tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post3206672139594480110..comments2024-03-28T06:01:57.947-04:00Comments on <center>Original Pechanga Blog</center>: Takedown of Mark Macarro's Statement on Disenrollment at PechangaOPechangahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10687743661360604165noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-63811834499426881912014-04-06T03:01:15.705-04:002014-04-06T03:01:15.705-04:00I am seriously thinking about trying to put togeth...I am seriously thinking about trying to put together a Native American Revival.If possible,try to invite Elders from different Tribes that are willing to come and partake in the cleanzing of our Reservation, as well as others<br />that want to be involved.<br />It seems to work for the Christian<br />Churches that have their revivals.<br />Does anyone have any input on this idea.Because i will need help<br />in trying to put it together.<br />Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-32606916619936852472014-04-05T23:38:29.754-04:002014-04-05T23:38:29.754-04:00The true irony of this is that had it not been for...The true irony of this is that had it not been for Indian Gaming the Pechanga Band of Mission Indians would have become extinct. I know of the corruption at Pechanga first hand, I formally worked at the casino where corruption is rampant as well; so much so that private investigators are hired by the band itself- yet theft via cheating and fabricated numbers are reported by their own management team. This is the illusion of sovereignty. So it goes.icatallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-73288990150728708662014-04-05T23:22:31.670-04:002014-04-05T23:22:31.670-04:00You are not reminding anyone, but thank you for sh...You are not reminding anyone, but thank you for sharing your feelings.<br />The truth is no matter if it was 100 yrs ago or today, some people do not see things the same way. I do believe in what you share about tradition, and the word "Karma" is Indian, maybe not from our band but it explains things you may agree with or disagree with. No matter if we agree or disagree on small things it is not acceptable to say its OK that acts be broadcast against others because they do not agree with me. Today the broadcast I see is "dis-enrolled" current band members from a band who suffered these acts by outsiders 100 yrs ago who wanted them pushed around"our ancestors" in the past. That is not our tradition, and no one is more Indian than anyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-42406572146605115002014-04-05T22:20:36.887-04:002014-04-05T22:20:36.887-04:00It does no good to complain about ignorance of the...It does no good to complain about ignorance of the old ways and then to talk about Karma. The concept of Karma comes from a different culture; it is not the Indian way.<br /><br />The Indian way is to gather in a circle and pray. The Indian way is to go on a quest and seek visions. The Indian way is to mete out justice by shaming the evildoers.<br /><br />This is our tradition. Why do I have to remind you of that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-26236104167752460592014-04-01T16:41:18.664-04:002014-04-01T16:41:18.664-04:00Shit can be cleaned up with water,
but corruption ...Shit can be cleaned up with water,<br />but corruption needs to be stomped<br />out and made sure it never returns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-10353670913352680382014-04-01T11:10:12.548-04:002014-04-01T11:10:12.548-04:00It will feel good for a moment and then you look d...It will feel good for a moment and then you look down at your hands! You now have their sh*t on you. You do make me smile, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-31041130089095192222014-03-31T00:25:36.029-04:002014-03-31T00:25:36.029-04:00@ 11:32 AM
God helps those who help themselfs
so h...@ 11:32 AM<br />God helps those who help themselfs<br />so help yourself and kick the shit out of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-64433222624653913322014-03-29T00:34:56.991-04:002014-03-29T00:34:56.991-04:00@ 11:32
Exactly!! The band can sit back and allow...@ 11:32<br /><br />Exactly!! The band can sit back and allow it to continue, or oppose the misbehavior.<br /><br />End result is the Creator is eatching snd will help good or bad behavior and pay it forward with KARMA.<br /><br />Tick TockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-50404979185162396302014-03-28T14:32:52.458-04:002014-03-28T14:32:52.458-04:00As stated on March 25, "just beat the shit ou...As stated on March 25, "just beat the shit out of them, male or female" It also stated this would be how it would have been handled 20 or 30 years ago. There is the problem ! Our Native customs and traditions DID NOT start 20 or 30 yrs. ago. 99% of tribal members do not know the old customs and can never succeed using made up customs and traditions. Each side calls the other phonies. No one wants the real Laws given by our Great Creator. Made up rules are made to fail. I for one am tired of all this name calling and accusing everyone. Wrong is wrong but lying, cheating and going against the people is not our way. Those who take this path will see Karma in a big way. Give our problems to our Great Creator. He sees the wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-7042237745567747552014-03-28T12:22:46.702-04:002014-03-28T12:22:46.702-04:00@ 27th. 4:27
"They want your alotted land an...@ 27th. 4:27<br /><br />"They want your alotted land and wayer rights."<br /><br />Corrupt acts always end exposing corrupt actions. Always, alwaysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16201139241427239192014-03-27T19:00:48.510-04:002014-03-27T19:00:48.510-04:00The corrupt have went to the media, and Congress l...The corrupt have went to the media, and Congress look at the actor in corruption Macarro. Interviewed by Channel 4 and approached Congress for a water rights settlement. Misinformation showed his corruption and it follows him daily. The band could save itself and stop the corruption. Indians live together whether we get along or not. Disenrolling and Apartheid not Indian way. The band could correct it before corrupt actions get fixed from outside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-24441518945608365182014-03-27T11:42:25.485-04:002014-03-27T11:42:25.485-04:00They want your allotted land...water rights, etc. ...They want your allotted land...water rights, etc. Macarro, Miranda, ie Frances, Basquez, I can keep going on with this "click", their next step is to landlock you from going to your property, this way they have full control. I know, they have done this to me. This corruption must stop! Let's band together, eventually we will be heard, the media is the way to go! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-76476125349308985062014-03-26T23:19:41.853-04:002014-03-26T23:19:41.853-04:00Corrupt members can't explain their acts witho...Corrupt members can't explain their acts without lies and misinformation. Not only today, but even after you leave you will not be able to explain. Sad. Even sadder you would feel the same way if acts where targeting you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-12361914748415079472014-03-26T23:14:49.801-04:002014-03-26T23:14:49.801-04:00PECHANGA= Temecula band of Luiseno Mission Indians...PECHANGA= Temecula band of Luiseno Mission Indians.<br /><br />LUISENO Mission Indians= San Luis Rey Mission Indians.<br /><br />Apartheid = corrupt acts sent against Indians out of greed. <br /><br />KARMAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-71444895556261709462014-03-26T23:08:51.628-04:002014-03-26T23:08:51.628-04:00Indian way is always allow the band to determine w...Indian way is always allow the band to determine which way the band goes. As posted Pechanga allows petetions to be brought. All comments posted above are true. Indians allowed the Murphy's to be accepted and also pasted another petetion to stop the corrupt acts of tribal disenrollment, before the corrupt pushed for the disenrollment of the Hunter clan. Allotted clan of the Pechanga reservation. Elders accepted "all" so should their ancestors. MURPHY'S ACCEPTED, HUNTERS ALSO. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-15573837996589371882014-03-26T18:20:36.957-04:002014-03-26T18:20:36.957-04:00No, the Murphys are legally in as the people did v...No, the Murphys are legally in as the people did vote in 1986 to take them in as tribal members just as they did to end disenrollment in 2005. <br /><br />The Temecula Band of Luiseno Mission Indians' tribal constitution and bylaws, sometimes referred to as the Pechanga Band, states that the general council (membership) are the finally authority in all matters of the business and government of the Band unless otherwise stated in the constitution and bylaws.<br /><br />The band's constitution and bylaws does not state that the people are not the final authority regarding enrollment issues and Mr. Murphy is proof that the people have this final authority.<br /><br />Now it is ethically right that Mr. Murphy is in and the Hunters are out? No it is not right as either they follow their own constitution or they don't follow it and violate it which they did when the Hunters were disenrolled in 2006.<br /><br />Of course, scoundrels often turn on each other as it wouldn't surprise me if Mark did try to get rid of Butch after they worked together to get rid of the Hunters. I haven't heard this is the case though but these days I am somewhat out of the loop.'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-16229112728645339052014-03-26T17:45:09.016-04:002014-03-26T17:45:09.016-04:00So what I'm getting from this is that the Murp...So what I'm getting from this is that the Murphy's are illegally tribal members and should be removed as such. by Marks own words. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-75931391161716985462014-03-26T16:47:48.581-04:002014-03-26T16:47:48.581-04:00We the Hunters got a letter from the tribal counci...We the Hunters got a letter from the tribal council, two days before our Record of Decision telling us we were kicked out of the tribe and eight months after the tribe voted to outlaw disenrollment, that we were not included in the new law because, according to the letter, the people were not the final authority in matters of enrollment that the enrollment committee had the final authority. The council said that tribal legal precedent stated this.<br /><br />However, the only tribal legal precedent there is concerning these matters is when in the 1980s after the descendants of Rose Murphy, including sitting councilman Russell Butch Murphy, were turned down for tribal membership by the enrollment committee, the tribe voted to overrule the committee to take them in as tribal members.<br /><br />So Mr. Murphy, who sat in judgment of the Hunters, is living breathing proof that the people are the final authority in matters of enrollment so if they could vote to take him in the 1980s as a tribal member, the people could and did in 2005 also vote to keep us, the Hunters, in the tribe and this is backed up by the tribe's own constitution and bylaws.<br /><br />But what are we to do when our tribe doesn't even follow their own rules?'aamokatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-34838105924557063432014-03-26T14:26:14.351-04:002014-03-26T14:26:14.351-04:00Macarro did not allow the band to speak for itself...Macarro did not allow the band to speak for itself. The band voted on a petition before the Hunter family was disenrolled. The petition was put forward to stopall disenrollments. During the bands meeting the legal department said the petition was legal, and the band voted. The vote passed the petition to stop "all" disenrollents. Before the next band meeting Macarro went against the band put the law to the side and allowed the corrupt band members to disenroll the Hunter family. Time to take the band back, put the corrupt actors under control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-48843796033360299352014-03-25T21:51:34.224-04:002014-03-25T21:51:34.224-04:00It is really sad that no Feseral Agency seems to g...It is really sad that no Feseral Agency seems to give a shit that Smith And Nieto are corrupt and stealing the Tribe blind. They say that they can not get involved with an "Internal Tribal"<br />dispute. So if that is really the frame of mind of these Federal Agencys, then screw it, and lets handle it at a Tribal Level, and go with the Customs & Triditions of the Tribe.<br />If this would have happened 20-30 years ago, Tribal Members would have taken things into there own hands and beat the shit out of these bastards, male or female.<br />If this is the only Justice available, then what the hell are we waiting for.If the reservation is a sovereign nation, that means that we the people of the Tribe are to be considered sovereign.<br />I just don't see that waiting any longer will help things,these scum<br />bags need to know that there are serious ass kickings comming their way.<br />This is the only thing that they will understand, because they use the sovereignty weapon to beat their own people,so let use our own hands to beat them down.Put a little hurt on them. Other wise they will continue to hurt their own people until there is nothing left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-38675351921952530862014-03-25T17:31:32.539-04:002014-03-25T17:31:32.539-04:00Talk talk talk talk talk. That's all I ever se...Talk talk talk talk talk. That's all I ever see. Blah blah blah blah. Actions speak louder than words. I don't live in Cali or I'd be one of the first to show up. However u give me a time and place and proof that someone will actually stand with me and stop talkin shit. I'd be glad to jump on a plane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-27217171425575592462014-03-25T17:07:59.322-04:002014-03-25T17:07:59.322-04:00Does anyone believe Kilma is to blame for everythi...Does anyone believe Kilma is to blame for everything?<br /><br />The problems started before Kilma was tribal secretary and they have continued after his resignation. The position of tribal secretary does not have the power to enforce the orders that have been made.<br /><br />This is all on Robert Smith's shoulders. He is the cowardly criminal who engineered the disenrollments. He is a liar and a thief. There is tons of proof of his wrongdoing. The only thing standing between him and a jail cell is his claim of sovereign immunity. The people of Pala should request a limited waiver of sovereignty so they can prosecute Robert Smith. <br /><br />Stealing from Indians is a crime, just like stealing from white people. Robert Smith believes that he has permission to steal from his own people because he is sovereign. All that needs to be done is to get a waiver of immunity, and press charges of grand larceny, embezzlement, misappropriations of funds, and conversion. Then this wicked dictator could be deposed, convicted, and imprisoned for his crimes.<br /><br />It is time for people to think about the future of Pala without Robert Smith pulling the strings. Smith and Nieto will look good in orange jumpsuits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-36980053319313324952014-03-25T15:32:49.966-04:002014-03-25T15:32:49.966-04:00You know whats really funny.
Robert Smith acts li...You know whats really funny. <br />Robert Smith acts like he is a tough guy at the meetings,and his<br />bag of shit partner, Theresa Nieto<br />thinks her shit doesn't stink.<br />Well Robert Smith is one of the weakest people that walks this earth.He doesn't even have the balls to speak one on one with any<br />of the dis-enrolled, and totally blames Kilma for everything.It would serve him right to get his ass kicked so bad that he wouldn't<br />even be reconizable. I don't know why it hasn't happened yet, but have heard rummers that its comming real soon. Not only to him but also to Theresa Nieto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-80133714662367238632014-03-25T13:28:51.498-04:002014-03-25T13:28:51.498-04:00Leroy Miranda fought hard to ram a lie down the th...Leroy Miranda fought hard to ram a lie down the throats of Pala. Margarita Britten is full blood, her father's identity has been established, the tribe's General Council voted to correct her blood degree, the BIA issued a final decision, but Leroy believed a lie told to him long ago and kept harping on it and Robert Smith made it happen because he could profit from it.<br /><br />Don't try to gloss over Leroy Miranda's part in the disenrollments. He is as guilty as Robert Smith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2887382220113280558.post-47739865128469499022014-03-25T13:11:39.858-04:002014-03-25T13:11:39.858-04:00It's not that I should. It's I could.It's not that I should. It's I could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com