Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Breaking News: Federal District Court Signs Injunction Halting Disenrollment at San Pascual

Tough, but fair, Judge Irma Gonzalez halts Echo Hawks ruling against the Alto Family.

We wrote about the Alto family lawsuit here and about his INACTION here. Larry seems to want to get rid of Indians.

The story is developing and  here is Court Decision by Judge Irma Gonzalez

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well well ,Irma Gonzalez was Joe Liska's Judge in the Pechanga Case and many people saw her in action in San Diego.

Anonymous said...

I guess your not all that and a bag of chips, (ECHOHAWK)god damn if he can't do that right what else did he screw up?

I guess IRMA is not part of the GANG ECHOHAWK?

LETS talk about KAREN HEWITT (san diego attorney generals office)(eric holder) that resigned in the middle of JOE LISKA'S case WHEN HE acussed her office (FAILING HIM)? HMM?

for ALL nations...for ALL chukchansi people said...

great news!!!!

Anonymous said...

It’s strange that Riesling ruled to stop the disenrollment now a federal judge Irma Gonzales Rules the same. Larry Echoduck ruled for disenrollment. Do they review the same documentation? When Larry Echoduck came to conference at Pechanga he brought his brother and discus setting up a tribal court system. What better way for Larry Echoduck to rule in favor of these Tribes then to set up a kangaroo court systems and then say these people have gone thought a proper appeal process and rule in favor of disenrollment.

Anonymous said...

HEY JOE I GUESS YOU DID NOT LOSE YOUR CASE AFTER ALL YOU HELPED MAKE HISTORY WITH IRMAS HELP BY EXPOSING CORRUPTION OF CURRENT TRIBES IN POWER AND ECHOHAWKS KICKBACKS TO THE CORRUPT congratulations warpony says POLYSQWALIS YOU LEFT A MARK

smokeybear said...

How great is that? What an Absolute Idiot" that "Ecohawk is." His "Favortism" for the "Casino Indian" is well known to all of us in "Indian Country." His actions are "Deliberate and with Malice of Forethought" when dealing with the "Oppressed Native American Indians" in his charge. Let us hope that this "Plays Out Well" for the good of all. Thanks, "Warpony," you make us "Proud!"...."Justice, In A World Of Injustice" is now a little "Brighter!"

Anonymous said...

Polysqwalis, there is good news relating to landowners rights violated by tribes.(granted, these landowners who fought back are not Indians....however, they won their case.

There has been a victory by others regarding violations of landowners rights by tribes.

A court found for landowners; the argument was made that all rights flow with ownership.

What Pechanga is doing is illegal. B.I.A. has been complicit in crimes against landowners.

Fred Doka, Virgil Townsend, and James Joaquin Fletcher have been financially enriched by their active in refusing to protect landowners against criminal councils and criminal 'police.'

Anonymous said...

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'aamokat said...

Yes, Joe (Warpony) you helped in the cause of justice for all with your lawsuit against Pechanga as the judge is seeing a pattern by these tribes where maybe your case and ours too can be revisited.

The Altos of San Pasqual aren't home free yet though as the tribe will likely hide behind
sovereignty like the tribe that was ordered to reinstate their members in Washington State did.

But this like is a large card playing card display house waiting to all come tumbling down at some point, I hope sooner than later.

Anonymous said...

breaking ground all must bring a united disenfranchised lawsuit all indian country what say we join legally for land lost stolen,iilegal membership REMOVAL banishment moritorium from all indian COUNTRY in class action hundreds or more that OUR government has failed and diregarded the 5 th ammendment sanctions are appropriate and should be enacted THIS CASE WILL OPEN OUR DOOR WE JUST NEED A NATIVE LAW PROFESSIONAL ATTOURNEY

UNITED WE STAND [UPRISING HAS COME

WHAT SAT YOU FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS PUT IT OUT AND KEEP THE AWARNESS GOING FIGHT TO UNITE THIS RULING HAS CRACKED SOVREIGNTY IN THE BIGGEST WAY READ IRMAS RULING

Anonymous said...

Alto family you have gotten everything that belongs to you back from a thief in the night finally Justice has Preveiled !!! CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU JUDGE GONZALES FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL OF OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS AND NATIVE AMERICANS
POLYSQWALIS

'aamokat said...

But a federal judge ruled that the people who were kicked out of the Snoqualmie tribe in Washington State be reinstated but that tribe flatly refused to obey the order so the Altos at San Pasqual may not be back in their tribe yet as San Pasqual could do the same thing and ignore or appeal the order.

But this is still a victory.

Anonymous said...

The San Pascual constitution GIVES the Federal government the right to rule on tribal membership.

It IS a victory for aggrieved Indians, and points to some collusion in our government, I think.

Anonymous said...

Judge Irma Gonzalez was willing to place sanctions on a tribe in a previous case. (that's not an issue).

Anonymous said...

"SQAUNTO" SAYS'...
To:Ed Sifuentes,...
Where's your "News" on this case for you are for the tribe, is it because you have been given alot of free meals at the "Casino" or is it because of the free "hotel stays" too? Come on "Jornalist" waiting for your reponse on your breaking "News".

O Pechanga said...

Ed is on Vacation until the 26th of December.

He requested more informaton and I sent it to him.

Squanto, you need to send people to this blog and help our traffic. The papers won't write every week about this.

There will be an article in the Fresno Bee this week on Chukchansi's disenrollment.

Anonymous said...

It is great news to hear that judge gonzalez made a great decision!
what I really want to know is what is the tribe doing to start getting the alto family reinstated. By federal law they have to do so.....
and what i really want to know is if the tribal members know yet. From some they didnt even know the altos were still fighting this.

smokeybear said...

Does anyone really know what's going to come from this court decision? Wasn't that the same as the "Snowqualmie 9?" There had to be something there for the courts to rule in their favor, but they are still on the "Outside Looking In." Carolyn, can you give us a little "Insight" into the simalarities, if any, between your case and this one? Is it, in all "Actuality" the "Same?" For, in your case, your "Tribe" refused to honor your court decision.

Anonymous said...

If they knew, they'd be psychic wouldn't they?

The San Pascual tribe ceded some of their responsibility to the federal government.

Actually, they are still IN. The injunction keeps them from being OUT.

There is NO decision yet, just an injunction. But from READING it, it seems like the judge thinks there is a good chance that the Alto family could win on the merits.

Anonymous said...

Smokeybear,

We can't know what will happen with this court decision. We do know that this small victory is good for those of us who struggle to win back our rights.

We can only write the newspapers in support, write our congressmen. So fucking what if nothing has happened yet? The Wright brothers didn't get their first plane off the ground. And tribes didn't get their first casino plan to fly either.

The struggle is an ongoing battle. Some may back off, others come late wondering where the urgency is.

This fight of ours is going to be a long one. It will be chipping away at the tribes, shining lights on the roaches if you will.

Keep fighting, bring reinforcements.

smokeybear said...

I was questioning the similarities between this case and the "Snowqualmie 9's case. I'm in the standback and "Hide and Watch Mode" too. We'll just have to see how this will "Play Out." Every "Victory" is a push foreward in our fight against the "Injustices" that "Pervail!"

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said...
If they knew, they'd be psychic wouldn't they?

That is "Somewhat" a "Crude Statement," for none of us has the "Ability To Envision" any sort of realistic outcome that "May Or May Not" happen. All we have at our "Disposal," at this particular time, is what has happened, in the past, when "Court Decisions and Sovereignty Clash." I'm asking about possible Similarities...."O.K!"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous
"SQAUNTO SAYS"
Thank you Moegan Cook for your comment in the NCTIMES about "BIAS" It's a good thing that somebody out thier in the Jornalizim world has enough to say, and be able to understand the motives of the world and it's problems with the "Greed" and forethought of others.

Anonymous said...

We are all thankful that at least one Judge can stand up for the people. It at least gives us all a little bit of hope. Lets be thankful for that part of it. We all need to fight this corruption together and make a difference for the future of all Native people and that future is our children and we need to change things for them. We all need to make BIA, IBIA and every other government agency aware of the corrupt BIA officials that are holding office right now. They are not all bad but shit there seems to be a lot of them. I can blast out a handful right now in the Northern Cali part and Sac office alone. Then you have the favors being done by these BIA officials by the ex BIA guys and we get shit on. Its all about GREED not about helping our Tribes become self sufficient or above the poverty line. White man don't care, white man doesn't give two shits about us until they want our money or our land, that's what needs to be changed.

smokeybear said...

Anonymous said: There has been a victory by others regarding violations of landowners rights by tribes. (Non Indian)

A court found for landowners; the argument was made that all rights flow with ownership. (Non Indian)

This statement, by the courts, that: "All Rights Flow with Ownership," and should, also, apply to "Allottees" on "Reservations." Land given to "Native Americans,".."ALONE," proves..."LINEAGE!"..."Sovereignty"must not "Interfere" with these rights, for you can't have it "Both Ways!"

Anonymous said...

Well from a white mans point of view ill say to all u. U ignorant selfish greedy jerks from san pasqual. Along with alan dumbass lawson who have tryed to out the altos for all these yrs may u all rott in hell cuz that is were ull be going when u die u might as well sold ur soul to the devil like our goverment has cuz u guys have no idea what is in store for u for being such greedy ass in human animals that u are and alls those kind of people like u end up with is nothing un the end cuz the truth always prevails and justice. Will soon come to the altos which indeed have way more blood in them than any of u dirt bags alls u have done is reserved u a spot in hell were u belong and I mean this too ull all be burning. As well as lawson who is gonna burn the most so my next question is how do u people sleep at night u are about the most illiterate pack of animals I have ever seen. Yet and I have no dought in the end each one of u retarded so called tribal members will be crying to god for for givness and to be forgived for ur dirty sins but u wont be heard and ull be very sorry u had to be the monsters u are cuz the ones with greed end up with nothing so go to hell san pasqual alan lawson the party has just begun u half breed no good idiot with shit for brains u are a idiot u know that big cry baby no back bone loser ull be getting ur place ib office soon the electric chair for fraud jack ass retard

Anonymous said...

Well from a white mans point of view ill say to all u. U ignorant selfish greedy jerks from san pasqual. Along with alan dumbass lawson who have tryed to out the altos for all these yrs may u all rott in hell cuz that is were ull be going when u die u might as well sold ur soul to the devil like our goverment has cuz u guys have no idea what is in store for u for being such greedy ass in human animals that u are and alls those kind of people like u end up with is nothing un the end cuz the truth always prevails and justice. Will soon come to the altos which indeed have way more blood in them than any of u dirt bags alls u have done is reserved u a spot in hell were u belong and I mean this too ull all be burning. As well as lawson who is gonna burn the most so my next question is how do u people sleep at night u are about the most illiterate pack of animals I have ever seen. Yet and I have no dought in the end each one of u retarded so called tribal members will be crying to god for for givness and to be forgived for ur dirty sins but u wont be heard and ull be very sorry u had to be the monsters u are cuz the ones with greed end up with nothing so go to hell san pasqual alan lawson the party has just begun u half breed no good idiot with shit for brains u are a idiot u know that big cry baby no back bone loser ull be getting ur place ib office soon the electric chair for fraud jack ass retard

Anonymous said...

Well from a white mans point of view ill say to all u. U ignorant selfish greedy jerks from san pasqual. Along with alan dumbass lawson who have tryed to out the altos for all these yrs may u all rott in hell cuz that is were ull be going when u die u might as well sold ur soul to the devil like our goverment has cuz u guys have no idea what is in store for u for being such greedy ass in human animals that u are and alls those kind of people like u end up with is nothing un the end cuz the truth always prevails and justice. Will soon come to the altos which indeed have way more blood in them than any of u dirt bags alls u have done is reserved u a spot in hell were u belong and I mean this too ull all be burning. As well as lawson who is gonna burn the most so my next question is how do u people sleep at night u are about the most illiterate pack of animals I have ever seen. Yet and I have no dought in the end each one of u retarded so called tribal members will be crying to god for for givness and to be forgived for ur dirty sins but u wont be heard and ull be very sorry u had to be the monsters u are cuz the ones with greed end up with nothing so go to hell san pasqual alan lawson the party has just begun u half breed no good idiot with shit for brains u are a idiot u know that big cry baby no back bone loser ull be getting ur place ib office soon the electric chair for fraud jack ass retard

Anonymous said...

Stupied mother fucker u need to go back to were u belong what ever tribe u call it and rip those people off and stop giving the altos problems and take that skank diana martinez and her little pussy ass klan who are puopy dogs following behind her with u and let san pasqual be good again diana u are mexican. That tribe u are from is tj down south not indians land sorry u don't get any blood from care taking to a indian family maybe once the altos get there money one of them will hire u as there maod/whore bag and put alittle money in ur pocket since ull soon be broke like u deserve u can be still part of the tribe sort of how u were when cencus came knocking justice will be here soon alan u can stick a big fat shoe up ur ass asshole.

Anonymous said...

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