tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post3396470181738886666..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: This Week in March 2004, The Corrupt Pechanga Tribal Council Led By Mark Macarro Allowed the Disenrollment of The Manuel Miranda Descendents.OPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-54622046471288054032012-03-19T10:24:39.117-04:002012-03-19T10:24:39.117-04:00Yes, like FRANCES MIRANDA...APISHYes, like FRANCES MIRANDA...APISHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-85428575785162448342012-03-19T10:15:56.008-04:002012-03-19T10:15:56.008-04:00About fairness, I was speaking about how none of u...About fairness, I was speaking about how none of us can expect any kind of fairness internally, we all know the decision to disenroll was a foregone conclusion. So what are we to do?<br /><br />Of course Anotherview will come here and say that Temecula Chief Pablo Apish was not Pechanga because he died decades before the people were moved to the reservation but if that is the case, then none of other Pechanga people are Pechanga either as everyone has, of course, ancestors that died before the reservation was created.<br /><br />Ironic that, also, a lot of people still in the tribe are descendants of Apish.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-14561457410123213002012-03-19T08:03:23.609-04:002012-03-19T08:03:23.609-04:00Fair? Since when has this Tribal Council and Elect...Fair? Since when has this Tribal Council and Election committee ever been Fair! I know as a fact that not one of the Tribal Council and Chairman ever read the 2 notebooks full of documents on the Manuella Family's appeal to the Council for membership! Documents proving they were related to the Great Historical Chief Pablo Apish. This was a planned THEFT of MEMBERSHIP & TRIBAL BENNIFITS not to mention Native American IDENITY, from an age old Legitimate Family of our Tribe... Signed, A non-member of the Manuella Family who just wants to see Justice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-52777434488833057522012-03-19T05:31:17.193-04:002012-03-19T05:31:17.193-04:00Any fair real court of law would throw out the cas...Any fair real court of law would throw out the case against the Manuela Miranda family on the basis of no due process alone if they would hear it.<br /><br />Again, the equal protection under Article V of the Band's constitution was violated when the Manuela Miranda family were disenrolled.<br /><br />“IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF ALL ELECTED OFFICERS OF THE BAND TO UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION, BYLAWS, AND ORDINANCES OF THE TEMECULA BAND OF LUISENO MISSION INDIANS; AND, ALSO TO UPHOLD THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF EACH MEMBER WITHOUT MALICE OR PREJUDICE.”<br /><br />But if a tribe won't follow their own rules, then who can make them do so?<br /><br />The tribe's own membership? Well, they all got a raise in their per capita payments, two times now, when people were disenrolled and they would get less money if they were let back in.<br /><br />Many of them know it was wrong to disenroll these people but other than a few who submitted depositions in support the of the disenrolled's membership before they were disenrolled, none of them care enough to take a stand for what is right or are scared to fight the leadership because they think they could be disenrolled themselves for doing so. <br /><br />So what are the disenrolled to do?'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-69321500564470852462012-03-18T23:26:52.876-04:002012-03-18T23:26:52.876-04:00A tribal member who usually calls himself Anotherv...A tribal member who usually calls himself Anotherview may come here and say that the disenrolled from Pechanga got due process despite the fact that the same people who were the deciding votes on the enrollment committee who decided, for example, that the Manuela Miranda family was kicked out of their tribe, were very close relatives of witnesses against the family and who should have been recused from ruling on their case because of conflict of interest which violated the equal protection clause in the tribe's own constitution that forbids malice or prejudice against tribal members but they were allowed to rule on the Manuela Miranda family case anyway.<br /><br />People wonder what the other side of the issue is and why were people kicked out of the their tribes.<br /><br />Well in the case of the families who lost their citizenship in their nation at Pechanga, the whole so called case against them was some current elders with a conflict of interest saying they never were legitimate tribal members that an error was made when they were enrolled which was contradicted by other current elders who didn't have a conflict of interest who said they are legitimate tribal members and by other very strong evidence in the families' favor.<br /><br />Am I the only one who sees that in tribe after tribe who have gotten gambling casinos a lot of the tribes all of a sudden are saying after they have gaming that they are correcting errors in their respective enrollments?<br /><br />What! Are these gaming tribes incompetent and they didn't even know who their own people were prior to gaming?<br /><br />Article V of the Temecula Band of Luiseno Mission Indians’ constitution and bylaws, sometimes referred to as the Pechanga Band of Mission Indians (title from the Band’s constitution and bylaws preamble), states the following<br /><br />“IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF ALL ELECTED OFFICERS OF THE BAND TO UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION, BYLAWS, AND ORDINANCES OF THE TEMECULA BAND OF LUISENO MISSION INDIANS; AND, ALSO TO UPHOLD THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF EACH MEMBER WITHOUT MALICE OR PREJUDICE.”<br /><br />So how was allowing biased enrollment committee members with a clear conflict of interest who were very close relatives of key witnesses against the disenrolled and who made statements prior to the disenrollments such as, “it doesn’t matter what you turn in you are being disenrolled anyway,” not a violation of the Band’s equal protection clause under Article V and how did the families get due process?<br /><br />ANOTHERVIEW, TELLS US ALL SPECFICALLY HOW THE FAMLIES GOT DUE PROCESS!'aamokatnoreply@blogger.com