to burst anyone's bubble but some tribal members don't really care or maybe some of them believe that the tribe has done right by us even if in reality it isn't the case.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-82893522320860744312010-06-23T19:53:09.310-04:002010-06-23T19:53:09.310-04:00I see. I was actually just curious if there are a...I see. I was actually just curious if there are any left in the tribe with honor and integrity for their tribe. <br /><br />I did not know if this was a yearly election or what?<br /><br />Also, the bit about moratorium people is crap. I always knew I was Pechanga and I had my BIA number and I thought I was enrolled. I was a kid. It was not until I received a letter from the BIA that I realized I was not enrolled in the tribe, just with California.<br /><br />Now I have to apply, wait and prove. How could I have known to register when everyone is dead?<br /><br />So I am soo sorry that enrolled members think I should have, cuz I could have and would have.<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-10487208836860385962010-06-23T19:09:30.216-04:002010-06-23T19:09:30.216-04:00"They don't know (or some don't care)..."They don't know (or some don't care) that the tribal council could not legally keep us the Hunters from being disenrolled after the tribe voted to end disenrollment as a part of tribal law."<br /><br /><br />TYPO ON THIS ONE, I MEANT TO SAY THAT WE COULDN'T LEGALLY BE DISENROLLED IN 2006 AFTER THE LAW OUTLAWING DISENROLLMENT WAS PASSED IN 2005 BUT THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW OR DIDN'T CARE THAT THE COUNCIL ILLEGALLY ALLOWED US TO BE DISENROLLED.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-28308387916879621932010-06-23T15:14:26.132-04:002010-06-23T15:14:26.132-04:001. The people don't know what happened to us ...1. The people don't know what happened to us the disenrolled (or some don't care) as it was done behind closed doors and a lot of them don't know our rights were violated.<br /><br />2. They don't know (or some don't care) that the tribal council could not legally keep us the Hunters from being disenrolled after the tribe voted to end disenrollment as a part of tribal law.<br /><br />3. They don't know (or some don't care) that the moratorium should have been ruled unconstitutional long ago as a lot of them think that since the majority voted for it on several occasions, that they can't do anything about it.<br /><br />Unfortunately the attitude of a lot of tribal members can be summed up by a conversation I had with an elder, I can't remember what family he is from, a while back who told me that he knew what happened to us is wrong but that he just doesn't get involved in "those sort of things."<br /><br />So to answer as to why people like Macarro keep getting reelected, beyond the major opposition that was removed by the disernollment of 25 percent of the tribe in the past six years and the keeping out of probably even larger numbers than that via the moratoritum, is that if rights violations don't effect those who vote personally, then they don't give it much thought.<br /><br />Plus there is a prevailing attitude among tribal members that people stuck in the moratorium had plenty of time to enroll so why didn't they enroll before (not my attitude as I have always thought it was wrong) and they don't know (again or don't care)that a lot of people who are stuck in the moratotium beat the deadline but are still being kept out.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-90212766039257439042010-06-23T09:56:09.878-04:002010-06-23T09:56:09.878-04:00Sorry to be negative but this is a strange convers...Sorry to be negative but this is a strange conversation. First, it doesn't matter what any of us want, none of us get to nominate anyone or vote. Second, most people that read this aren't going to vote for someone because we think they a better choice, if anything they vote the opposite of how we would want them to vote. <br />Tribal members will vote in their own family first, followed by the families their closest to. Tribal members simple don’t vote for who they think is the best candidate, you can see that by looking at the education and experience of some of the elected officials. It’s not that surprising though with all that has happened; it’s like a reality show where you might get voted out, i.e. disenrolled, if you make the wrong move. It is a shame though the tribe and casino would run much better if the tribe elected the most qualified candidates to run them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-56269684221137392902010-06-23T00:11:59.652-04:002010-06-23T00:11:59.652-04:00well has anyone come up with a better candidate th...well has anyone come up with a better candidate than Maccarro for tribal leader?? If noone can help members think of a better leader for their tribe, why bother voting in change?<br /><br />I am not being snotty, I am just trying to get some involvement that helps make a change<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-22351401835524924762010-06-20T02:38:33.183-04:002010-06-20T02:38:33.183-04:00This hunters blog has much more heart then any of ...This hunters blog has much more heart then any of the others,easy to see,(thats leadership)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-6255606521867406132010-06-20T02:34:59.086-04:002010-06-20T02:34:59.086-04:00It matters not how strait the gait,
How charged wi...It matters not how strait the gait,<br />How charged with punishments the scroll,<br />I am the master of my fate:<br />I am the captain of my soul.<br /><br /><br />william henley,,,,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-70764927757922047032010-06-20T02:00:01.568-04:002010-06-20T02:00:01.568-04:00Freedom lies in being bold.
I hold it to be the i...Freedom lies in being bold.<br /><br />I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.<br /><br />The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work.<br /><br />Robert FrostAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-11720623363064650822010-06-20T01:45:08.291-04:002010-06-20T01:45:08.291-04:00The learned is happy, nature to explore, the fool ...The learned is happy, nature to explore, the fool is happy, that he knows no more.<br />- Alexander PopeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-67739499219062944272010-06-19T18:12:35.326-04:002010-06-19T18:12:35.326-04:00I think jester is talking about ,Fantasy versus &q...I think jester is talking about ,Fantasy versus "Reality" ,I think people should talk about what avenue to take to get back into the tribe before they decide who would make a decent leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-69592070794247618652010-06-19T03:20:47.939-04:002010-06-19T03:20:47.939-04:00And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss ...And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. <br />Friedrich NietzscheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-90633032959041728682010-06-19T03:15:58.654-04:002010-06-19T03:15:58.654-04:00All things are subject to interpretation whichever...All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth. <br />Friedrich NietzscheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16487265563620733232010-06-18T22:28:00.740-04:002010-06-18T22:28:00.740-04:00you jest; I sardonically laugh. Pechanga was hija...you jest; I sardonically laugh. Pechanga was hijacked in 78-79. Only jackals and hyenna;voracious wolves of no descendancy blind with greed. <br /><br />When even a former police chief is illegally sitting on council and Russell Murphy is brazenly sitting on council can steal, violate people's civil and human rights. You can see what wasichu are doing under cover of false sovereignty. <br /><br />Gomez is not eligible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-7894799054709462982010-06-18T11:37:50.583-04:002010-06-18T11:37:50.583-04:00sometimes its not so much ability as love and a se...sometimes its not so much ability as love and a sense of right and wrong. I suggested you because I hear how you speak of the tribe, STILL.<br /><br />Next, Who is left on the res for good candidates? maybe they don't know they should run.<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-35574311157574655652010-06-18T11:16:53.386-04:002010-06-18T11:16:53.386-04:00Oh, I forgot to add, the election is in July but I...Oh, I forgot to add, the election is in July but I haven't seen who is running.<br /><br />Maybe O.P. or somebody else can post the candidates.<br /><br />I will if I can find out who they are.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-2482106028562194672010-06-18T11:14:08.687-04:002010-06-18T11:14:08.687-04:00sanjuanflorist, thanks for the plug but while I th...sanjuanflorist, thanks for the plug but while I think I have a certain amount of common sense, I don't think I am qualified to lead a government.<br /><br />I think John Gomez Jr would be a good choice but, I almost forgot, he was banished by the current corrupt regime'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-15594841834686571902010-06-17T22:53:30.421-04:002010-06-17T22:53:30.421-04:00when is the election? I was wondering if someone ...when is the election? I was wondering if someone should post a better candidate or two. The person should be humble and have a desire to return the tribe to its whole status of greatness.<br /><br />I think people should be given a thought on who might be a better replacement, maybe noone can think of any and since at the moment aamokat is unavailable to represent us, who would be equipped to handle the task at hand and set things right?<br /><br />I am not saying there aren't rolls to clean up, but EVERYONE deserves the chance to be heard.<br /><br />Those of you who are allowed to live there, own property there, think of an alternate leader, share with us the whys of your choice and share with your friends and neighbors.<br /><br />Is this a yearly election or .....<br /><br />sanjuanfloristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-86871079878478012302010-06-17T21:07:42.698-04:002010-06-17T21:07:42.698-04:00thanks aamokat,,,,it,s a shot in the dark, oh we...thanks aamokat,,,,it,s a shot in the dark, oh well,,,joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-6828261560704320292010-06-17T14:52:17.461-04:002010-06-17T14:52:17.461-04:00At least Mr. Liska is trying so we have to give hi...At least Mr. Liska is trying so we have to give him a lot credit for doing that because if we don't do anything, then those who have commited injustice against us did get away with it.<br /><br />Everything that is being done are like pieces of a puzzle that will fit together.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-2028916691749818302010-06-16T21:27:19.684-04:002010-06-16T21:27:19.684-04:00The hunters are a good family,there is some others...The hunters are a good family,there is some others that are good also,there is alot of anger and hurt out there san juan,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com