Monday, March 14, 2011

Civil Rights Violating Tribe, Pechanga, Asks Judge to Throw Out Lawsuit by Temecula

A hearing was set for a judge to consider the Pechanga Tribe’s request to throw out a suit the City of Temecula filed against it.

A judge will consider the matter during a hearing at a federal court in Los Angeles on April 11, according to the city’s attorney.

The city filed the suit in October because the tribe broke a deal to pay for road improvements needed to support the extra traffic caused by the casino’s recent expansion, according to city records.

The tribe agreed in April to pay $10 million toward a project called the “Ultimate Interchange,” a $24.3 million project that will improve access to Temecula Parkway from I-15.

The interchange needs improving mostly because of the crowds the Pechanga Resort and Casino attracts, according to city records.

They also agreed to pay $2 million per year for 21 years to pay for other costs the casino incurs, such as increased police presence and infrastructure upkeep.

When Temecula voters gave the tribe the okay to expand in 2008, paying for the negative impact on the city was part of the deal, said Peter Thorson, the city's attorney, in a brief filed with the court.

“In short, in exchange for the right to expand its gaming facilities considerably, the tribe made several promises to the voters regarding the analysis and mitigation of off-reservation impacts,” Thorson wrote.

The city gave four reasons the judge should deny the tribe’s request to throw out the case.

First, the tribe waived its “sovereign immunity,” which ordinarily would protest it from being sued. Second, the city will be impacted by the casino’s expansion. Third, the court decided earlier this year it has jurisdiction over this matter. Lastly, the reason the tribe gave for throwing out the suit are based on facts the city disputes, according to Thorson’s brief.

The Pechanga Tribe is well known for eliminating 25% of their tribe to capture those per capita funds, which now totals over $1.3 million from EACH of 230 members.  The resulting loss of income and health benefits have put the burden back onto the state of California.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

1.The tribe did not wave anything.

2.Gaming does not wave ,“sovereign immunity,” as we have all seen if the city pulls this off the protest should be in front of their office!

Anonymous said...

The question here would this set a precedent or authority a (legal case) for other victims of the tribe?

(If the City won)?

Anonymous said...

word is WAIVE; not wave

Anonymous said...

Correct WAIVE,you have any thoughts on this?

Anonymous said...

My thoughts ,no way could they court give the city the win. The tribe or tribes cannot be sued.

The court would start a nasty chain reaction (a wave )thru Indian country .

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Anonymous said...

This case will open a new Pandora's box with negative consquences for both parties no matter what the judicial outcome.

Anonymous said...

Did this project" The tribe agreed in April to pay $10 million toward a project called the “Ultimate Interchange" get built?

Or are they going to do it?

Anonymous said...

nobody cares or posts on this site anymore.

Anonymous said...

to nobody cares>>>
it's apparent, u-r reading, this than!!!

Alot of real folks care!!!

take care, noboby cares...!

Anonymous said...

It is Obvious that you care.
You must be that Mexican family posing as Indians. Your day is coming, and then what are you going to do, put up your own web-site.

Anonymous said...

A mexican with all the money!

Anonymous said...

Keep counting it, Money does not last forever. It so funny that you actually admit it. So your family are Mexicans with no Indian blood. Keep talking and braging while we from other Rez's Laugh at you who claim to be from Pechanga. We heard this rumor but it is true. Now tell us what family you claim.
So it is all about the money for you, We call it the white way. Now it makes sense. You can Keep all the money you will never ever be Indian and that is something you will never understand. All of you and your family are Mark Macarro Lovers.

Anonymous said...

Ya it will last forever,because it buys people off.MEXICAN power.

Anonymous said...

That's the same as saying "White Power" Sinnoval has no Power that is what they taught you. One thing for sure is that History always has the tendency to repeat it self through time, Look at California. The Spanish was removed and then the Mexicans were removed. Then look the history the Haudenosaunee people (1779 Sullivan Campaign) So keep saying your Mexicans hiding in Pechanga. We are Still Laughing and it is getting loader in Indian Country.

Anonymous said...

You guys are mexican to,and a possible 1/64 indian.

Anonymous said...

ooooh do not disgrace the native american citizen.....by comparing us to mexicans.
punta!!!
mexicans come from mexico, a whole different country, amigo!
mexican have the stinkest throats & mouth fromall that taco sauce & jalapinos!
They all smell the same, that's why I do not like speaking with the goat smelling smelly race.

White Buffalo said...

Seems like hombre is proud to be Mexican, well good for him personally I am proud that I can trace my family back to the original people of this land. I don’t have a lot of money but that is OK I work hard for what I have and I have earned a well-respected name. I do believe that what comes around and goes around, so dude you better put some of that money you are stealing from my ancestor’s suffering away for a rainy day cause when you are kicked to the curb there will be no one there for you and all of your worthless arrogance. Tell the Potato to sleep lightly

Anonymous said...

Most of California Indians are mixed with Mexican or Spanish, Just look at the Last names. But we have evidence of our lineage tied to our tribe unlike you and it does not matter what percent you have as long as you can trace it back. Look at Pechanga they have about 90% white indians walking around since the casino opened up. About comparing you, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

Tu punta , But we have evidence of our lineage where? El polo loco,Viva Mexico.

Anonymous said...

Now That's the first sound and reasonable thing you stated...Lol. Now let me ask you, are you a Mark Macarro lover?

Anonymous said...

162.5 million has been stolen from rightfull original Pechanga people... The name of Pechanga is tarnished due to greed! Get in line City of Temecula, Descendants of Temecula Aboriginal have to wait too...

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Anonymous said...

162.5 ? wtf el polo loco

Anonymous said...

thats why i hate all wetbacks the come here with their dirty ways, collect welfare drive around in fancy cars, now they claim to be indian, wetbacks go home and those wetback women cranking out baby after baby you make me sick freeloaders

Anonymous said...

hey mexican indian suck my burrito

Anonymous said...

punto white trash,wannabe 1/64 hombre at the most,from the el polo loco tribe.

Anonymous said...

Mark Macarro for re-election.

Anonymous said...

Wow, why are so ignorant Indian People? Why do we continue to argue about money? Why do we continue to use drugs; stay on TANIF; refuse higher education; point fingers and talk shit? Why, because we choose to. That's how we are viewd by popular culture. What happened to the "spirit", that was seen in the AIM movement of the 70's?? It's been raped; it's been burried and the descendants across the nation continue to disgrace. When the Creator comes, and he will...will you be able to look him in the eye, with your head held high? Will your ancestors still stand strong beside you?

Anonymous said...

Aim was cool ,then you had these ass crack club wannabe nothings that quit and ran away.White TACO'S,bring back Aim.

Anonymous said...

Aim is on the side of disenrolling people.Viva mexico

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous- "white taco"


...you must be reffering to something you glimpsed off of Wikipedia. The AIM movement of today is nothing like it was 40 years ago. I'd even argue to say it is 1/64 of what it used to be, but you enrolled "Pechangas", know all about those kind of Fractions ( 1/64, 1/128, ...). Don't ya ; )

Anonymous said...

-- ILLEGAL IMMIGRATES --
BEWARE!!!

ILLEGALS IMMIGRATE INGRATES!

The Policia de la immigracion, will pay any one to turn in any reeking illegal mexicans...$500.00 a piece for each turned in illegal immigrate such as them.

Call immigration on these across the border illegals!
Turn them in, and get paid for these dope runnering low riders.

Anonymous said...

Oh white taco's trash Aim now,HAHA, pigs!

Anonymous said...

WTH This guy talking about, This person must be so Ignorant about history, the Tribe (if he comes from one?)Or any Indian culture. This person must have delusion of grandeur from that pechanga paycheck and blinding his sight or even common sense. This person should be a stand up comedian, because we are all laughing at his stupid logic.

Anonymous said...

This person must have delusion of grandeur from that pechanga paycheck ,you use to get them wake up white taco.

Anonymous said...

Do you know how to at least respond with some intelligence. We are still laughing. Can you answer one question? How long have you lived on the Rez? Because you do not sound like native, you sound like you hate native people but loves your check.

Anonymous said...

I and my family still get our paychecks, because we are from an other Rez. We don't worry about illegal disenrollment like Pechanga. No wonder your Rez is so screwed up, with people like that mexican talking trash about indz.

Anonymous said...

Who is this Whack job?

Anonymous said...

Rez,its you thugs like that,and 99 percent of the pechanga people that are running around up there that are giving Indians a bad name.

White taco people.

Anonymous said...

I have Dept of Interior legal paperwork signed off 6 pages,dated 1928 may 18, Robert Magee and Two children Fred and Inez.

The paperwork states Robert Magee's Grand parents are 1.Anselmo Niesakat full blooded temecula (pechanga)

2.Juana Apish full blooded (pechanga)

Witness and sent off to the Sec of Interior.

Anonymous said...

Not sure what that other poster is saying under the CPP blog?

Anonymous said...

Pechanga No.131 census roll june 30,1928 80 acres.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know who Juana Apish's father is ?

Anonymous said...

Also Indian census lists the name as apish I tried apis and got nothing?

Anonymous said...

U.S.D history

In 1846, two daughters of Pablito Apis, María Antonia and María Jesus, at the tender ages of 13 or 14, each bore a daughter to Isaac Williams, who was 47. Over the next four years María Antonia further bore him two more daughters and a son. The 1850 U.S. Census shows María Antonia and her three oldest children, Victoria, Concepcion, and Feliciano in her father's household at Pala,16 while Francisca, the daughter of María Jesus, was in Isaac Williams's household at Chino Rancho.1

Anonymous said...

There are now numerous citations and connections to Apis, hapish,etc line that are available.

A LOT of Apis trees have appeared lately.

Especially interesting was first Pablo Apis himself.

Guillermo was very interesting also. Check him out.

2nd was Pablito's line

Actually trees;diagrams will appear to show lineal descendancy in Apis/happish line. (many derivations of name.)

smokeybear said...

WHAT THE HELL WAS ALL OF THAT ABOUT? THEY ALL KNOW WHO IS REALLY A PECHANGA INDIAN. AND LINEAGE WILL SHOW ITS TRUE COLORS AND THE NON PECHANGA WILL FINALLY BE GONE.